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Old 09-24-2015, 03:43 PM   #1
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If you google "premium distributor rotors, Moss Motors" you will come across an interesting article on the material that aftermarket Lucas rotors are made from and the problems they can reportedly cause.... I wonder about the material in aftermarket Model A rotors and any difficult-to-trace symptoms that could be attributable to this possible cause. Am I way behind the times on this or having another senior moment?
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Old 09-24-2015, 04:43 PM   #2
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If you google "premium distributor rotors, Moss Motors" you will come across an interesting article on the material that aftermarket Lucas rotors are made from and the problems they can reportedly cause.... I wonder about the material in aftermarket Model A rotors and any difficult-to-trace symptoms that could be attributable to this possible cause. Am I way behind the times on this or having another senior moment?
I think this may be the article see below link?

http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/p...05_872-785.pdf
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Good point, cheep materials CAN cause spark to go THROUGH the ROTOR, to the shaft. If one has been shorting, it usually leaves a rainbow looking discoloration, up inside the rotor hole! Look in it, in the SUNSHINE.
Remember, rotors are CHEEP & be sure to throw away suspected ones, along with old suspected CONDENSORS & old distributor bodies that have been "ARC FARTING" out to #3 connector strap. That old saying, "DON'T THROW NUTTIN' AWAY" doesn't always apply & there's SOME "original" stuff that don't have a CHANCE in HELL of ever being "restored"! YEA, for re-pro parts, in a PINCH!
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The reason the Brits drink warm beer is because they have LUCAS fridges.
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:32 PM   #5
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The reason the Brits drink warm beer is because they have LUCAS fridges.
AND, they don't build TV SETS, 'cause they haven't found a way to make them LEAK OIL.
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I started hearing those Lucas jokes in 1964 when I started working on friends' MG's and big Healeys when I was in high school. British cars needing repairs were in abundance.Their electrical systems were simple, simple to diagnose, simple to repair and had a logic to the color coding that was easy to memorize and almost exactly the same for all British cars. (almost as simple as the Model A's, flat head Hudsons, flat head Mopars and Allis Chalmers that we maintained on the farm and I was too naive or worse to be put off by an MG)) After time in the Air Force, I became a full time British car mechanic, owner and racer. I owned a wide variety of them from the lowly Morris Minors and Spridgets to XK's. The electrical jokes, and the SU carb jokes/mysteries/frustrations/misinformation were probably good for my business, though I didn't exploit them because I loved those cars. People were afraid to work on them, or had attempted to work on them. Those were great days, and all those cars that were ridiculously cheap then are now fetching prices that put them out of my range. A few British car owners have always come off as ostentatious to me, unlike the generally seasoned, yet down-to-earth Model A people.
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LUCAS: Prince of Darkness
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I enjoy this topic but it's off-topic for this forum, now. Anyone that wants to continue, please PM me.
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I started hearing those Lucas jokes in 1964 when I started working on friends' MG's and big Healeys when I was in high school. British cars needing repairs were in abundance.Their electrical systems were simple, simple to diagnose, simple to repair and had a logic to the color coding that was easy to memorize and almost exactly the same for all British cars. (almost as simple as the Model A's, flat head Hudsons, flat head Mopars and Allis Chalmers that we maintained on the farm and I was too naive or worse to be put off by an MG)) After time in the Air Force, I became a full time British car mechanic, owner and racer. I owned a wide variety of them from the lowly Morris Minors and Spridgets to XK's. The electrical jokes, and the SU carb jokes/mysteries/frustrations/misinformation were probably good for my business, though I didn't exploit them because I loved those cars. People were afraid to work on them, or had attempted to work on them. Those were great days, and all those cars that were ridiculously cheap then are now fetching prices that put them out of my range. A few British car owners have always come off as ostentatious to me, unlike the generally seasoned, yet down-to-earth Model A people.
The Lucas system seems to be way too far advanced for some. Since the year dot, they have used a colour coded system so you can tell at a glance whether the wire is hot, fused, hot only when the ignition is on, hot when the ignition is on and fused etc etc. This seems to have been lost on American car manufacturers who still haven't got any system. Even the same manufacturer changes from one model to the next. Primitive!
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On a Lucas schematic the red wire is the one that is glowing.
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I heard that the Lucas company was very secretive with their technology. They always kept you in the dark.
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Under heavy test load, some Lucas batteries would mysteriously switch polarity on one cell. This condition would cause the generator NOT to charge.
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The reason the Brits drink warm beer is because they have LUCAS fridges.
No, you are wrong, it is because they know enough to drink good heavy beer at cellar temperature and that thin American beer has to be nearly frozen to hide the poor taste. Also, Lucas did not make the fridges, they were from Sears Roebuck.

Sorry guys and girls, but as someone who was born and raised in the UK, I could not let this jingoistic rant continue unchallenged.
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Yeah, like Tennants & McEwen's. I am not enough man for Guinness.
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Yeah, like Tennants & McEwen's. I am not enough man for Guinness.
Yeah, and if you order a third pint of Speckled Hen, you better pin a note with your name and address to your shirt so they know where to drop you off!
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With three British projects--'57 MGA, '62 MGB, and '74 TR6, I have often had choice words for Prince of Darkness system.
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