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Old 05-08-2014, 08:18 AM   #21
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Two more pictures.
The hinged motor bracket is original, it appears Canedy-Otto bragged about this feature. It may also be a 1930s model.

What I don't know is what kind of fitting is this on the front? I've seen pictures of similar machines online and they had a standard grease fitting there.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:30 AM   #22
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Unanimous ! Free is a very good price!
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Free is a GREAT price. Hoist it over your shoulder and pack it up the stairs. When I worked for Tenneco we had several of those. They seem to never wear out and are easy to repair if ever needed. I replaced the spindle bearings on one and it was as good as new again. Rod
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it would be to your advantage to make proper guard over those belt pulleys... just a big precaution to not accidently get a finger caught in there or a piece of clothing, gloves etc ... it will not be forgiving....
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it would be to your advantage to make proper guard over those belt pulleys... just a big precaution to not accidently get a finger caught in there or a piece of clothing, gloves etc ... it will not be forgiving....
Hi John, thanks for responding.
This had crossed my mind but in the end would it be any less forgiving than the chuck or tool in the chuck?

Or is it just best to follow a "the less exposed fast moving parts the better" rule.
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Two more pictures.
The hinged motor bracket is original, it appears Canedy-Otto bragged about this feature. It may also be a 1930s model.

What I don't know is what kind of fitting is this on the front? I've seen pictures of similar machines online and they had a standard grease fitting there.
You just lift the little cap on the fitting and add oil.

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Old 05-09-2014, 12:14 AM   #27
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I have the identical setup for the belt and I would find a belt guard a nuisanse. I can't imagine how you would ever get any clothing or body part in the belt. The power would be off, then just lift the motor and shift the belt to change speed.
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:44 PM   #28
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Finally got it home and down the basement.
From what I understand it's a 1930s Canedy-Otto #16. It's probably a little on the new side to be "A" era, but close enough I think.

I need to modify the motor to raise it up some as I don't like the belt alignment. Also, whoever did it used the bottom half of the motor to mount the newer switch so the motor is actually only held on by two bolts currently. If I drill new upper and lower holes, or oval out the top ones vertically I should be able to achieve this easily. I just need to figure out new mounting for the switch but I'm not too worried, I'm sure I'll come up with something.

Press runs good, my only concern is there is a tiny bit of slop in the quill if you extend it almost all of the way down and try to move it side to side.

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Old 05-11-2014, 07:50 PM   #29
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Two videos I took of the press running tonight after I remounted the motor.

http://youtu.be/G6VMf_ncxCk

http://youtu.be/nrtkE2kwxiI

The noise heard in the second video appears to be the spline chattering in the front pulley and isn't as noticeable in person. It does change as you lower and raise the quill though. The machine actually runs incredibly smooth. Seems like it could run all day and night without a care in the world.

I did notice if I put the belt tension too tight the motor bracket chatters as well, so I assumed that simply meant too tight. It does look like the hinged bracket originally had some kind of bolt in the bottom or something that is long gone. Perhaps a knob to lock it in place when not changing belts? The belt had been sitting in one position for I have no idea how long, but it had quite a bit of memory when I tried to spin the machine by hand. Not sure if that's working out automatically or not. The belt could be 40-50 yrs old for all I know. No visible cracks.


Question for others that own this type of press. Should I put any kind of lube on the spline where it goes through the pulley?
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:13 PM   #30
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those came with a sheet metal belt guard that im guessing got tossed aside the first time it got taken off. You can oil the quill and the turning parts but not too much as it atracts dirt. yes the chatter could be from the belt being too tight
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those came with a sheet metal belt guard that im guessing got tossed aside the first time it got taken off. You can oil the quill and the turning parts but not too much as it atracts dirt. yes the chatter could be from the belt being too tight

Hi bikejunk, thanks for responding!

Not a single advertisement I've seen for Canedy-Otto or Walker-Turner which is very similar showed any kind of belt guard.
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