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Old 02-13-2019, 04:53 PM   #21
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Pardon my ignorance but what would a bonded title do? Not sure what it means.
I do have a clear title in my name, problem is that where it should be an "S" someone typed a "5" and where there should be a "3" someone typed an "E". I brought this to the clerks attention, after looking into it, she said the issuing state screwed up and that's whom had to fix it, in this case Maine. I called ME and they do not have records for older cars, told me there was nothing they could do.
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:29 AM   #22
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This is not ment to be a recommendation.

Call Maryland Auto Title Company, 877-845-2368.

Explain your situation. See what they have to say.

They service most of the country.

Also go on line and Google Maryland DMV Bonded Title. I think you might be very surprised.

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Thanks Bill, I will look into this. My local legislature is a car person, I thought about going that route, my wifes boss also is good friends with highly respected government official whom is also a car guy, I figured between these 2 I may be able to get somewhere. Only problem I forsee is when I try to sell it.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:19 PM   #23
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Thanks Bill, I will look into this. My local legislature is a car person, I thought about going that route, my wifes boss also is good friends with highly respected government official whom is also a car guy, I figured between these 2 I may be able to get somewhere. Only problem I forsee is when I try to sell it.
Well you will probably be able to sell before you hear back with anything you might want to hear form ANY Government Official !!.. Think About it..
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:16 PM   #24
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Thanks guys for all your replies.
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:31 PM   #25
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google Vermont title loophole. get in contact with the guy you got it from and have him write you a bill of sale for the number on the frame. this guy explains it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_sg3oALtGc


i havent needed to do this but it sounds easy enough.


and legal as long as you are not lying about it.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:25 AM   #26
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leave all alone and go enjoy your car.

life is too short.............
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:44 PM   #27
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I agree that life is to short and we should all enjoy our great cars. BUT!

At some point we become a seller or buyer. If you don’t have the correct paperwork, your buyer could walk and you have a no sale. Or you could walk from a car you really would like to buy.

The path of least resistance is the way a lot of our cars have had there paperwork maintained over the years. Change an engine, no problem, I’ve got one in the barn. Numbers don’t match, no problem, I’ll just grind down the block and re-stamp.

The lack of federal guide lines prior to 1954 also don’t help the antique hobby.

If we really do own the car but it has some issues as far as paperwork goes. Getting it taken care of is really not a big thing. It might cost you some money, but once done the car is no different than a 2019, buy, sell, or trade. Your ready.

100 million cars are registered in the USA. There are multiple problems out there every day at every DMV in every state. Engines are changed all the time. Just watch Velocity Channel or the auto auctions on TV.

Remember the cable guy saying, “get er done”? Enjoy.

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Old 02-16-2019, 11:28 AM   #28
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I'd take it one farther, what if it was stolen. How would you prove it was your.
I always wondered about the theft angle. What would be stopping someone with an engine and registration, say from a destroyed '30 coupe from stealing a real nice '30 coupe and swapping out the engine and calling it theirs?.
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:54 PM   #29
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I wonder what kind of a nightmare I'm creating for someone in the future ? I have a 1930 coupe title with proper numbers for the frame I'm using but I'm building a 1929 standard coupe . I asked the DMV clerk about changing the year on the title and got a head shake and raised eyebrows . I have plates to match title also so maybe just have frame numbers verified ? and not worry about what the future holds .
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:52 PM   #30
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I wonder what kind of a nightmare I'm creating for someone in the future ? I have a 1930 coupe title with proper numbers for the frame I'm using but I'm building a 1929 standard coupe . I asked the DMV clerk about changing the year on the title and got a head shake and raised eyebrows . I have plates to match title also so maybe just have frame numbers verified ? and not worry about what the future holds .
I would think that if you have a frame that has a confirmed 1930 date stamped on it. No matter what body year, style, or make you put on it. Itís a 1930 by law.

Thatís one of the problems with pre 1954 manufactured cars. Each manufacture had their own idea of vehicle ID. Some used the engine number, most used the frame number, and some like Ford used both.

Think of the problems that Hot Rodderís in California caused with there custom cars registered as antiques. Boyd Coddington and others. They are great cars.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:21 PM   #31
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Think of the problems that Hot Rodder’s in California caused with there custom cars registered as antiques. Boyd Coddington and others. They are great cars.

why it is sometimes good in life to leave well enough alone. we arent talking big money here. Would understand if it were a Mercer or a Stutz.
Many people in life create their own problems and headaches.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:44 PM   #32
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Dennis; Go WITH the engine number and register ir as a 29 which for all practical purposes it will be. JMO

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Dennis; Go WITH the engine number and register ir as a 29 which for all practical purposes it will be. JMO

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Already registered as a 1930 on non opp I think I'll just have frame number verified before I drop the 1929 body on engine number does not match .
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Old 02-18-2019, 06:16 PM   #34
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Already registered as a 1930 on non opp I think I'll just have frame number verified before I drop the 1929 body on engine number does not match .
Dennis: talk to a car title company. They may be able to get this done the way you would like. Phone call canít hurt.

Good luck, and enjoy your car.

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Old 02-18-2019, 06:21 PM   #35
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Already registered as a 1930 on non opp I think I'll just have frame number verified before I drop the 1929 body on engine number does not match .
You might want to call the DMV. Since the frame number is not visible without removing the body they are probably going to want to install an identification plate to the door jam and register with that number, but CALL them!

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Old 02-19-2019, 07:31 AM   #36
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Take pics of the frame # BEFORE you drop the body back on.

In my opinion the State issued VIN plate decreases the value of the car...........


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Old 02-19-2019, 12:44 PM   #37
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I'm also trying the Bonded title route, truck was sold in the state of Maine and now in Illinois. All I have is a Bill of sale, last guy never got registration and plates for it. Claims to not know the name of the person he bought it from. I contacted the local club in the area no one recognizes the truck.
I got the paperwork back twice now for minor errors, been waiting for a month now to hear something.
If anyone recognizes this truck please let me know, any info could help.
I used to work for a licensed NH dealer. I did lots of title work. It is very difficult to get a title in Maine unless you already have some sort of title. That's may be why the previous owner didn't have a title.

Good luck there in Illinois. If your were here in New England I think there would be an easier and legal way to get you a title.
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:36 PM   #38
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I just bought a body number plate from a supplier, and stamped the serial number on it. When moving to another state had no issues with in during VIN inspection.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:06 PM   #39
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I understand your situation, and wanting to do the honest thing here.

But tread carefully, because sometimes that VIN you are dealing with comes up on somebody's stolen car list, the cops show up at your door with a flatbed and if they don't bust you on the spot they will let you wave 'bye bye' to your car as it is taken away. And you get nothing.

It has happened before.

I'm just saying, be very careful what you do.
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