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Buford · 08-05-2018, 04:08 PM

I think since you changed the thermostat at the same time you had the radiator cleaned you might do yourself a favor and run the engine without the stat to see if that might solve the overheating....it sounds to me like the stat might not be opening causing all that extra pressure in the system?

Kahuna · 08-05-2018, 06:49 PM

I like Buford's thought.
Would be my first try
Jim

dmsfrr · 08-05-2018, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by poolplayer1

. . . i went ahead and replaced the water pump,thermostat housing,and the thermostat. . .

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Originally Posted by Buford

....it sounds to me like the stat might not be opening causing all that extra pressure in the system?

Is there a chance the thermostat got installed backwards?
The side with the spring points toward the engine.

poolplayer1 · 08-07-2018, 10:52 AM

Thanks Guys for all your help.Yes,the bottom radiator hose is on the passenger side,since its a 68 model.I did make sure that the thermostat spring was facing toward the engine. I am still waiting for the Rad.to come back.The guy is the only Rad.guy here in town and with all this heat (115),he stays really busy.When I get it back.if it still building up pressure,I will remove the thermostat and than try again.It is a new thermos.but like anything,it could be bad.

dmsfrr · 08-07-2018, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by poolplayer1

. . . It is a new thermos.but like anything,it could be bad.

While you're waiting for the radiator, you could put it in a pot of boiling water to see if it opens.
(as in the photo above)

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poolplayer1 · 08-07-2018, 02:24 PM

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That's an idea,since I can't do anything else til I get the radiator back.Thank you.
Mando

dmsfrr · 08-07-2018, 04:10 PM

Mando,
Since it's probably got anti-freeze on it a really good rinsing off before it goes in the pot will be a good idea too. Along w/ soap & water in the pot afterward.
Having car parts in the kitchen requires caution, to avoid offending the head chef.

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poolplayer1 · 08-09-2018, 09:23 PM

I sure hope I get the RAd.back by tomorrow.I hate to be a pain in the s but I am going to call the guy in the morning and tell him that I think he has had enough time.
If I do get it tomorrow,I will put it back in and try and see if it works good this time.
Thanks dmsfrr.
Mando

poolplayer1 · 08-13-2018, 12:34 PM

Well, darn it. The Radiator guy just called me and said that the core had too many tubes that were plugged up and that it was leaking and therefore,it was beyond repair and that I should look for another radiator to replace it.I told him how come he didn't tell me that the first time he worked on it. Anyway,does anyone here have a radiator for a 55 ford that I can buy from? Mine is a station wagon but I don't think there is any difference between a full size car and a SW. Let me know if you do.
In the mean time I will go on the net and search for one.
If you guys know or can think of a company that may have one,please let me know.
Thanks for all your help.
Mando

dmsfrr · 08-13-2018, 12:54 PM

But it was good enough to charge you full price the first time he fixed it? How does that work?
Did he give you back the radiator?
I'll bet he didn't give you even a partial a refund either

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scicala · 08-13-2018, 02:10 PM

Sounds like the radiator shop screwed you on that one. It's obvious they didn't even check it correctly the first time, but I'll bet they put a nice paint job on it. I would go dance on their counter top and demand some money back. Not to mention all of the time you spent going there and back and wasted time/labor.

Sal

poolplayer1 · 08-13-2018, 02:17 PM

I am going this afternoon to get my radiator back from him. I am going to see if I can get at least some money back since the repair that he supposedly did the first time did not work. I need to get it back so that I can take some measurements of the core and an overall height and width of the rad. By the way,do you think that aluminum radiators will work fine with this vehicle just in case I can't find the oem. I saw one on ebay but the top hose is on the passenger side and mine is on the driver side.I don't think that's a problem cause I can always get a different top hose.
Thanks for your comments.
Mando

scicala · 08-13-2018, 02:28 PM

It seems to me a REAL radiator shop should be able to re-core your original radiator.
If not, I've heard some of the aluminum ones work well. I have no experience myself with them.

Sal

KULTULZ · 08-14-2018, 02:30 AM

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That radiator shop is very unprofessional.

The word I wanted but could not remember is incompetent.

CASE STUDY-

How a MORON can attempt to EDIT a post and blow it out of the water instead...

poolplayer1 · 08-14-2018, 11:58 AM

Hello friends. I got my radiator back yesterday after he said it was beyond repair.After arguing with the guy for awhile,I was able to get 80.00 refund.I told him he should of known that the core was beyond repair when he did a pressure test and at that point he should of called me to give me the bad news.That would of been the end of the story,no labor wasted and no paint wasted.Anyway,I found a copper/brass downflow radiator online.It looks and measures just like the one I have here.
The difference is the top hose is on the left side of the tank and mine is on the right side but I'll just get a flexible rad.hose that I can shape to reach the inlet tube.
If not,I'll get 2 hoses and couple them together to reach the inlet.
Thanks to all for your good comments and suggestions.
Mando

KULTULZ · 08-14-2018, 12:27 PM

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The difference is the top hose is on the left side of the tank and mine is on the right side but I'll just get a flexible rad.hose that I can shape to reach the inlet tube.

If you could find a competent radiator shop nearby, they could move that upper tank inlet.

poolplayer1 · 08-14-2018, 02:14 PM

Yes,you are correct.That shop is not taking care of his business in a professional way.I told him he had lost my business because of the way he treated me.Nobody can afford to give money away. Anyway,I went ahead and ordered the new radiator that was for sale online. It will be 4 or 5 days before I get it but that's ok cause I already wasted more than 3 weeks waiting for this Rad.guy to work ( Or maybe not) on my rad.
Funny that you mentioned the top inlet being moved to the other side cause I had just talked to another shop about 30 miles away and he said he could move the inlet to the side that I needed it to be. I hope this guy is more decent than the local one.
I believe that just because a repair shop treated me unfairly,I am going to think that all shops are the same. One bad apple does not mean that all apples are bad.Thats my opinion.
Mando

KULTULZ · 08-14-2018, 07:21 PM

I forget...

You said your present WP inlet (bottom hose) is on the left side so as to allow the coolant to flow across the radiator?

poolplayer1 · 08-15-2018, 10:04 AM

I guess it depends on where you are at ( in front of the engine or sitting in the drivers side) to determine which is your left and which is your right. The water pump inlet in this 302 is on the right (from drivers position).The outlet of the new radiator is on the right too so that will match ok. The top radiator hose inlet on the new rad.is on the right and on my old rad.,its on the left. When I get the new radiator I will figure out how to make the top hose fit. I guess when mentioning left and right on a vehicle its best to say passenger or driver side.That makes things a lot easier to understand. Have a good day guys.Thanks
Mando

scicala · 08-15-2018, 12:51 PM

"I guess when mentioning left and right on a vehicle its best to say passenger or driver side.That makes things a lot easier to understand. Have a good day guys. Thanks"

Passenger's or driver's side works unless it's someone from Australia, New Zealand or the UK where the drivers side is the right side.
The rule of thumb is everything is looked at as if sitting in the front seat as far as left or right side.

Sal

08-05-2018, 04:08 PM	#81
Buford Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Luz, NM. 88337 Posts: 1,050	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. I think since you changed the thermostat at the same time you had the radiator cleaned you might do yourself a favor and run the engine without the stat to see if that might solve the overheating....it sounds to me like the stat might not be opening causing all that extra pressure in the system? __________________ Support the effort to arm bears! Preparation H will not stop asteroids!

08-05-2018, 06:49 PM	#82
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. I like Buford's thought. Would be my first try Jim

08-07-2018, 10:52 AM	#84
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. Thanks Guys for all your help.Yes,the bottom radiator hose is on the passenger side,since its a 68 model.I did make sure that the thermostat spring was facing toward the engine. I am still waiting for the Rad.to come back.The guy is the only Rad.guy here in town and with all this heat (115),he stays really busy.When I get it back.if it still building up pressure,I will remove the thermostat and than try again.It is a new thermos.but like anything,it could be bad.

08-07-2018, 02:24 PM	#86
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) That's an idea,since I can't do anything else til I get the radiator back.Thank you. Mando

08-07-2018, 04:10 PM	#87
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. Mando, Since it's probably got anti-freeze on it a really good rinsing off before it goes in the pot will be a good idea too. Along w/ soap & water in the pot afterward. Having car parts in the kitchen requires caution, to avoid offending the head chef. . Last edited by dmsfrr; 08-09-2018 at 10:08 PM.

08-09-2018, 09:23 PM	#88
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. I sure hope I get the RAd.back by tomorrow.I hate to be a pain in the s but I am going to call the guy in the morning and tell him that I think he has had enough time. If I do get it tomorrow,I will put it back in and try and see if it works good this time. Thanks dmsfrr. Mando

08-13-2018, 12:34 PM	#89
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. Well, darn it. The Radiator guy just called me and said that the core had too many tubes that were plugged up and that it was leaking and therefore,it was beyond repair and that I should look for another radiator to replace it.I told him how come he didn't tell me that the first time he worked on it. Anyway,does anyone here have a radiator for a 55 ford that I can buy from? Mine is a station wagon but I don't think there is any difference between a full size car and a SW. Let me know if you do. In the mean time I will go on the net and search for one. If you guys know or can think of a company that may have one,please let me know. Thanks for all your help. Mando

08-13-2018, 12:54 PM	#90
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. But it was good enough to charge you full price the first time he fixed it? How does that work? Did he give you back the radiator? I'll bet he didn't give you even a partial a refund either . Last edited by dmsfrr; 08-13-2018 at 02:59 PM.

08-13-2018, 02:10 PM	#91
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,703	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. Sounds like the radiator shop screwed you on that one. It's obvious they didn't even check it correctly the first time, but I'll bet they put a nice paint job on it. I would go dance on their counter top and demand some money back. Not to mention all of the time you spent going there and back and wasted time/labor. Sal

08-13-2018, 02:17 PM	#92
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. I am going this afternoon to get my radiator back from him. I am going to see if I can get at least some money back since the repair that he supposedly did the first time did not work. I need to get it back so that I can take some measurements of the core and an overall height and width of the rad. By the way,do you think that aluminum radiators will work fine with this vehicle just in case I can't find the oem. I saw one on ebay but the top hose is on the passenger side and mine is on the driver side.I don't think that's a problem cause I can always get a different top hose. Thanks for your comments. Mando

08-13-2018, 02:28 PM	#93
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,703	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. It seems to me a REAL radiator shop should be able to re-core your original radiator. If not, I've heard some of the aluminum ones work well. I have no experience myself with them. Sal

08-14-2018, 11:58 AM	#95
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. Hello friends. I got my radiator back yesterday after he said it was beyond repair.After arguing with the guy for awhile,I was able to get 80.00 refund.I told him he should of known that the core was beyond repair when he did a pressure test and at that point he should of called me to give me the bad news.That would of been the end of the story,no labor wasted and no paint wasted.Anyway,I found a copper/brass downflow radiator online.It looks and measures just like the one I have here. The difference is the top hose is on the left side of the tank and mine is on the right side but I'll just get a flexible rad.hose that I can shape to reach the inlet tube. If not,I'll get 2 hoses and couple them together to reach the inlet. Thanks to all for your good comments and suggestions. Mando

08-14-2018, 02:14 PM	#97
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. Yes,you are correct.That shop is not taking care of his business in a professional way.I told him he had lost my business because of the way he treated me.Nobody can afford to give money away. Anyway,I went ahead and ordered the new radiator that was for sale online. It will be 4 or 5 days before I get it but that's ok cause I already wasted more than 3 weeks waiting for this Rad.guy to work ( Or maybe not) on my rad. Funny that you mentioned the top inlet being moved to the other side cause I had just talked to another shop about 30 miles away and he said he could move the inlet to the side that I needed it to be. I hope this guy is more decent than the local one. I believe that just because a repair shop treated me unfairly,I am going to think that all shops are the same. One bad apple does not mean that all apples are bad.Thats my opinion. Mando

08-14-2018, 07:21 PM	#98
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,471	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. I forget... You said your present WP inlet (bottom hose) is on the left side so as to allow the coolant to flow across the radiator? __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

08-15-2018, 10:04 AM	#99
poolplayer1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 399	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. I guess it depends on where you are at ( in front of the engine or sitting in the drivers side) to determine which is your left and which is your right. The water pump inlet in this 302 is on the right (from drivers position).The outlet of the new radiator is on the right too so that will match ok. The top radiator hose inlet on the new rad.is on the right and on my old rad.,its on the left. When I get the new radiator I will figure out how to make the top hose fit. I guess when mentioning left and right on a vehicle its best to say passenger or driver side.That makes things a lot easier to understand. Have a good day guys.Thanks Mando

08-15-2018, 12:51 PM	#100
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,703	Re: 1955 ford station wagon with a V8 302 Engine. "I guess when mentioning left and right on a vehicle its best to say passenger or driver side.That makes things a lot easier to understand. Have a good day guys. Thanks" Passenger's or driver's side works unless it's someone from Australia, New Zealand or the UK where the drivers side is the right side. The rule of thumb is everything is looked at as if sitting in the front seat as far as left or right side. Sal