Wiring help needed

[hb32]

Originally Posted by Tinker

With very little effort you could use the floor starter and solenoid. If you choose too. It's just a ground to starter connection. Floor starter and the bash button is just a on/off switch. No more no less. Stomps were just a straight battery 6 to starter. Later dash button just allowed a smaller wire to activate the solenoid to trigger full volts/amps to starter.


Could do the same with the stomp switch vs the button. Depending on your harness, and rerouting a single starter wire.

That is my plan but with a pull cable.

[Tinker]

Hmmm, I'm not sure what you mean? why would you need a pull cable? IDK?


Once the solenoid is installed you can use any switch, including the floor switch... button, toggle... etc?


Pull cable off the floor switch???


Any switch will do.

[Tinker]

you can still buy tractor 6 volt solenoids from most supply depots. they have a coil 6 volt 4th pole "full start" also. The button start solenoid is only good if you want to start under hood, which only works if the ignition is on in the car.


https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Trac...THTKDSRN4DV4Z1

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by Tinker

you can still buy tractor 6 volt solenoids from most supply depots. they have a coil 6 volt 4th pole "full start" also. The button start solenoid is only good if you want to start under hood, which only works if the ignition is on in the car.


https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Trac...THTKDSRN4DV4Z1

He is wanting to keep the floor start setup similar to what is currently in the car, and it is a pull cable type of arrangement. The button on the firewall mounted solenoids are also useful to "bump" the engine during troubleshooting, not just to remotely start the car.

I think something like this is what he is looking for.

[hb32]

Originally Posted by JSeery

He is wanting to keep the floor start setup similar to what is currently in the car, and it is a pull cable type of arrangement. The button on the firewall mounted solenoids are also useful to "bump" the engine during troubleshooting, not just to remotely start the car.

I think something like this is what he is looking for.

Thank you very much for posting an easy to follow pic This is exactly what I want as I am utilizing the original cable start that the 4 cylinder had.
I have the switch and solenoid, Borg Warner p/n S53 which is equivalent to the early Ford with the bump switch on the bottom. Now need to research cable size for both ground and leads to solenoid and starter. Thanks to all that contributed once again.

[JSeery]

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Remember that 6v requires heavier cables than 12v!

[hb32]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Remember that 6v requires heavier cables than 12v!

Thanks and have some 0 gauge welding cable on order.

[hb32]

Originally Posted by JSeery

He is wanting to keep the floor start setup similar to what is currently in the car, and it is a pull cable type of arrangement. The button on the firewall mounted solenoids are also useful to "bump" the engine during troubleshooting, not just to remotely start the car.

I think something like this is what he is looking for.

Have it wired as per drawing and no joy. Starter turns off the bump switch, am I missing something obvious? Ground for switch is good as I have my signal lights off the same point.

[JSeery]

Start by checking the starter solenoid, jumper the center terminal to ground. That should turn the starter over, if it doesn't then there is some issue with the solenoid itself. If that works ok, then check the wiring to the pull solenoid, and then the pull solenoid itself. The pull solenoid should show a path to ground when the cable is pulled. Lot of possible for issues here. Is the pull cable moving the solenoid plunger far enough to engage the contacts? This whole set up is just providing a ground path to the starter solenoid, just start at the starter solenoid and work your way back.

[hb32]

Thanks once again for the excellent tech talk !!

[Bob C]

Also make sure you have the cable from the battery on the correct side of the solenoid.


Bob

[hb32]

Originally Posted by Bob C

Also make sure you have the cable from the battery on the correct side of the solenoid.


Bob

I think I do Bob and read several posts on that. Looking at the solenoid, bump button down, per comes in on right terminal and to starter on left

[DavidG]

Since both the fours and V8 are, strictly speaking, flatheads, you might not have misled some of the responders into thinking that you have a four (implied in your initial question and original in all but a handful of late '32 pickups) if you had initially provided the information about your V8 transplant as you finally did in #18.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by hb32

I think I do Bob and read several posts on that. Looking at the solenoid, bump button down, per comes in on right terminal and to starter on left

Have you tried a ground jumper to the center terminal? That will tell you if the starter solenoid is connected up correctly and if it is working.

[hb32]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Since both the fours and V8 are, strictly speaking, flatheads, you might not have misled some of the responders into thinking that you have a four (implied in your initial question and original in all but a handful of late '32 pickups) if you had initially provided the information about your V8 transplant as you finally did in #18.

Sorry and my mistake. Otherwise getting some valuable insight here