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RGiles · 10-25-2013, 06:39 PM

I have owned my woodie for maybe forty five years. Registered it in Virginia somewhere around 1970 and at that time purchased antique tags. Drove the car for maybe ten years and parked it. Since lost the title. Went to DMV to apply for a new one and they tell me they have no record of my car. Cannot apply for a lost title. No help from DMV. They could care less. I have thought about getting someone to write me a bill of sale and reapply. Is this the easiest way? Thanks Dick

Hamtown Al · 10-25-2013, 06:42 PM

Take your registration card to the DMV. Then see what happens. Good luck.

bk53 · 10-25-2013, 06:54 PM

Hi Dick,
Welcome to the board. I have no help to offer, sympathy only. Keep it legal.
More about the woodie? what motor, year etc?
Bill

thirt4 · 10-25-2013, 06:59 PM

If you have a family relative in another state, have them check to see what their rules are.
If reasonable, have them license it under their name at their address AND YOUR NAME at their addressin in that state then "move" to your home state and relicense it.

If that should happen to me, I KNOW that I can go back to South Dakota and have it licensed with another person AND ME, then move it down here. Done that and it works. Taxes are much cheaper there for me too.
And of course you do understand tho.... just as soon as you do that.... Your orignal title will turn up in some obscure corner. Murphy's Law.
Good Luck.

jim1932 · 10-25-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RGiles

I have owned my woodie for maybe forty five years. Registered it in Virginia somewhere around 1970 and at that time purchased antique tags. Drove the car for maybe ten years and parked it. Since lost the title. Went to DMV to apply for a new one and they tell me they have no record of my car. Cannot apply for a lost title. No help from DMV. They could care less. I have thought about getting someone to write me a bill of sale and reapply. Is this the easiest way? Thanks Dick

What are the title rules/history in VA? I know in Massachusetts they didn't issue titles until 1973. If you owned the car before they did titles seems like a notarized affidavit to that effect complete with any registration paperwork you have that show that you owned the car, should do it.

This is definitely a time where a drive to a small rural office would pay off in better service.

super flat · 10-25-2013, 07:26 PM

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If you have an old registration or the plates , how can they refuse ? Gary

jim1932 · 10-25-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by super flat

If you have an old registration or the plates , how can they refuse ? Gary

Because their little systems don't have an "Other" button.......

lonewolf · 10-25-2013, 07:37 PM

just bring the vin number up. thats what i did worked great

TJ · 10-25-2013, 08:31 PM

Bringing the VIN up may not help. if the car has not been licensed for many years the information may have been purged from the system. Many states purge records after 5 years.

Torchie · 10-25-2013, 08:31 PM

So you don't have the plate or any form of registration. And the VIN yielded nothing.
Seems to me that any one of these items would do the trick. Or did you just go in and give them your name. Plus do you still live in Virgina?
As TJ stated many states are purging after X number of years.
I know that title issue's in some states are getting strict but this seems strange. Aren't the Antique Tags permanent for the car? If so you would think that they would still be on record.
Good luck and keep us up dated.

dinokruzordinance · 10-25-2013, 08:43 PM

I live in a small town next to a big city ~ its easier to bond or apply for a title in the city. These gals hete are strict ~ car club guys agree. Your mileage may vary

scrapiron · 10-25-2013, 08:47 PM

Have you been given form "VSA 12" ?

" Affidavit in Lieu of Title Certificate"

Some DMV drones don't even know of this form.
Do you have any old insurance papers? Old photos of car with tags on it? ,,,Tax records?

Good luck,, keep us posted.

thirt4 · 10-25-2013, 08:52 PM

Get ahold of a good member of the License Plate Collectors and purchase a correct year clear plate for your car. Drag it in and show it to them and tell them you need a duplicate title for that plate. Stand your ground and demand a supervisor if necessary. Bet you can get them to issue it to you. What's to lose but the effort?
It is time we stood up to these lame bureaucratic stooges!!

mhsprecher · 10-25-2013, 09:05 PM

Where do you live? Someone in our chapter found a DMV in Arlington, VA that was a little out of the way with someone who was a huge help in another difficult situation. I can inquire about that if you live in NoVA.

wspiker · 10-25-2013, 09:26 PM

I think you should ask them. They are the ones who can help................. YOU need them!

woodypecker · 10-25-2013, 09:53 PM

Dig up all information ou can find and go to several offices till you get the right answer.

RGiles · 10-26-2013, 07:56 AM

Thanks for all of the responses. Have enjoyed the forum for quite some time. I do not have a registration card for the antique tags. Virginia has been a title state for a long time. The reason I went to the DMV was to register 1935 Va. tags. This is when I began looking for the title. They tell me all records are deleted after ten years. I do want to keep it legal. About the woodie. I found it in Washington DC, no motor, painted black inside and out. I found a running 35 engine from a hot rodder friend. At this time I had fifty dollars in the car and fifty dollars in the engine. Remember this is forty five years ago. I have most of the body rebuilt now. Hope to have it on the road next summer. I will get the title worked out. I still live in rural Va. DMV people want to help but don,t know how. Thanks Dick

mrcorvair · 10-26-2013, 08:09 AM

I live in Virginia. You can go online and download a form that is something like abandoned vehicle. Look thru the forms--you'll find it. Just look for the word abandoned. Fill out the form online. There is a I believe 30day waiting period while your serial number online is available. Assuming at the end of 30days there has been no problem reported to the DMV you fill out another form and you then get a document that you take to DMV. I've had to do this twice. Go for it.

Uncle Bob · 10-26-2013, 08:09 AM

The other day MikeV posted up this link showing licensing/titling info for all the states as published by SEMA/SAN : http://www.bipac.net/page.asp?conten...olbox&g=SEMAGA

Just pick your state and read. Va. has 73 pages of info so I'm not going to spend the time to dig through it, but hopefully your answer is in there, including the civil code number to help the DMV folk.

TJ · 10-26-2013, 08:57 AM

Not sure why you can't apply for a lost title. I'm sure they have encountered this problem before. If the abandoned vehicle forms will work then go for it. Some states require that the car be bonded (to protect the state) for 3 years or so, but the bond is cheap and will get you your paperwork .

10-25-2013, 06:39 PM	#1
RGiles Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Winchester, va Posts: 9	Lost my title ,, no help from DMV I have owned my woodie for maybe forty five years. Registered it in Virginia somewhere around 1970 and at that time purchased antique tags. Drove the car for maybe ten years and parked it. Since lost the title. Went to DMV to apply for a new one and they tell me they have no record of my car. Cannot apply for a lost title. No help from DMV. They could care less. I have thought about getting someone to write me a bill of sale and reapply. Is this the easiest way? Thanks Dick

10-25-2013, 06:42 PM	#2
Hamtown Al Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Smithfield, Va Posts: 822	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Take your registration card to the DMV. Then see what happens. Good luck. __________________ 36 Fords Rule! Visit at www.36fords.com.

10-25-2013, 06:54 PM	#3
bk53 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Near Dallas Posts: 387	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Hi Dick, Welcome to the board. I have no help to offer, sympathy only. Keep it legal. More about the woodie? what motor, year etc? Bill

10-25-2013, 06:59 PM	#4
thirt4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 288	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV If you have a family relative in another state, have them check to see what their rules are. If reasonable, have them license it under their name at their address AND YOUR NAME at their addressin in that state then "move" to your home state and relicense it. If that should happen to me, I KNOW that I can go back to South Dakota and have it licensed with another person AND ME, then move it down here. Done that and it works. Taxes are much cheaper there for me too. And of course you do understand tho.... just as soon as you do that.... Your orignal title will turn up in some obscure corner. Murphy's Law. Good Luck.

10-25-2013, 07:26 PM	#6
super flat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: west bend wi Posts: 314	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If you have an old registration or the plates , how can they refuse ? Gary

10-25-2013, 07:37 PM	#8
lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 464	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV just bring the vin number up. thats what i did worked great

10-25-2013, 08:31 PM	#9
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,035	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Bringing the VIN up may not help. if the car has not been licensed for many years the information may have been purged from the system. Many states purge records after 5 years.

10-25-2013, 08:31 PM	#10
Torchie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Northern Mi. Posts: 355	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV So you don't have the plate or any form of registration. And the VIN yielded nothing. Seems to me that any one of these items would do the trick. Or did you just go in and give them your name. Plus do you still live in Virgina? As TJ stated many states are purging after X number of years. I know that title issue's in some states are getting strict but this seems strange. Aren't the Antique Tags permanent for the car? If so you would think that they would still be on record. Good luck and keep us up dated.

10-25-2013, 08:43 PM	#11
dinokruzordinance Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Benton Arkansas Posts: 31	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV I live in a small town next to a big city ~ its easier to bond or apply for a title in the city. These gals hete are strict ~ car club guys agree. Your mileage may vary

10-25-2013, 08:47 PM	#12
scrapiron Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Independence, VA Posts: 423	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Have you been given form "VSA 12" ? " Affidavit in Lieu of Title Certificate" Some DMV drones don't even know of this form. Do you have any old insurance papers? Old photos of car with tags on it? ,,,Tax records? Good luck,, keep us posted.

10-25-2013, 08:52 PM	#13
thirt4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 288	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Get ahold of a good member of the License Plate Collectors and purchase a correct year clear plate for your car. Drag it in and show it to them and tell them you need a duplicate title for that plate. Stand your ground and demand a supervisor if necessary. Bet you can get them to issue it to you. What's to lose but the effort? It is time we stood up to these lame bureaucratic stooges!!

10-25-2013, 09:05 PM	#14
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Where do you live? Someone in our chapter found a DMV in Arlington, VA that was a little out of the way with someone who was a huge help in another difficult situation. I can inquire about that if you live in NoVA.

10-25-2013, 09:26 PM	#15
wspiker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 190	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV I think you should ask them. They are the ones who can help................. YOU need them!

10-25-2013, 09:53 PM	#16
woodypecker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 239	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Dig up all information ou can find and go to several offices till you get the right answer.

10-26-2013, 07:56 AM	#17
RGiles Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Winchester, va Posts: 9	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Thanks for all of the responses. Have enjoyed the forum for quite some time. I do not have a registration card for the antique tags. Virginia has been a title state for a long time. The reason I went to the DMV was to register 1935 Va. tags. This is when I began looking for the title. They tell me all records are deleted after ten years. I do want to keep it legal. About the woodie. I found it in Washington DC, no motor, painted black inside and out. I found a running 35 engine from a hot rodder friend. At this time I had fifty dollars in the car and fifty dollars in the engine. Remember this is forty five years ago. I have most of the body rebuilt now. Hope to have it on the road next summer. I will get the title worked out. I still live in rural Va. DMV people want to help but don,t know how. Thanks Dick

10-26-2013, 08:09 AM	#18
mrcorvair Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: McDowell, Va Posts: 141	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV I live in Virginia. You can go online and download a form that is something like abandoned vehicle. Look thru the forms--you'll find it. Just look for the word abandoned. Fill out the form online. There is a I believe 30day waiting period while your serial number online is available. Assuming at the end of 30days there has been no problem reported to the DMV you fill out another form and you then get a document that you take to DMV. I've had to do this twice. Go for it.

10-26-2013, 08:09 AM	#19
Uncle Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Salado, TX. Posts: 733	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV The other day MikeV posted up this link showing licensing/titling info for all the states as published by SEMA/SAN : http://www.bipac.net/page.asp?conten...olbox&g=SEMAGA Just pick your state and read. Va. has 73 pages of info so I'm not going to spend the time to dig through it, but hopefully your answer is in there, including the civil code number to help the DMV folk. __________________ Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.

10-26-2013, 08:57 AM	#20
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,035	Re: Lost my title ,, no help from DMV Not sure why you can't apply for a lost title. I'm sure they have encountered this problem before. If the abandoned vehicle forms will work then go for it. Some states require that the car be bonded (to protect the state) for 3 years or so, but the bond is cheap and will get you your paperwork .