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Old 10-15-2018, 09:01 PM   #41
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Default Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic?

Just by looking at the distributor diaphragm, it looks like the '57 type (smaller dia. diaphragm).
Also the intake is a '57 or later factory 2 barrel intake with a very early Holley 2300 two barrel carb (with flat front bowl). That style bowl was used in '57 and early '58 only. It's either a truck carb or someone put a manual choke in it. Cars came with auto chokes.


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Old 10-15-2018, 09:36 PM   #42
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Thanks for the update. My '55 Fairlane owners manual describes using the manual choke for starting the 6 cyl and 162 hp V8. However, the manual makes an exception for cars equipped with the 182 hp V8...no manual choke needed, choke is automatic.
My Vic has the factory installed/labeled manual choke knob on the dash.

All in all, guess my 272 engine is the standard 162 hp version.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:44 PM   #43
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. . . All in all, guess my 272 engine is the standard 162 hp version.
Without other evidence I wouldn't automatically make that assumption.
An oem / nos manual choke could well have been added by a previous owner, and much more easily than upgrading to the newer intake manifold, carb and distributor.
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:30 AM   #44
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My '55 Fairlane owners manual describes using the manual choke for starting the 6 cyl and 162 hp V8. However, the manual makes an exception for cars equipped with the 182 hp V8...no manual choke needed, choke is automatic.
My Vic has the factory installed/labeled manual choke knob on the dash.

All in all, guess my 272 engine is the standard 162 hp version.
How was the car's engine described by the seller? The present carb is a HOLLEY (early) 2V 2300 as Sal has pointed out. The 55/56 4V ACL will fit this later style 2V carb. That can make the engine appear as a factory 4V at first glance. The IGN has also been upgraded to the 57/ dual advance distributor style.

Look @ the included Ill's-






The 1st character will define the engine the car (or at least the present PATENT PLATE) came through with.


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This may interest you if considering to return to OEM if engine originally was a 2V-


http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic139198.aspx
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Default Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic?

In other words, if your VIN plate has a "U" as the first digit, it was built as a 272 two barrel 162 hp. If an "M" it was the four barrel 182 HP 272. If a "P" it was the very very rare (in a pass car) Police Interceptor 292 198 HP engine.


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Sal...yes, the VIN does have a 'U". Thank you for all your valuable insight and tips!
I still have alot to learn concerning my latest toy
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:41 PM   #47
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That's really a nice looking car. Looks like you will be busy replacing some of the rusted out parts.I had the same problem with my 55 ford wagon.Had to replace all the floor boards and also the rocker panels.Also replaced one of the quarter panels.
Took quite awhile but got it all done. Now waiting for the rain to stop so that I can road test it and see if I have any more problems.
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Sorry,posted to the wrong post. This was meant for the person that had the problem with some rust on his car.
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Old 10-18-2018, 03:29 PM   #49
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In other words, if your VIN plate has a "U" as the first digit, it was built as a 272 two barrel 162 hp. If an "M" it was the four barrel 182 HP 272. If a "P" it was the very very rare (in a pass car) Police Interceptor 292 198 HP engine.

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... hmm ...

Guess I should have pointed that out ...

THANX! for covering my butt Sal ...
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Sorry,posted to the wrong post. This was meant for the person that had the problem with some rust on his car.

Maybe chalk your stick?
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Here is what I found guys and failed to share-

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Ford-M...-/113069313297

He (seller) also has a '56 listed and you will see the difference(s).

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1956-Ford-Me...lY8V:rk:8:pf:0



1956 4V SHOWN - VANE MISSING









3RD EDIT - Let's See If I can Do This Without Screwing Up ...

3rd photo shows the '56 vane (I guess it would be called) seemingly attached to the housing snorkel -




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I am quoting myself here to add info to the ACL thread -


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lve-elbow.html


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Default Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic?

KULTULZ, are you sure the top picture is a '55 ? it has a later style '56 air cleaner, '56/'57 type valve cover decals and more of a flat top radiator top tank which started sometime in '56.


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KULTULZ, are you sure the top picture is a '55 ? it has a later style '56 air cleaner, '56/'57 type valve cover decals and more of a flat top radiator top tank which started sometime in '56.

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Well, now that you point it out, no ...

You are right. The 55 had the dimple underneath for the HTR CTL VLV.

I will correct my reference. I was trying to show an ACL missing the vane.

THANX! for catching that ...
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The top one is of my 56 taken by the seller just before I bought it. The car has a build date of 10/21/55 indicated by the patent plate.
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The '55 Vicky arrived today and I have alot to learn. I did pull the ACL, expecting to see a factory teapot carb - nope!

It is a newer Holley of some kind, so here are 2 pics for your evaluation.

What is it? 2 or 4 bbl?
It appears the restorer/builder took the top end (intake - carb - distributor - ACL) from a 57 292 2Vengine. The carb is the early H2300 with internal float setting.

It is a thoughtful/nice touch for drive-ability but I think he should have advertised the fuel system being as modified and not OEM. I wonder if he kept the '56 setup (if you wanted to make the car bone stock for either resale value or bragging rights)? That style 2V will only accept the later 57/ 2V/4V ACL.

This is how the engine should appear-





Regardless, the damn thing is beautiful and if I were to see it in person, somebody better have a box of facial tissue ...
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The top one is of my 56 taken by the seller just before I bought it.



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What I do guys is when I come across something interesting is to save it for study/future reference. No harm intended.
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Thanks Kultulz. My '55 came from an estate sale so I do not have prior details.
I just switched the 8 volt electricals back to stock 6 volt for the time being...until I am ready to go 12 volt setup. 6 volts works OK for cranking here in CA.
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That explains it.


Regardless, the fuel/IGN upgrade was within taste (IMO) It looks very well thought out.
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