The Ford Barn

blueblood · 11-11-2012, 04:46 PM

can someone tell me what is not right.what goes on the bracket on the bulkhead and the top rear of the intake?

Kurt in NJ · 11-11-2012, 04:53 PM

The fuel pump goes on the back of the intake, the brackets on the firewall were added---possibly for xtra horns(my 36 had xtra horns there), the generator and regulator on the firewall are from later cars--possibly 39 delux

ken ct · 11-11-2012, 05:04 PM

Man thats a rough one.Everything Kurt said and probebly even more.ken ct.

charles in east texas · 11-11-2012, 05:06 PM

Is that the correct carburator ? Plate under the carburator? Columbia?
Charles

JM 35 Sedan · 11-11-2012, 05:10 PM

Just a few to start the ball rolling....
1. Generator and regulator are later model 2 brush. Should be a 3 brush generator with cut out on top of generator.
2. Carburetor is later model. Should be either Stromberg 48 or 97.
3. Air cleaner is missing.
4. Breather should be the funnel shaped design.
5. Fuel pump and fp to carb gas line are missing.
6. Rubber grommet missing where wiring is coming through firewall.
7. Spark plug wire to plug connectors are not '35.
8. Water pumps would be '36 or aftermarket replacements based on grease fittings coming out of pumps on a rearward angle.
9. Coil on top of distributor is not '35. Not sure what it is...never seen one like it.

I am wondering if your car has/had a Columbia rear based on the vacuum plate between the carb and the intake manifold, and the part on the firewall behind the fuel pump stand?

charles in east texas · 11-11-2012, 05:50 PM

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Spider web added. Gas heater perhaps. Charles

ford38v8 · 11-11-2012, 05:59 PM

coil
radiator hoses
hose clamps
plug wire ends
carburetor
gas fitting on carb for heater
vacuum plate for gas heater
heater holes in firewall
unknown accessory behind breather
missing firewall grommet
missing air cleaner
missing fuel pump
missing pump/carburetor line
fuel flex line
brackets on firewall
generator
voltage regulator
missing coil wire
unauthorized rust and cobwebs

Mike in AZ · 11-11-2012, 06:01 PM

what are your plans for the car??.....restoration??....or getting it running to enjoy as is.....or as close to as is as possible??....get some pics of the rear end for us...might have a columbia as guessed....regulator on firewall goes with generator and wasn't used on '35.....good luck....Mike

Mike in AZ · 11-11-2012, 06:04 PM

never mind about maybe columbia....can see gas heater in center of firewall behind intake......heck, look for columbia anyway...lol.....Mike

ford38v8 · 11-11-2012, 06:11 PM

no columbia

Lawson Cox · 11-11-2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in AZ

never mind about maybe columbia....can see gas heater in center of firewall behind intake......heck, look for columbia anyway...lol.....Mike

Yeah, looks like it has a Southwind gas heater from the picture of the firewall and the line going to the adapter under the carb. (I'm in the throws of installing a Southwind on my 35 PU so I caught that right away.)

jerry grayson · 11-11-2012, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Just a few to start the ball rolling....
1. Generator and regulator are later model 2 brush. Should be a 3 brush generator with cut out on top of generator.
2. Carburetor is later model. Should be either Stromberg 48 or 97.
3. Air cleaner is missing.
4. Breather should be the funnel shaped design.
5. Fuel pump and fp to carb gas line are missing.
6. Rubber grommet missing where wiring is coming through firewall.
7. Spark plug wire to plug connectors are not '35.
8. Water pumps would be '36 or aftermarket replacements based on grease fittings coming out of pumps on a rearward angle.
9. Coil on top of distributor is not '35. Not sure what it is...never seen one like it.

I am wondering if your car has/had a Columbia rear based on the vacuum plate between the carb and the intake manifold, and the part on the firewall behind the fuel pump stand?

The coil is aftermarket

JM 35 Sedan · 11-11-2012, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry grayson

The coil is aftermarket

Jerry, Do you have any details or specifications on this aftermarket coil? Who was the manufacturer?

ken ct · 11-12-2012, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Jerry, Do you have any details or specifications on this aftermarket coil? Who was the manufacturer?

John,i have or usta have 1 of those coils,i'll look tomorrow for it and see if any maker on it. ken ct.

i might have deep sixed it knowing it wasn't right.

Don Rogers · 11-12-2012, 07:57 AM

Blueblood, Don't throw away those spark plug resistors!!!!! They were indeed correct for a radio equiped 35/36 Ford. They are fairly hard to find these days. When these resistors were used the knurled nut was removed from the spark plug and replaced by the more standard spark plug terminal that was supplied with the resistors.

JM 35 Sedan · 11-12-2012, 10:10 AM

Some pics of a 'mostly' stock '35 engine.....I'm sure the 'X purts' can find things that are not correct with this one as well...and so can I....but, most is correct.

A couple more pictures

ken ct · 11-12-2012, 11:02 AM

John,not trying to be criticle but are those the correct plug wire ends,thought ends were supposed to be brass wire hooks. also never saw the type of grease fittings on a ford before.[i know what you have there].I have the optional pressure release grease fittings if you want them?They were an option for 35-36 from factory as far as i know. Other wize looks good. ken ct.

1952henry · 11-12-2012, 09:15 PM

Should be a 97 carb if car was made after April. I'm guessing the carb on the car could use some rehab!

jerry grayson · 11-12-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Jerry, Do you have any details or specifications on this aftermarket coil? Who was the manufacturer?

John, I think that I have one of these somewhere, but as I remember, there is no name on it.

JM 35 Sedan · 11-13-2012, 07:55 AM

Ken, plug wire ends are incorrect as are those grease cups/fittings on the water pumps and the pumps are/were incorrect ('36) as well. This was how the engine in my fordor sedan looked when I bought it in '07. Things have changed a bit since then.

Jerry, I was just curious about that coil since I have never seen one like that before.

1937pickup · 11-13-2012, 09:08 AM

If it was original it should be covered in oil and grease, LOL. Looks great to me.

JM 35 Sedan · 11-13-2012, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1937pickup

If it was original it should be covered in oil and grease, LOL. Looks great to me.

LOL on the grease. I believe the engine in my pics never had the heads removed before I got it. The car had 41k original miles. It was very well cared for car. I had never seen an original example in that nice of condition. Even my wife liked it and was glad I bought it

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ken ct · 11-13-2012, 01:12 PM

Personally i think you got a long way to go getting that running. Dont get discouraged keep at it. This comming from me [long story] lol ken ct.

11-11-2012, 04:53 PM	#2
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? The fuel pump goes on the back of the intake, the brackets on the firewall were added---possibly for xtra horns(my 36 had xtra horns there), the generator and regulator on the firewall are from later cars--possibly 39 delux

11-11-2012, 05:04 PM	#3
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? Man thats a rough one.Everything Kurt said and probebly even more.ken ct.

11-11-2012, 05:06 PM	#4
charles in east texas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Winnsboro, Texas Posts: 463	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? Is that the correct carburator ? Plate under the carburator? Columbia? Charles

11-11-2012, 05:10 PM	#5
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? Just a few to start the ball rolling.... 1. Generator and regulator are later model 2 brush. Should be a 3 brush generator with cut out on top of generator. 2. Carburetor is later model. Should be either Stromberg 48 or 97. 3. Air cleaner is missing. 4. Breather should be the funnel shaped design. 5. Fuel pump and fp to carb gas line are missing. 6. Rubber grommet missing where wiring is coming through firewall. 7. Spark plug wire to plug connectors are not '35. 8. Water pumps would be '36 or aftermarket replacements based on grease fittings coming out of pumps on a rearward angle. 9. Coil on top of distributor is not '35. Not sure what it is...never seen one like it. I am wondering if your car has/had a Columbia rear based on the vacuum plate between the carb and the intake manifold, and the part on the firewall behind the fuel pump stand? __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 11-11-2012 at 06:23 PM.

11-11-2012, 05:50 PM	#6
charles in east texas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Winnsboro, Texas Posts: 463	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Spider web added. Gas heater perhaps. Charles

11-11-2012, 05:59 PM	#7
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,645	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? coil radiator hoses hose clamps plug wire ends carburetor gas fitting on carb for heater vacuum plate for gas heater heater holes in firewall unknown accessory behind breather missing firewall grommet missing air cleaner missing fuel pump missing pump/carburetor line fuel flex line brackets on firewall generator voltage regulator missing coil wire unauthorized rust and cobwebs __________________ Alan

11-11-2012, 06:01 PM	#8
Mike in AZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Waddell, AZ Posts: 2,540	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? what are your plans for the car??.....restoration??....or getting it running to enjoy as is.....or as close to as is as possible??....get some pics of the rear end for us...might have a columbia as guessed....regulator on firewall goes with generator and wasn't used on '35.....good luck....Mike

11-11-2012, 06:04 PM	#9
Mike in AZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Waddell, AZ Posts: 2,540	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? never mind about maybe columbia....can see gas heater in center of firewall behind intake......heck, look for columbia anyway...lol.....Mike

11-11-2012, 06:11 PM	#10
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,645	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? no columbia __________________ Alan

11-12-2012, 11:02 AM	#17
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? John,not trying to be criticle but are those the correct plug wire ends,thought ends were supposed to be brass wire hooks. also never saw the type of grease fittings on a ford before.[i know what you have there].I have the optional pressure release grease fittings if you want them?They were an option for 35-36 from factory as far as i know. Other wize looks good. ken ct.

11-12-2012, 09:15 PM	#18
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,619	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? Should be a 97 carb if car was made after April. I'm guessing the carb on the car could use some rehab! __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

11-13-2012, 07:55 AM	#20
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? Ken, plug wire ends are incorrect as are those grease cups/fittings on the water pumps and the pumps are/were incorrect ('36) as well. This was how the engine in my fordor sedan looked when I bought it in '07. Things have changed a bit since then. Jerry, I was just curious about that coil since I have never seen one like that before. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

11-13-2012, 09:08 AM	#21
1937pickup Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 586	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? If it was original it should be covered in oil and grease, LOL. Looks great to me.

11-13-2012, 01:12 PM	#23
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: 35 coupe engine pics,whats missing? Personally i think you got a long way to go getting that running. Dont get discouraged keep at it. This comming from me [long story] lol ken ct.