WTB Pre-bent exhaust for 56 Country Sedan

[My Old Blue]

Good insight here. Thank you. Been looking at Waldrons for the V8 Dual set up, all pre-bent. Decent price I feel, although still doing my homework. I see Waldrons offers mild tone muffler above the stock sound. Daves555Sedan I've also read what you have advised and I figure a phone call to Waldrons would be advisable to hear their point of view as well. I'll check my local shops too, and see who can make the right bends. My 312 wagon had a single exhaust installed sometime in its' history and working to figure the hangers I need as the drivers side exhaust and hangers are missing.

[zoegrant]

Some years ago Waldons did a complete exhaust system for my 56 t-bird and it fit great..

Y-Blockheads info on the tail pipe on a wagon coming out in back of the tire and not straight back like the sedan is something I would venture to say that an exhaust shop probably would not know....

[Ford Freak]

Originally Posted by daves55sedan

if you do get pre-bent exhaust pipes, don't be surprised if some of the bends are not quite right and pipe lengths too long or too short, forcing you to either send back what you ordered or modify the junk they sent. I got pre-bent exhaust pipes and pre-bent tailpipes but they all needed to be modified. Might as well have just sent the car to one of those muffler shops in the first place.

x2 !!!!!

[dmsfrr]

Originally Posted by My Old Blue

..... I have a 56 Country Sedan's with a 312. ..... Looking for insight as I will need to look at options to replace entire exhaust system once my 57' exhaust manifolds arrive. .....

Originally Posted by My Old Blue

..... My 312 wagon had a single exhaust installed sometime in its' history ...
..... working to figure the hangers I need as the drivers side exhaust and hangers are missing.

My Old Blue, is your question about a Sedan or Station Wagon? (I'm confused)

The car may not have originally had dual exhaust???
Like the example at this link...
http://www.oldcarbrochures.org/index...ners-Manual-28

Here's a link to the '56 Owners Manual the above page/link is from...
http://www.oldcarbrochures.org/index..._Manual?page=1

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[My Old Blue]

Hi dmsfrr, I have 312 56 Country Sedan Station Wagon. Attached a photo of what I'm working with. I decided to locate and a found a set of 57' exhaust manifolds to upgrade and need to replace the scabbed in crossover single exhaust that included 272 manifolds down to the muffler and pipes. Great links and fortunately for me that same owners manual was still in the glove box. Apologies for confusion on my part.

I browsed several catalogs showing clamps and hangers but I have yet to see anything definitive to say I need this many clamps and this type of strap or that type of hanger. Still searching forums and catalogs for clues.

[KULTULZ]

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Originally Posted by My Old Blue

I have 312 56 Country Sedan Station Wagon.

I decided to locate and a found a set of 57' exhaust manifolds to upgrade and need to replace the scabbed in crossover single exhaust that included 272 manifolds down to the muffler and pipes.

I browsed several catalogs showing clamps and hangers but I have yet to see anything definitive to say I need this many clamps and this type of strap or that type of hanger. Still searching forums and catalogs for clues.

Are you going to duals?

Below is a general Ill showing exhaust system hardware. The outlet pipe(s) must face outwards for safety and comply with state vehicle law.

[dmsfrr]

Originally Posted by My Old Blue

.... Apologies for confusion on my part.

Brain fog over here has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by dmsfrr

The car may not have originally had dual exhaust???

Seeing the heat shield on the driver's side certainly answered that question.

Almost missed the above post by KULTULZ while I was typing this,
that illustration sure looks helpful.
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[My Old Blue]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

Are you going to duals?

Below is a general Ill showing exhaust system hardware. The outlet pipe(s) must face outwards for safety and comply with state vehicle law.

This is a great start! Thank you. Yes duals.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by My Old Blue

Yes duals.

This Is In My Opinion Only...

1) You are going to have not much choice other than going to a custom fabricator.

2) You are planning to use 57 exhaust manifolds on a 56 vehicle so the inlet pipes are going to have to be custom bent to fit the 56 intermediate pipes.

3) You will need a 57 heat riser valve.

4) A custom fabrication shop has a pipe bender that uses a computer program to bend to OEM specs (mandrel bend - 2 1/2".

5) Talk to the guy as an H-Pipe will give you more power (balances exhaust pulses).

6) The first Ill I showed will give you an idea of hangers. WALKER used to make very close copied FOMOCO hardware. Talk to him about factory appearing hangers.

7) Turnouts on the tailpipes.

8) Low restriction mufflers if you want to hear it...

[Daves55Sedan]

Originally Posted by My Old Blue

I browsed several catalogs showing clamps and hangers but I have yet to see anything definitive to say I need this many clamps and this type of strap or that type of hanger. Still searching forums and catalogs for clues.

I think the Concours parts catalog has an illustration of every exhaust component and as far as I can recall, they sell all the brackets and hangars.

[Daves55Sedan]

If the car originally had single exhaust, you can re-use the existing bracket/hangar on the inside frame rail on the passenger side and the rear tailpipe hangar on the passenger side. Just add the mirror image bracket for the right side frame rail and a duplicate hangar of the rear one you have for the new driver side tailpipe.
The holes in the frame are factory drilled. It may be necessary to tap the two holes in the frame rail for the intermediate bracket but if you use the hex-head lag-bolts like they did at the factory, you might not need to tap the holes.

[My Old Blue]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

This Is In My Opinion Only...

1) You are going to have not much choice other than going to a custom fabricator.

2) You are planning to use 57 exhaust manifolds on a 56 vehicle so the inlet pipes are going to have to be custom bent to fit the 56 intermediate pipes.

3) You will need a 57 heat riser valve.

4) A custom fabrication shop has a pipe bender that uses a computer program to bend to OEM specs (mandrel bend - 2 1/2".

5) Talk to the guy as an H-Pipe will give you more power (balances exhaust pulses).

6) The first Ill I showed will give you an idea of hangers. WALKER used to make very close copied FOMOCO hardware. Talk to him about factory appearing hangers.

7) Turnouts on the tailpipes.

8) Low restriction mufflers if you want to hear it...

KULTULZ, Went back and re-read your post along with Daves55Sedan ( apologies for not acknowledging the responses sooner) as I'm getting closer now to having the dual exhaust fabricated at my local exhaust shop. Gathering my shopping list for Concours as I found has the best prices for the most part. 57 manifolds are in and I was wondering what size are the pipes to be? 2" or 1 3/4"? I question due to looking at Concours site that showed clamps in 1 3/4 for rear tailpipe bracket. Attempting to use hangers and clamps close to stock as possible.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by My Old Blue

KULTULZ, Went back and re-read your post along with Daves55Sedan ( apologies for not acknowledging the responses sooner) as I'm getting closer now to having the dual exhaust fabricated at my local exhaust shop.

Gathering my shopping list for Concours as I found has the best prices for the most part. 57 manifolds are in and I was wondering what size are the pipes to be? 2" or 1 3/4"? I question due to looking at Concours site that showed clamps in 1 3/4 for rear tailpipe bracket. Attempting to use hangers and clamps close to stock as possible.

Your car is a driver and not HI-PO, correct?

Usually (and this is IMO and open to debate) for a mild street car, 2 1/2" inlet (size restricted by what flange size the manifold will accept - cast iron exhaust manifolds) and outlet is nice. If the tailpipes are within restrictive areas, 2" is good (after muffler only) as as that point, the exh gases/heat has cooled/contracted somewhat and poses less restriction (after battling muffler baffles).

I would find a QUALITY shop in your area and talk with them before actually purchasing anything. They may have a source for dedicated hangars also.

What type of exhaust sound do you want? Muffler choice comes into play also.

I always loved the WALKER low restriction muffler as it gave the car the sound of a late sixties muscle car (CJ) ...

[Ole Don]

Several years back, I had Waldron build a complete system for my 55 sedan. It was 2 1/4 with mandrel bends all the way, with their house brand mufflers. I did not clamp it, I welded on clips so it bolted together. That way if it ever needed to come off, it could. After it was all on, I removed it, wiped it down with acetone, and painted it with high temp flat black. The larger diameter was hard to fit, but it did fit. I think Waldron did a wonderful job at a decent price. The mufflers had a nice rumble, quiet while cruising, but when I jumped on it, they sounded off really nice.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by Ole Don

Several years back, I had Waldron build a complete system for my 55 sedan. It was 2 1/4 with mandrel bends all the way...

I wonder if they have a pattern for a inlet(s) pipe for the 55 272 duals with 57 exhaust manifolds?

Make it a lot easier. Just bolt on stock from the inlet back.

[Gene F]

so did we hear the final result of the original requestor?

[paul2748]

You might check with the parts vendors and see if they have listings for clamps and hangers for the left side if you haven't already. I thought the 292 and 312 engines came with dual exhaust from the factory???



I bought a dual exhaust system from Waldren's for my 64 Fairlane. It fit really good.