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Wareagle · 07-24-2015, 06:20 PM

Been working on my 30 Tudor for the past two months. Got the body done and started putting it back together. Today, I decided to drain the old oil out and put in some 10w-30. Well low and behold, the first thing out of the drain hole was water. Ouch!! Not a lot but it was there. Where should I start looking? I got an old head with the car and it had a crack in it. Not sure if it even came off of this motor.

Mitch//pa · 07-24-2015, 06:33 PM

did you happen to remove any headnuts with coolant in the system? maybe possibly the dist clamp nut

Rex_A_Lott · 07-24-2015, 06:49 PM

If it was only a tiny bit it could have been some condensation that settled to the bottom. Was it water or antifreeze?

Wareagle · 07-24-2015, 08:12 PM

Haven't touched the engine at all. When I got the car it had been sitting for 15 yrs or so in a garage. Ran it around the block and loaded it on the trailer. That is the only time I've run it. It wasn't much water, maybe a spoonful or so.

Henry1953 · 07-24-2015, 08:17 PM

Probably just condensation if it wasn't antifreeze. If it is coolant It may just need a new head gasket.

Wareagle · 07-24-2015, 08:30 PM

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I'm planning on installing a 5.5 head before I put it on the street, hopefully next year. Is there anything else I should be looking at in the meantime?

40 Deluxe · 07-25-2015, 12:16 AM

With all the humidity in Ohio, I'd go along with condensation over the years. If you have access to a borescope take a peek through the drain plug opening.

Brentwood Bob · 07-25-2015, 04:11 PM

Likely that the seller had a few look at the car before you running around the same block. Bob

Wareagle · 07-25-2015, 07:56 PM

Actually Bob, the guy was working on this car when he passed away. His daughter left it sit as he left it for over 15 yrs before having to clean out the shop. That's when I picked it up. All work that he had completed was good. He finished a 1929 coupe before starting on this one. The frame and all running gear had been finished and he had started on the body. He installed a new wood kit and had new patch panels in place. Body was done in epoxy primer. With all the work that he completed, I doubt he wood try and scam some one as he was intent on keeping both the 29 coupe and this car.

Brentwood Bob · 07-25-2015, 09:41 PM

Well, that might rule out condensation from a cold engine as the source of the water.
Maybe never had a chance to seat the head gasket.
Bob

1946 · 07-25-2015, 10:48 PM

I had the same problem and found it during an oil change. My first thoughts were a loose head, so that was tightened down, and a check of the oil done a week later after a long engine run--same result, oil in the water, or should it be the other way, and because of an intermitent knock I pulled the motor. After checking the head for cracks, the next thing was the cylinder block, none visible, but there was a crack in #3 cylinder bore half way down and about 3/4 the diameter of the cylinder. It is/was bad enough to be able to feel it by running your thumb nail over it, so a rescue sleve and re-bore is in order. Re the bearings the caps need lapping and re shim all three mains and big-ends.

07-24-2015, 06:20 PM	#1
Wareagle Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 63	Water in the oil!!! Been working on my 30 Tudor for the past two months. Got the body done and started putting it back together. Today, I decided to drain the old oil out and put in some 10w-30. Well low and behold, the first thing out of the drain hole was water. Ouch!! Not a lot but it was there. Where should I start looking? I got an old head with the car and it had a crack in it. Not sure if it even came off of this motor. __________________ Jim P. central Ohio 1930 Tudor Sedan 15 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren and loving it!!

07-24-2015, 06:33 PM	#2
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Water in the oil!!! did you happen to remove any headnuts with coolant in the system? maybe possibly the dist clamp nut

07-24-2015, 08:12 PM	#4
Wareagle Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 63	Re: Water in the oil!!! Haven't touched the engine at all. When I got the car it had been sitting for 15 yrs or so in a garage. Ran it around the block and loaded it on the trailer. That is the only time I've run it. It wasn't much water, maybe a spoonful or so. __________________ Jim P. central Ohio 1930 Tudor Sedan 15 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren and loving it!!

07-24-2015, 08:17 PM	#5
Henry1953 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Laurel, MS Posts: 126	Re: Water in the oil!!! Probably just condensation if it wasn't antifreeze. If it is coolant It may just need a new head gasket.

07-24-2015, 08:30 PM	#6
Wareagle Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 63	Re: Water in the oil!!! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I'm planning on installing a 5.5 head before I put it on the street, hopefully next year. Is there anything else I should be looking at in the meantime? __________________ Jim P. central Ohio 1930 Tudor Sedan 15 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren and loving it!!

07-24-2015, 06:49 PM	#3
Rex_A_Lott Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Upstate South Carolina Posts: 794	Re: Water in the oil!!! If it was only a tiny bit it could have been some condensation that settled to the bottom. Was it water or antifreeze?

07-25-2015, 12:16 AM	#7
40 Deluxe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: now Kuna, Idaho Posts: 3,779	Re: Water in the oil!!! With all the humidity in Ohio, I'd go along with condensation over the years. If you have access to a borescope take a peek through the drain plug opening.

07-25-2015, 04:11 PM	#8
Brentwood Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: brentwood, ca Posts: 4,241	Re: Water in the oil!!! Likely that the seller had a few look at the car before you running around the same block. Bob

07-25-2015, 07:56 PM	#9
Wareagle Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 63	Re: Water in the oil!!! Actually Bob, the guy was working on this car when he passed away. His daughter left it sit as he left it for over 15 yrs before having to clean out the shop. That's when I picked it up. All work that he had completed was good. He finished a 1929 coupe before starting on this one. The frame and all running gear had been finished and he had started on the body. He installed a new wood kit and had new patch panels in place. Body was done in epoxy primer. With all the work that he completed, I doubt he wood try and scam some one as he was intent on keeping both the 29 coupe and this car. __________________ Jim P. central Ohio 1930 Tudor Sedan 15 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren and loving it!!

07-25-2015, 09:41 PM	#10
Brentwood Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: brentwood, ca Posts: 4,241	Re: Water in the oil!!! Well, that might rule out condensation from a cold engine as the source of the water. Maybe never had a chance to seat the head gasket. Bob

07-25-2015, 10:48 PM	#11
1946 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tasmania Australia Posts: 81	Re: Water in the oil!!! I had the same problem and found it during an oil change. My first thoughts were a loose head, so that was tightened down, and a check of the oil done a week later after a long engine run--same result, oil in the water, or should it be the other way, and because of an intermitent knock I pulled the motor. After checking the head for cracks, the next thing was the cylinder block, none visible, but there was a crack in #3 cylinder bore half way down and about 3/4 the diameter of the cylinder. It is/was bad enough to be able to feel it by running your thumb nail over it, so a rescue sleve and re-bore is in order. Re the bearings the caps need lapping and re shim all three mains and big-ends. __________________ Tassie Devil