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34pickup · 07-05-2019, 06:13 PM

My 48 coupe's speedometer did not work and in checking for the trouble I discovered that inside the turtle, the shaft that drives the cable was missing. Only the gear was inside it. So I ordered a new shaft and installed it along with a new cable and a speedometer gauge that I tested to see if the needle moved...it did.
Upon replacing the turtle, I noticed that it seemed odd to have the cable enter from the passenger's side, but thats where it was bolted when I first removed it.

So now, with new parts and turtle reinstalled with the cable entering from the passenger's side, the speedometer does not work. My question is; did the previous owner put the turtle on backwards? Should it go on with the cable entering from the driver's side? It fit this way but it may fit the other way around too.

aussiesteve · 07-05-2019, 06:16 PM

Turtle should face to the left

34pickup · 07-05-2019, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aussiesteve

Turtle should face to the left

Aussiesteve, But isn't the "left" in Australia the "right" here in the USA??

So, left meaning the driver's side?

Mart · 07-06-2019, 04:51 AM

When in a forward gear, the shaft that drives the cable should be going clockwise when viewed end on. The clockwise rotation is carried through the cable, into the speedo, which moves clockwise as speed increases. You should be able to work out which orientation would give a clockwise rotation by looking at the helix of the gears.

Mart.

deuce lover · 07-06-2019, 04:56 AM

Aussiesteve lives in CO.The turtle should face the left as he said .

Kube · 07-06-2019, 08:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 34pickup

Aussiesteve, But isn't the "left" in Australia the "right" here in the USA??

So, left meaning the driver's side?

The left side of the car is always the left side of the car.

34pickup · 07-06-2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kube

The left side of the car is always the left side of the car.

Depends upon where you are sitting or standing.

"Aussiesteve lives in CO.The turtle should face the left as he said ."...that was a joke. Lighten up.

19Fordy · 07-06-2019, 08:16 AM

Turtle orientation no matter where you sit.

34pickup · 07-06-2019, 08:24 AM

Thanks for the help even if you don't get my attempt at humor.

Kube · 07-06-2019, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34pickup

Depends upon where you are sitting or standing.

"Aussiesteve lives in CO.The turtle should face the left as he said ."...that was a joke. Lighten up.

Lighten up? Me?
Rest assured I am fine and enjoying a beautiful day. I'm waiting on another '40 coupe to be delivered in an hour or so. This one from CA. What's not to enjoy?

RalphM · 07-06-2019, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kube

The left side of the car is always the left side of the car.

Not if your driving this car!

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/attr...ts_alvarez.jpg

19Fordy · 07-06-2019, 12:47 PM

Kube, Don't know if you would need owner permission and it would take some extra effort but, do you think it would be possible for you to post threads with photos showing the steps you take as you progress through a 40 restoration from start to finish?

Kube · 07-06-2019, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Kube, Don't know if you would need owner permission and it would take some extra effort but, do you think it would be possible for you to post threads with photos showing the steps you take as you progress through a 40 restoration from start to finish?

I'll try to do just that on this next 40. In my ignorance of youth, I'd always figured "this is the only car I'm gonna restore" or "this is the last car I'm gonna restore". And, as such, didn't taker many photos of those first five or six cars. Duh. Now, after 16 or 17, I have learned to take a lot of before and after photos. Sometimes, I am slooow learner.

Hey, do I have to post my mistakes I make along the way or can I somehow "forget" that part of the process?

tubman · 07-06-2019, 03:38 PM

Your reputation speaks for itself. That being said, we learn more form our mistakes than our successes.

19Fordy · 07-06-2019, 06:27 PM

Wow! That would be great Kube. Thanks so much for being willing to give it a try. It will inspire many 40 owners and be a great learning experience for all Fordbarners as well.
(Plus, it will make your book thicker.)

34pickup · 07-07-2019, 10:36 AM

Thanks again for everyone's help. I turned the turtle around correctly and now my speedo works. ( The one in the car, not the one I wear to the beach)....☺

Mart · 07-07-2019, 03:09 PM

Can I unthink that....

JM 35 Sedan · 07-07-2019, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34pickup

Thanks again for everyone's help. I turned the turtle around correctly and now my speedo works. ( The one in the car, not the one I wear to the beach)....☺

Best one I've heard in awhile!!

CHuDWah · 07-10-2019, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34pickup

Thanks again for everyone's help. I turned the turtle around correctly and now my speedo works. ( The one in the car, not the one I wear to the beach)....☺

Sooo...why doesn't the beach speedo work? Shaft not long enough?

mfirth · 07-11-2019, 03:20 PM

This link may be informative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9uZvrsAoyE
Hope it works, cause i'm duhm bout puters.

07-05-2019, 06:13 PM	#1
34pickup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntsville Al Posts: 1,526	Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" My 48 coupe's speedometer did not work and in checking for the trouble I discovered that inside the turtle, the shaft that drives the cable was missing. Only the gear was inside it. So I ordered a new shaft and installed it along with a new cable and a speedometer gauge that I tested to see if the needle moved...it did. Upon replacing the turtle, I noticed that it seemed odd to have the cable enter from the passenger's side, but thats where it was bolted when I first removed it. So now, with new parts and turtle reinstalled with the cable entering from the passenger's side, the speedometer does not work. My question is; did the previous owner put the turtle on backwards? Should it go on with the cable entering from the driver's side? It fit this way but it may fit the other way around too. __________________ Matt 24:36-41

07-05-2019, 06:16 PM	#2
aussiesteve Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 247	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Turtle should face to the left

07-06-2019, 04:51 AM	#4
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,745	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" When in a forward gear, the shaft that drives the cable should be going clockwise when viewed end on. The clockwise rotation is carried through the cable, into the speedo, which moves clockwise as speed increases. You should be able to work out which orientation would give a clockwise rotation by looking at the helix of the gears. Mart.

07-06-2019, 04:56 AM	#5
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,301	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Aussiesteve lives in CO.The turtle should face the left as he said .

07-06-2019, 08:24 AM	#9
34pickup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntsville Al Posts: 1,526	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Thanks for the help even if you don't get my attempt at humor. __________________ Matt 24:36-41

07-06-2019, 12:47 PM	#12
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,925	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Kube, Don't know if you would need owner permission and it would take some extra effort but, do you think it would be possible for you to post threads with photos showing the steps you take as you progress through a 40 restoration from start to finish?

07-06-2019, 03:38 PM	#14
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,304	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Your reputation speaks for itself. That being said, we learn more form our mistakes than our successes.

07-06-2019, 06:27 PM	#15
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,925	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Wow! That would be great Kube. Thanks so much for being willing to give it a try. It will inspire many 40 owners and be a great learning experience for all Fordbarners as well. (Plus, it will make your book thicker.)

07-07-2019, 10:36 AM	#16
34pickup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntsville Al Posts: 1,526	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Thanks again for everyone's help. I turned the turtle around correctly and now my speedo works. ( The one in the car, not the one I wear to the beach)....☺ __________________ Matt 24:36-41

07-07-2019, 03:09 PM	#17
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,745	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" Can I unthink that....

07-11-2019, 03:20 PM	#20
mfirth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ohio Posts: 986	Re: Another dumb question...1948 "turtle" This link may be informative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9uZvrsAoyE Hope it works, cause i'm duhm bout puters.