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dynaflash_8 · 01-28-2013, 12:15 AM

Driving along in my 30 coupe today when all the sudden it made that sound that costs money. Far as I can tell, the rearend locked up with no warning, which in turn broke the transmission case. So now I'm on the hunt for replacement parts. Whoo!

Geo. H · 01-28-2013, 01:21 AM

Was there any oil in the differential?

700rpm · 01-28-2013, 01:22 AM

Let us know what happened why you open it up.

Chuck Sea/Tac · 01-28-2013, 02:30 AM

I'll bet your rear end is fine, and the tranny locked up and broke the case. A locked tranny would lock up the rear end temporarily as well!

Tom Wesenberg · 01-28-2013, 04:53 AM

With the rear end in the air can you spin the wheel? I've see faulty brakes lock up the rear end in one direction, then release in the opposite direction.

How fast were you driving when this happened, and what gear were you in? If you were in high gear I'm thinking the problem originated in the tranny.

This might help you out, and it's very close to you:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Model-A...9770f6&vxp=mtr

George Miller · 01-28-2013, 09:14 AM

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My guess would be transmission also. Rear end should be fine.

rons49 · 01-28-2013, 10:51 AM

Me for transmission also. I'll bet a piece of a gear tooth broke of and wedged in the main cluster.

Chuck Sea/Tac · 01-28-2013, 01:11 PM

Dynaflash 8
Where do you live in Auburn. I'm just off Military and 272nd. Are you a member of the Gerties? There are several model Aers nearby, with parts.
Chuck

Farrell In Vancouver · 01-28-2013, 04:51 PM

This just happened to my Father's 30' P/U, turned out the right hand E-brake carrier took the hit when the brake bands caught while rolling through an intersection.
Managed to dawg it to my place where we tore into it. Found the carrier was an earlier type without the support ears and was not reinforced with the extra plate. Found a later one and got it back on the road. It jammed the right e-brake lever so hard that it also set the passenger side brake on as well. Said it went with a loud BANG!

jw hash · 01-29-2013, 09:03 AM

Dynaflash8
Like chuck said, I live in Auburn and have parts I sent you a PM.
John

dynaflash_8 · 01-29-2013, 07:20 PM

I was driving along in high gear when it happened. The rearend is toast. Up in the air, only one tire spins. Spiders are gone. Wedged in the pinion and locked it up, broke the case on the tranny. Had to use the tractor to lift the rear up to get it in the shop.

Chuck Sea/Tac · 01-29-2013, 11:34 PM

Wow!, that's a heck of a way to end a nice drive! Good luck getting her back together! Chuck

Tom Wesenberg · 01-29-2013, 11:48 PM

I still wonder if the tranny didn't hatch out first. It's hard for the spiders to hatch out just driving down the road, but anything could happen. It really doesn't matter which came first, as now they both need to be repaired.

Any pictures?

dynaflash_8 · 01-30-2013, 01:26 AM

Thanks to JW, i now have a transmission. Kinda waiting till i have all the parts to really tear into the old girl

spdway1 · 01-30-2013, 08:50 AM

This was my BOOM and CRUNCH last Spring!!!

Farrell In Vancouver · 01-30-2013, 09:05 AM

Well! there's your problem.
Looks like the drive shaft nut stayed in the game holding the pinion to the shaft, so the pinion bearing nuts got loose? never good when Mr. Driveshaft shakes hands with Mr. Ring Carrier.
Was there any warning noises before this event?
Looks like the rear end housing can be repaired and cleaned up?
How did the transmission fair?

Mike V. Florida · 01-30-2013, 04:44 PM

Nothing a little JB weld can't fix!!

Ken Ehrenhofer · 01-30-2013, 10:40 PM

I remember when that happened to me.......Yea along time ago....

My brother and I were drag racing on Grand Avenue in Chicago....He was driving a 30 roadster and I was in My old wide bed pickup

Yep we were revvin up to see who could get to the other side of the intersection the fastest. Of course I wasn't goin to let him win and he had the same idea about me!

I revved and popped the clutch and let it rip.......Only to hear a loud bang and watch him go flyin by. By the time we got it apart we found I had broken the drive shaft by the snap ring groove for the speedo gear.......Oh well never did that again....Oh to be young and stupid

Tom Wesenberg · 02-03-2013, 12:58 PM

This is like the stock car races, we come to see the crashes!

Dynaflash 8, any pictures yet of the damaged tranny and rear end?

dynaflash_8 · 02-03-2013, 03:54 PM

Hey tom, still have yet to pick up my rearend. Waiting on payday. Once i have that ill start tearing things apart. Dont like to tear things apart till i have all the parts

01-28-2013, 12:15 AM	#1
dynaflash_8 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 73	Driving along, then boom and crunch Driving along in my 30 coupe today when all the sudden it made that sound that costs money. Far as I can tell, the rearend locked up with no warning, which in turn broke the transmission case. So now I'm on the hunt for replacement parts. Whoo!

01-28-2013, 01:21 AM	#2
Geo. H Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 374	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Was there any oil in the differential?

01-28-2013, 01:22 AM	#3
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,902	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Let us know what happened why you open it up. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

01-28-2013, 02:30 AM	#4
Chuck Sea/Tac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma Posts: 2,354	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch I'll bet your rear end is fine, and the tranny locked up and broke the case. A locked tranny would lock up the rear end temporarily as well!

01-28-2013, 04:53 AM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch With the rear end in the air can you spin the wheel? I've see faulty brakes lock up the rear end in one direction, then release in the opposite direction. How fast were you driving when this happened, and what gear were you in? If you were in high gear I'm thinking the problem originated in the tranny. This might help you out, and it's very close to you: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Model-A...9770f6&vxp=mtr Last edited by Tom Wesenberg; 01-28-2013 at 05:45 AM.

01-28-2013, 09:14 AM	#6
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My guess would be transmission also. Rear end should be fine.

01-28-2013, 10:51 AM	#7
rons49 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: tucson Posts: 136	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Me for transmission also. I'll bet a piece of a gear tooth broke of and wedged in the main cluster.

01-28-2013, 01:11 PM	#8
Chuck Sea/Tac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma Posts: 2,354	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Dynaflash 8 Where do you live in Auburn. I'm just off Military and 272nd. Are you a member of the Gerties? There are several model Aers nearby, with parts. Chuck

01-28-2013, 04:51 PM	#9
Farrell In Vancouver Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pitt Meadows BC Posts: 1,003	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch This just happened to my Father's 30' P/U, turned out the right hand E-brake carrier took the hit when the brake bands caught while rolling through an intersection. Managed to dawg it to my place where we tore into it. Found the carrier was an earlier type without the support ears and was not reinforced with the extra plate. Found a later one and got it back on the road. It jammed the right e-brake lever so hard that it also set the passenger side brake on as well. Said it went with a loud BANG!

01-29-2013, 09:03 AM	#10
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Dynaflash8 Like chuck said, I live in Auburn and have parts I sent you a PM. John

01-29-2013, 07:20 PM	#11
dynaflash_8 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 73	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch I was driving along in high gear when it happened. The rearend is toast. Up in the air, only one tire spins. Spiders are gone. Wedged in the pinion and locked it up, broke the case on the tranny. Had to use the tractor to lift the rear up to get it in the shop.

01-29-2013, 11:34 PM	#12
Chuck Sea/Tac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma Posts: 2,354	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Wow!, that's a heck of a way to end a nice drive! Good luck getting her back together! Chuck

01-29-2013, 11:48 PM	#13
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch I still wonder if the tranny didn't hatch out first. It's hard for the spiders to hatch out just driving down the road, but anything could happen. It really doesn't matter which came first, as now they both need to be repaired. Any pictures?

01-30-2013, 01:26 AM	#14
dynaflash_8 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 73	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Thanks to JW, i now have a transmission. Kinda waiting till i have all the parts to really tear into the old girl

01-30-2013, 09:05 AM	#16
Farrell In Vancouver Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pitt Meadows BC Posts: 1,003	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Well! there's your problem. Looks like the drive shaft nut stayed in the game holding the pinion to the shaft, so the pinion bearing nuts got loose? never good when Mr. Driveshaft shakes hands with Mr. Ring Carrier. Was there any warning noises before this event? Looks like the rear end housing can be repaired and cleaned up? How did the transmission fair?

01-30-2013, 04:44 PM	#17
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Nothing a little JB weld can't fix!! __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

01-30-2013, 10:40 PM	#18
Ken Ehrenhofer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Woodstock, Illinois Posts: 597	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch I remember when that happened to me.......Yea along time ago.... My brother and I were drag racing on Grand Avenue in Chicago....He was driving a 30 roadster and I was in My old wide bed pickup Yep we were revvin up to see who could get to the other side of the intersection the fastest. Of course I wasn't goin to let him win and he had the same idea about me!I revved and popped the clutch and let it rip.......Only to hear a loud bang and watch him go flyin by. By the time we got it apart we found I had broken the drive shaft by the snap ring groove for the speedo gear.......Oh well never did that again....Oh to be young and stupid

02-03-2013, 12:58 PM	#19
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch This is like the stock car races, we come to see the crashes! Dynaflash 8, any pictures yet of the damaged tranny and rear end?

02-03-2013, 03:54 PM	#20
dynaflash_8 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 73	Re: Driving along, then boom and crunch Hey tom, still have yet to pick up my rearend. Waiting on payday. Once i have that ill start tearing things apart. Dont like to tear things apart till i have all the parts