|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
05-27-2020, 04:04 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Seller says it’s an ‘early’ 1930, says they used left over parts as they rolled into manufacture of each year. I am no expert and have an offer on it. My local friend/expert says it’s a 29.
Opinions welcome...don’t want to buy a 29. Thank you |
05-27-2020, 04:35 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lock Haven Pa.
Posts: 252
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Its not a 30 body.Looks like a 29 with some 30 features.Such as 30 headlights and gas bowl.Thats what I'm seeing in the photos.
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
05-27-2020, 04:37 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 934
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Some of the pictures are dark but body wise looks like a 29 with 30 headlights and wheels. They did use 29 pickup bodies for some time on the early 30s. Also we have found that many states did not first title the vehicle by model year, they were titled by the year they were first sold. If the engine is original to the PU then the engine number will give a clue. However, the engine number will only tell you when the engine was made not when the vehicle was assembled.
So what's wrong with a 29? |
05-27-2020, 04:44 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Spruce Pine, NC
Posts: 1,458
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
looks like an early '30.
'29 style cab, hood & radiator; 1930 wheels, bumpers and headlights. gas & radiator cap are 29 style. get ahold of a copy of the judging standards for more guidance. engine # on title will help figure it out too.
__________________
our next Model A is out there in the unknown...... |
05-27-2020, 05:18 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Thanks!
|
05-27-2020, 05:28 PM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 16,422
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
|
05-27-2020, 05:34 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: So Cal
Posts: 8,741
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Early to mid 1930, does it have a quarter turn gas cap?
|
05-27-2020, 05:37 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sebastian, FL
Posts: 479
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Just curious - why don't you want a '29?
|
05-27-2020, 05:46 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,413
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Like others have said the '28/'29 square cab was used through mid '30. They then transitioned to the round cab style that was in place until the Steeltop went into production in September of '31.
The gas cap is the easiest way to ID it as a true '30. -Tim
__________________
No one wants advice - only corroboration. -John Steinbeck |
05-27-2020, 06:25 PM | #10 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Young Harris, GA
Posts: 1,815
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Quote:
This. Get book, read it, understand what's going on. All your questions will be answered.
__________________
Jim Cannon Former MAFCA Technical Director "Have a Model A day!" |
|
05-27-2020, 06:55 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South California
Posts: 6,188
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Mostly ‘29.
|
05-27-2020, 07:02 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kingwood, Texas
Posts: 444
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Intersting Comments! This is a 1930 Pickup! The 28-29 style cabs were used until around June of 1930 then they started using the rounded style cab until the end of production. What makes this a 1930 is the gas tank. If you look close you can see it has the twist style cap that was utilized in 1930-1931. I have this style of pickup in my collection. It always brings out out a lot of conversation. Best of luck on purchasing this pickup. If you have any questions just PM me.
|
05-27-2020, 07:14 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Ok, will do, thanks so much.
|
05-27-2020, 11:51 PM | #14 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Let's set the record stright.
This Closed Cab Pickup is a bonified 1930 Closed Cab Pickup with the ORIGINAL gas tank which has the 1930 style twist-on gas cap (not screw-on) and other approprate items refelecting the early 1930 era of commercial vehicles. This body style went thru May 1930 when the new version of the Closed Cab was released by Ford. It was originally bought new (more than likely at the Thomas "Ford" Dealership in Walla Walla, Wa) and owned by my fathers first cousin who used the pickup up to about 1962-1964 on his dryland wheat farm just 2 miles up river from our farm on the Touchet River, west of Walla Walla, WA. I remember this pickup sitting in his barn for many years after that till my brother bought it about 1977 or there abouts. It was then sold it to a guy in Walla Walla, WA about 1994. After the restoration, it sat in this guys shed for many years after...he hardly drove it. It was then sold to the new owner about 2019. Case closed. Pluck Last edited by Steve Plucker; 05-28-2020 at 09:38 AM. |
06-01-2020, 07:55 PM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Great thank you for the history. I did go ahead and buy this pick up, super excited about it. Do you happen to have any old historical photos of it, since it was in the family? Thank you
|
06-01-2020, 09:27 PM | #16 |
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 21
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Digger,
I would be interested when the engine was stamped for your new truck. I also have an early 30 with a late February engine date and it has 21" wheels and the 1929 bumper. (Where as yours has 19" wheels and a 1930 bumper) Mine does have the 30 steering wheel, headlights and of course the newer version gas tank with the twist off gas cap like yours. The Early 30 trucks are very interesting as I have seen several different variations. (Including one like yours that was on the east side of the country) You will enjoy the number of Model A "experts" that will critique your truck and tell you that it has a 1930, (or wrong gas tank) and point out everything else that is wrong with it. I run 1930 license plates on mine and always hear guys talking about how its a 28 or 29 and that the plates are wrong. Have Fun with it! |
06-01-2020, 10:21 PM | #17 | |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Quote:
If you do not hear from me in awhile...please remind me again. The photo is just of the top of the cab with the couple who owned it...I can not remember if it shows the gas cap or not. Email me at [email protected] Pluck |
|
06-01-2020, 10:28 PM | #18 | |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Quote:
If you do not hear from me in awhile...please remind me again. The photo is just of the top of the cab with the couple who owned it...I can not remember if it shows the gas cap or not. It is interesting but there were three Model A pickups in that area. The first was a 1928-1929 Open Cab just two miles down river from our house; a 1928-1929 Closed Cab at our house; and the 1930 Closed Cab up the river from our house. The photo of the pickup in front of the mural was taken on September 20, 2019 in Lewiston, Idaho during my Smooth Rider Tour. To view the home and the barn for which it called home for all those years...Google 12650 Touchet North Road, Touchet, WA. Email me at [email protected] Pluck Last edited by Steve Plucker; 06-01-2020 at 11:31 PM. |
|
06-01-2020, 10:37 PM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Thanks everyone
|
06-02-2020, 12:24 AM | #20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Glide, Oregon
Posts: 1,336
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
It is awesome Steve can provide you with so much history on your truck.
__________________
Ruth "Sometimes you really DO need to read the whole thread" |
06-02-2020, 07:47 AM | #21 |
Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 63
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Bob Williams in Carleton Va. had a original 1930 AA Dump Truck that he bought from the owner in Poquoson Va. Bob seen this truck when he was a child in Poquoson in the 30s and 40s. It had a 1930 truck body, 1930 type gas cap, 1930 hood and grill with 1929 fenders. This truck, from what we had seen was as built by ford in 1930 and had never been altered. Ford never wasted a scrap, look at the history of Kingsford charcoal.
|
06-02-2020, 12:01 PM | #22 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA
Posts: 2,832
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Before you can tell someone that it is or isn't an Early 1930 you have to know that they did exist and how to spot them. The cab change didn't take place until June 1930. So all of the early 1930's used the 1929 style sheet metal yet had all the 1930 chassis improvements. Right off hand I can see it has 1930 steering wheel. Check to see that it also has the '30 steering.The side view mirror is mounted mid way on the door post. Later made Early '30's had a twist lock gas cap instead of a screw on. The used 1930 style headlamps that are painted black. Everything I see in your pictures show me that this is an Early 1930.
__________________
1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go? |
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
06-04-2020, 07:48 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
The engine and title VIN is an April number.
|
06-06-2020, 10:23 PM | #24 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
So it arrived last night and today after work was able to wash it, (photo attached) and take on first trip downtown. It is really great. My first question is, this large, vinyl covered top, is that stock to pickups? Not a big fan, and would like to put on a metal one that I have seen on 1930 cars. Will one of those bolt right up? All comments and opinions welcome.
Also did I see a post where it is suggested to not use an air filter? There is one on here, truck runs like a top as is... Thank you Digger |
06-06-2020, 11:02 PM | #25 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 2,332
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Quote:
Air filter opinions are are all over the place. With out expressing my personal opinion on if they are OK/not OK, run the truck and inspect the plugs - if the plugs are not fouling then I would leave the air filter on. However if the air filter is just a paper filter and hangs below the carb, you might consider switching to an oiled element K and N filter. Reason for not running a pure paper filter is if the float bowl over fills gas can end up in the paper filter and is a fire hazard. If you want more info, do a search, there has been tons of discussion about air filters. |
|
06-06-2020, 11:23 PM | #26 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
|
06-07-2020, 05:09 AM | #27 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
The last time I saw it I do not remember that type of air cleaner on the pickup.
And yes, the 1928-May 1930 Open Cabs had the vinyl tops just as you have. Just remember, if you happen to sell it down the line, and the top was chastized and replaced with a metal top...God Forbid...good luck. It is your pickup now...do what you want but if it were me...I would not touch it unless you have plans to hot rod it...ouch! Pluck |
06-07-2020, 08:04 AM | #28 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 2,332
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Can not be 100 % sure, but looks like a larger K and N. Might want to take it off and see if it is labeled/marked.
If me would purchase the cleaning oil kit and clean/re-oil it. Supposedly the K and N has enough volume capacity that it does not restrict air flow into the carb. Restricting the airflow will cause the carb to run rich and you also may loose a small amount of power if running a restrictive air cleaner. That is why above I mentioned checking your plugs. https://www.knfilters.com/cleaning Some also air balance the carb when running an air filter. Only way to tell is to take the carb off split the carb, and inspect. Supposedly air balancing is not required if running a large volume intake non/r-restrictive air filter. Here is one string on air balancing. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ng#post1887482 |
06-07-2020, 09:48 AM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pacific Grove, CA
Posts: 1,210
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Thanks so much for your replies
|
06-07-2020, 06:56 PM | #30 |
Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Southern Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 86
|
Re: So is this pick up a 29 or a 30 ?
Man that's a sharp looking truck.
__________________
Southern Missouri '30 Tudor sedan, Original '33 5-Widow Coupe, Henry Steel, Merc Flathead, 50's Hotrod style. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|