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04-08-2015, 08:15 PM | #1 |
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1934 Ford Waterpumps
Hi Guys,i bought a pair of waterpumps about 5 yrs ago that have bearings in them instead of bushes,unfortunatly i have forgotten where i bought them from.Does anyone know where i can get some from.thanks
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04-09-2015, 12:40 AM | #2 |
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Re: 1934 Ford Waterpumps
I'm pretty sure that Fryer's has bearings. Originally Harry (who has passed), and now Daryl. He advertises in the V8 Times. 909-335-1418 Redlands, ca
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04-09-2015, 03:54 AM | #3 |
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Re: 1934 Ford Waterpumps
Hi Bob do you know if they have a web site?.thanks Martin
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04-09-2015, 04:36 AM | #4 |
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Re: 1934 Ford Waterpumps
Great pumps I have them on my '35
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04-09-2015, 06:35 AM | #5 |
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Re: 1934 Ford Waterpumps
Why would you want to ruin perfectly good pumps by putting bearings in them?? There are still pumps working that are 80 years old and very few have bushing problems.
I have seen thousands of bushing pumps that Skip tore apart with only a few that the bushings were worn. The problems are with seals and dirt is what causes them to leak. Skip puts high flow impellers and modern seals in all he rebuilds. When a bearing go's bad it's usually time for a tow truck. Adding water to a leaking bushing pump will get you home. Skip also has numerous pumps in his junk pile that were converted to bearings. Some bearing customers reported having bearings replaced 2 or 3 times before sending them to Skip. Skip won't repair them because of his warrantee. In over 20 years he has NEVER charged to repair the few pumps that he rebuilt that failed. G.M.
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04-09-2015, 10:18 PM | #8 |
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If bearings were not the answer over bushings in water pumps, all of the pumps made today would still be using bushings. Also the bearings are sealed so the grease stays in and the dirt stays out. Much less friction over a bushings.Get pumps with bearings and the modern seals. Even Ford had bearings in their later pumps.
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1949 to 1953 pumps were designed for bearings. The snout is longer which keeps the water away from the face of the bearing seal. As shown on the 1949 shaft and bearing which operated well over 50 years and still turns free. All water pump seals leak, the carbon surface hydroplanes on the seat and runs on a film of water. Water pump lubricants only purpose is to lubricate the seal and seat. Run dry the seal would get extremely hot and burn up in a short time. The picture of the 49-53 shaft and bearing shows where the normal seal water leak has removed shaft material over time in the leak area but the water is slung off before most of it hits the face of the bearing seal, as I said this bearing still turns free. The other bearing and shaft is out of a 37 to 48 pump that was made for bushings. This bearing was run a much shorter time then the 49 one. You can see the water covers the entire shaft and the face of the bearing seal. Rust on the shaft works in under the seal lip and makes the surface ruff and allows the seal to leak. This shaft is bound up tight and don't move at all. With this condition you can't drive the car without removing the fan belt and you can't travel very far like that. If you look close at the modern pump seal Skip uses it has a small width on the surface that runs on the seat. This has less friction and generates less heat. I measured the height where it rides on one after 10,000 miles and could hardly detect any wear. He also uses hard SS shafts in the bushing pumps, the seal spring and it's hardware so rust isn't a factor. G.M.
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1949 to 1953 pumps were designed for bearings. The snout is longer which keeps the water away from the face of the bearing seal. As shown on the 1949 shaft and bearing which operated well over 50 years and still turns free. All water pump seals leak, the carbon surface hydroplanes on the seat and runs on a film of water. Water pump lubricants only purpose is to lubricate the seal and set. Run dry the seal would get extremely hot and burn up in a short time. The picture of the 49-53 shaft and bearing shows where the normal seal water leak has removed shaft material over time in the leak area but the water is slung off before most of it hits the face of the bearing, as I said this bearing still turns free. The other bearing and shaft is out of a 37 to 48 pump that was made for bushings. This bearing was run a much shorter time then the 49 one. You can see the water covers the entire shaft and the face of the bearing seal. Rust on the shaft works in under the seal lip and makes the surface ruff and makes the seal leak. This shaft is bound up tight and don't move at all. With this condition you can't drive the car without removing the fan belt and you can't travel very far like that. If you look close at the modern pump seal Skip uses it has a small width on the surface that runs on the seat. This has less friction and generates less heat. I measure the height where it rides on one after 10,000 miles and could hardly detect any wear. He also uses hard SS shafts in the bushing pumps, the seal spring and it's hardware so rust isn't a factor. G.M.
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