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Old 09-10-2021, 10:49 AM   #21
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I bought a really nice original 40 deluxe opera coupe this summer for 30k and was happy to get it.
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Old 09-10-2021, 01:10 PM   #22
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I bought a really nice original 40 deluxe opera coupe this summer for 30k and was happy to get it.
I wasn't aware of Ford offering an opera coupe in 1940.
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Old 09-10-2021, 03:07 PM   #23
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VW vans have started their decline as well since that market demographic is starting to age out. 10 years ago, these VW shit boxes were selling for Woodie prices. $100-150K was not uncommon.

They've cooled off some, but not as much as Ford Woodies. I really believe that when Martha Stewart had an episode of her show featuring her tailgating with a Woodie, the prices spiked because all of those wealthy housewives wanted to be like Martha.

Well, that lasted like most fashion trends.
This is quite wrong and out of touch in regards to VW's. The market for panel busses, 13 window busses, and the more plain versions being converted into the deluxe 21 and 23 window busses has declined. These are the quick flips you see in the auctions. Your quote of $100-150k is for these conversions, certain legitimate VW's are easily fetching $500k for meticulously restored versions.

Prices for most air-cooled VW's, including legitimate deluxe busses are increasing. Most sell privately, so you never see the prices or flashy pictures.

Your term of "shit boxes" is out of touch and not necessary to this discussion or your point.
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Old 09-10-2021, 03:36 PM   #24
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This is quite wrong and out of touch in regards to VW's. The market for panel busses, 13 window busses, and the more plain versions being converted into the deluxe 21 and 23 window busses has declined. These are the quick flips you see in the auctions. Your quote of $100-150k is for these conversions, certain legitimate VW's are easily fetching $500k for meticulously restored versions.

Prices for most air-cooled VW's, including legitimate deluxe busses are increasing. Most sell privately, so you never see the prices or flashy pictures.

Your term of "shit boxes" is out of touch and not necessary to this discussion or your point.
Point well taken about the term and I deserved to be called out. I'm a VW guy previously (before the prices got out of hand) and I use the term loosely. By the use of that term I meant dangerously slow (in stock form) and drive and handle like a over weighted lunch box.

Regarding real 21-23 buses, it appears I misspoke and I appreciate your correction. I have been loosely tracking the converted buses and I don't have access to the private sales nor am I in the market for a real bus.

Thank you for the correction. It was deserved.
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Point well taken about the term and I deserved to be called out. I'm a VW guy previously (before the prices got out of hand) and I use the term loosely. By the use of that term I meant dangerously slow (in stock form) and drive and handle like a over weighted lunch box.

Regarding real 21-23 buses, it appears I misspoke and I appreciate your correction. I have been loosely tracking the converted buses and I don't have access to the private sales nor am I in the market for a real bus.

Thank you for the correction. It was deserved.
No worries. I'm a VW guy too, and have little use for a bus, regardless of the price. I do think the bus prices are way out of hand, even for the basic versions. Those are in the $10k-40k range depending on the condition. Air cooled bugs are getting into the $5k and higher territory now.
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So who's buying these VWs? These were big when I was in my twenties. It would seem that guys my age would be buying these things for nostalgia purposes? Not me. I have zero interest in them, but I am not typical.
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So who's buying these VWs? These were big when I was in my twenties. It would seem that guys my age would be buying these things for nostalgia purposes? Not me. I have zero interest in them, but I am not typical.
The replica bus buyers are just the typical auction fame seekers as far as the real VW’s are concerned it the typical big time VW collectors. Jerry Seinfeld is one, Fluffy Guy another comedian, VW dealership owners, and the others that like to remain anonymous. Some of the VW’s are coachbuilt, the same coachbuilders that built cars for Mercedes, Porsche, etc.

Romestch, Hebmuller, Danuer and Strauss, Karmann, etc.
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I wasn't aware of Ford offering an opera coupe in 1940.
They didn’t. But you know exactly which coupe I’m talking about and so do 99.9% of 40 ford owners. I have your book, so I know what Ford called the different coupes. Consider me admonished by the lord of the 40 Ford. Now feel free to tell everyone what they really call the 40 with the little fold down seats.
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They didn’t. But you know exactly which coupe I’m talking about and so do 99.9% of 40 ford owners. I have your book, so I know what Ford called the different coupes. Consider me admonished by the lord of the 40 Ford. Now feel free to tell everyone what they really call the 40 with the little fold down seats.
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Here's the coupe I just bought.
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Here's the coupe I just bought.
Appears to be a nice ol' Ford. Congrats!
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Appears to be a nice ol' Ford. Congrats!
Thanks Kube, pretty happy with my business coupe……
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Old 09-11-2021, 11:13 AM   #33
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Thanks Kube, pretty happy with my business coupe……
I'm restoring one of those at this time. Kind of cool. Still, I have to wonder how big (tiny) the woman photographed in the rear seat area was that Ford used for their advertisements back then.
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Old 09-12-2021, 09:06 AM   #34
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You guys make me afraid to buy a 40 Ford coupe (I own no 40 Fords) - for fear that I might call it the wrong name!

Just kidding yah . . . a but too much coffee is flowing through my veins.
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You guys make me afraid to buy a 40 Ford coupe (I own no 40 Fords) - for fear that I might call it the wrong name!

Just kidding yah . . . a but too much coffee is flowing through my veins.
Too much coffee is like too much money. Simply no such thing.
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Past a certain age, there is such a thing as too much coffee (as it is a diuretic).
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My cardiologist says there is. I'm limited to one cup a day (sometimes, I cheat).
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Dave and Dennis... you two are hilarious.
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