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Old 09-06-2013, 03:06 PM   #1
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didn't want to hijack Betsy's thread....

pulled the head on my engine and 3rd cylinder will not let atf through, so tapping it with a 2x4 every other day

my question is-pulled the valve cover off and water rolled out-6 of the 8 valves are stuck down in the block-what methods do you folks use to get them up and moving? a friend suggested PB Blaster on top and underneath, but am thinking someone here has an ingenious method or 2 for freeing them....

thx ahead of time.
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Old 09-06-2013, 05:59 PM   #2
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Remove the manifolds & spray Liquid Wrench on upper & lower ends of valve stems.Don't use WD 40 as it doesn't work very well.You may have to respray it a few times over the next few days.Take an old screwdriver & grind it down thinner on the end & try lightly tapping it between the lifter & valve.If a valve moves slightly,then tap it back down with an angled rod thru the plug hole.If to tight,you may have to pull the head to get a straight hit on the valve.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:42 PM   #3
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the best penetrating oil you can use is one you make your self, a 50-50 mix of auto trans oil and acetone, works where others fail, spray on valve stems and lifters and let set for a day
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:16 PM   #4
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Claude heated the valve stems through the ports & cooled them with WD-40, several times to help free them up. Bill W.
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:20 PM   #5
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Bill, you ole reprobate, you going to the auburn swap meet the 15th of this month?
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:48 PM   #6
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Thank you for all of the good advice. the head is off, so easy to get to everything.
am vacuuming out tons of rust in the ports.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:54 PM   #7
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Bill, you ole reprobate, you going to the auburn swap meet the 15th of this month?
There's an Auburn swap on the 15th? How is is for A's?
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:42 PM   #8
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altho its put on by the chevy club there are lots of ford a and t stufff there, mostly stuff from guys garage thar they have left over or didnt use, its up in the parking lot at the fair ground, usually a good meet
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:52 PM   #9
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Kroil is the best penetrating oil I have ever tried. Kroil and patience works every time.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:45 PM   #10
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Thanks Glenn, was out there playing today- the patience part is tough

was able to get 4 of the 8 lifters turning, by putting a very small pair of vice grips on them and swiveling them back and forth with PB Blaster
was going to buy the acetone, but almost 20. bucks a gallon, thought I'ld start with the PB
the valves are still pretty locked up and this could take awhile-cylinder #3 is still not running clear of the atf and gas I mixed 50/50
hoping when that cylinder clears, may get a little movement from the crank....
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:51 AM   #11
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7 valves are up-thx to the ground down screw driver and KB
1 to go and 2 lifters still frozen along with cylinder #3
going to set a floor jack under the crank handle with a little pressure overnight....

thx for all of the advise-much appreciated.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:42 PM   #12
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There's an Auburn swap on the 15th? How is is for A's?
Auburn in this case refures to a city, not an automobile.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:59 PM   #13
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LOL chuck your right, a car swap meet in auburn calif, a lot of used parts for a lot of different cas
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