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Old 05-29-2017, 06:37 PM   #21
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Hot Rod Reverend, Thanks for posting this Link to the video of this 1960 Ford Starliner
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Old 05-30-2017, 02:35 AM   #22
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While it's true that Ford didn't put matching serial numbers on major drivetrain parts like some other manufacturers... there are specific casting numbers on many of those parts, along with date codes. These numbers and codes do allow you to determine the year the part was (first) used and in most/some cases, the date the part was made.
With the date code from the ID plate of the car, if the casting and date codes of the misc cast parts fall within a period of 30 to 60 days before the car was built, and the part was originally available on that model, those parts are generally considered to be 'matching'.

Also... most serial number/data plates have code letters & numbers for the 'as built' options in the drivetrain in addition to exterior & interior colors and maybe some other options.
If the car and it's driveline parts, options, etc. appear as listed on it's data plate the car can be said to be 'numbers matching'.

Here are several links to help determine what may be 'matching'. Most apply to the late 50's cars (found them in relation to the car I'm working on) but if you need info about newer/other cars just do an internet search for it.

http://www.fordification.com/tech/pa...s_overview.htm

http://www.fordification.com/tech/datecodes.htm

http://www.y-block.info/castings.html

http://ford-y-block.com/technical.htm

https://thecvaonline.com/howtos/DataPlateDecoder.pdf

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...INdecode-1.htm

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...49-59partA.htm

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...49-59partB.htm

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I do somewhat understand Ford's numbering system. "Numbers matching" was once a term only used by the GM people, where it means something completely different. On GM you could tell if major components were the one's a car left the factory with. On a Ford you can only tell if the part number and date code are consistent with ones built within a time frame the car would have been manufactured in. So a diligent restorer of a Ford can install a different part and still have it be consistent with the numbering system. On a GM, that's not possible. So even though the term has crept out of the GM camp and over to ours, it isn't the same thing. To the best of my understanding.
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Most of the ones I recall in NY were serious rust buckets, one a neighbor had was literally rusted up to the door handles.
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... "Numbers matching" was once a term only used by the GM people, where it means something completely different. On GM you could tell if major components were the one's a car left the factory with. On a Ford you can only tell if the part number and date code are consistent with ones built within a time frame the car would have been manufactured in. So a diligent restorer of a Ford can install a different part and still have it be consistent with the numbering system. On a GM, that's not possible. So even though the term has crept out of the GM camp and over to ours, it isn't the same thing. ...
Yes, you are correct.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:16 PM   #25
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How do you like this 1960 Ford Sunliner with the Licence Plates "Slam Liner". These are smooth looking cars. Its just a pity that not many have survived.
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With the exception of the Starliner and maybe the convertible, I always thought they were ugly
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Old 06-01-2017, 05:09 PM   #27
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Spotted this 1960 Ford Fairlane 500 Sedan at a car show back in 2003, but haven't seen it since. It must have been sold interstate. This car was factory RHD and must have been imported from New Zealand. The Hubcaps are off a 57 Ford. One thing that is different regarding the styling of these 1960 Fords is that the Hood is sooo wide, while the Trunk Lid is very narrow?
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:01 AM   #28
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Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. IMHO they are best forgotten. Other than the two-door hardtop, I thought the 1960 models were the ugliest ever produced by Ford. My dad was a dealer in those days, and after three years of quality issues with the '57-'59s, he said he almost cried when they unveiled the '60 models. "How in the world will we ever sell that ugly thing?"
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Old 06-02-2017, 04:59 PM   #29
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This unloved 60 Sunliner was spotted in LA a few years back. Wonder if it has survived?
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:26 PM   #30
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After seeing the 60's on this thread , I might just have to get me one of them .
Thanks guys - another old Ford is just what I need !!
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I remember coming home from school one day and a friend of my fathers who worked at Ford stopped by with his new 1960 Starliner lease car. It was Lavender with a white interior !!!!!! And I thought it was bad Ass !
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There were a number of 60 Fords, including a few Starliners, at the All Ford Show in Carlisle
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This 1960 Ford Sunliner was converted to Right Hand Drive many years ago before the Law changed allowing Left Hand Drive cars over 30 years old to be registered here. Unfortunately, the owner sold it overseas at a big profit. Another 1960 Ford that has disappeared.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:15 PM   #34
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Love them.... and it was one of the worst selling year Ford ever had.
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If y'all thought the '59 was ugly, the '60 took the cake. The next year produced one of the best looking Fords of all time, the '61.
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When I was a kid, and the '59 and '60 Fords were new, I really didn't care for them. But now I love them all. Same goes for the '59 and '61 Chrysler products and GM products.

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Old 06-14-2017, 08:13 PM   #37
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Here is another 1960 Ford Sunliner that has made the trip "down under". Notice that it has many Accessories including extra Tail Light Lens plus horizontal Bumper Guards in the rear bumper, also End Tips on the front bumper and more. This is one nice 60 Ford.
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How rare are these Accessories seen on the above 1960 Ford Sunliner. They include extra Bumper tips and guards front and rear, plus an extra Taillights Lens added to the Bumper, duplicating the top Lens. I don't recall seeing these on other 1960 Fords?
What do readers think?
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I don't remember the bumper guards with the rubber inserts, but I do remember seeing the 2nd tail light lens attached to the bumper on a couple of cars way back then. Don't know if it was a factory accessory, or an aftermarket thing. Pretty sure the 2nd taillight wasn't functional.

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I don't remember the bumper guards with the rubber inserts, but I do remember seeing the 2nd tail light lens attached to the bumper on a couple of cars way back then. Don't know if it was a factory accessory, or an aftermarket thing. Pretty sure the 2nd taillight wasn't functional.

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No , lower taillight was not functional . It was more like a reflector .
I do like them , and the bumper guards !
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