1936 Ford V8 Service/Restoration Thread

[Ketronj281989]

Originally Posted by alanwoodieman

I did a 36 Ford four door that was a one family owned car-the original owner was a Ford dealership owner which was the current owners great grand father. Ms Ida as we named the car was a wealth of originality but too far gone to just clean and drive.

What a neat story. Thanks for sharing. I greatly appreciate the picture of your original engine bay. I have since concluded thanks to the help of many that my engine bay has seen quite a bit of work over the years and far from original.

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

Originally Posted by mercman from oz

Hi there from Down-under. Welcome to Ford Barn and the Early Ford V8 Club of America. I am sure that you will get all the problems sorted out with a bunch of experts on Ford Barn to steer you in the right direction. At 31 years of age, you are the next generation that we need to keep these old Ford V8's on the road and continue enjoying and promoting them for generations to came. Regards Mercman <><

Mercman,

Thanks for your posting and message regarding running board trim. Please feel free to point out any items that may be suspect on the car. I have already found many that I will slowly post about as this thread continues. Appreciate the comments regarding my age and next generation!

Thanks,

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

Originally Posted by cajunfirehawk

Welcome to the barn, I have a 36 slantback but no where as nice as yours.

Thanks Todd.

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

Originally Posted by Graham Freeman

Welcome to Fordbarn from New Zealand.
You mention the tyres (tires) are stamped made in New Zealand.
Firestone in NZ made a big range of vintage tyres here before selling the moulds to the USA. This i would guess from memory was around 20-25 years ago so your tyres are going to be at least that age.
I have a set of 17" here that were one of the last sets made. I have had them in dark storage since then and am going to use them on my cabriolet.

Graham Freeman,

Thanks for this information. I was scratching my head regarding. Had never seen such a combination before. This car received a minor restoration back in the 1980's before it was put in storage. I could seen these tires likely new on the car back then. They will of course need replaced before I hit the road. Its a shame as these NZ Firestone's have seen little action, they are all in really nice shape with little tread wear. The spare has never been touched.

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

Originally Posted by uncle buck

Congratulations, Looks like you got yourself a nice car! Ricks Antique Auto Parts.... I remember buying some of my first parts there in about 1980 also.

Thanks uncle buck. Great movie by the way!

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

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Originally Posted by Terranova

Ketronj, you need to link your videos here.
Everyone needs to watch his videos. His manner and delivery are great. For someone so new to the material, he’s really done his home work.

Terranova,

Thank you for your comments. I will slowly link all of my YouTube videos to this thread as I continue to discuss the restoration/service of this car.

Many more video's to come, stay tuned!

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

Originally Posted by Jeff/Illinois

Ketronj that is one NEAT '36 Ford! I like it!!

Congratulations, you did well. You'll have a lot of fun with the car and meet some pretty nice folks along the way

Thank you Jeff.

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

With the known history of the car now behind us, I wanted to first share several exterior/interior photo's before we dig into the mechanical side.

Exterior pictures attached of how I received the car back in June of this year. At time of purchase and first few videos I made, I had the interpretation the car was an original Deluxe survivor car. This is what the previous owner had told me. I now know this is not the case.

Jon

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Thanks to the help of new found friends and fellow collectors, several exterior items are out of place on this car.

-As previously mentioned by Lawson Cox, the grille guard was not a Ford authorized accessory.

-Don Rodgers including several members on the club forum indicated the 1936 greyhound was not a Ford authorized accessory domestically in 1936. It was in Canada for Deluxe cars. Careful study of my greyhound shows the poor craftsmanship in casting and mounting on hood. Likely a reproduction from a later date.

-Mercman pointed out a great item, the stainless steel trim on the running boards. As Mercman indicated and pointed out, the trim strips are too short/reproductions. The originals would have overhang past the rubber material on each end.

This car's serial number is matching on both transmission housing and front driver side frame rail. Serial number puts production at April 1936. This could still be considered an early version for the 1936 model 68 car. As a result:

There is only one windshield wiper.

Early standards and deluxe's shared what would later become the "deluxe" spare tire cover with stainless trim ring. Both standard and deluxe used the "deluxe" spare tire trim set up during early production.

The seller told me the pin stripe was "touched up". The pin stripe is missing on the radiator grille (more on this item later). The seller did not know the radiator grille had pinstripe which leads me to believe he obtained the car this way.

Locking gas cap is incorrect.

1936 exterior door handles of this design were issued on standard models starting March 1936. Deluxe models had curved handles.

Jon

[Ketronj281989]

Upon looking over the car at the elderly gentleman's house, I was stunned how nice and well preserved the interior of the car was.

While well preserved, there were several items that had been "serviced" decades ago. I was not aware at the time of purchase as I knew very little about early V8 cars. In my mind though it was just the type of interior I was looking for, old and looked like it has been with the car for a very long time.

Pictures attached of the car interior as it was upon purchase.

YouTube Interior video (Disclaimer: thru much research, I now know the car is not 90-100 percent original!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNBAVuo4eJs&t=31s


Jon

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Utilizing intense study and help from new found V8 friends there are several interior items that stand out as "rather interesting".

-The brown banjo deluxe wheel is indeed an original wheel from what I can tell. It is incorrect for this car. Brown 1936 deluxe wheel's were offered starting May of 1936 on all deluxe cars to match the new mid production brown dash interior. Before that the deluxe wheel in early production was grey.

-Front seat floor mat appears very very old, I would say at least 60+ years old. It would appear as an aftermarket item.

-I am not able to tell if the seats were ever re-upholstered. The mo-hair currently present is ancient or at least looks and feels to say the least.

-Door/window handle/crank appear different from what the 1935-1936 club books shows regarding early production 1936 model year.

-Plated dome light switch

-Dual overhead visors

-Accessory hot air heater, radio, and early 1936 mirror clock are correct and likely have been with the car for a very long time if not since it was purchased new in 1936. Currently not able to verify this claim though.

-Ignition appears to be the original with matching original keys!!

-Black painted steering column.

-Three digit trip odometer

-No deluxe window garnish

-No rear window shade


All of these items point to a new discovery, can you guess?

[Ketronj281989]

THE FACTS SEEM TO INDICATE WHAT I REALLY HAVE IS A STANDARD!

New research and discoveries have led to the carÂ’s real identity. What I truly have is a standard car that was made into a deluxe. If I were to bet, this transition took place back when the car was last active during its parade/car show days pre 1980's. Most all work on the car is weathered, most all bolts and screws are mismatched. These items are indications someone has been into this car more than once.


SERVICE/RESTORATION END GOAL: TAKE THE CAR BACK TO IT'S ORIGINAL FACTORY SET UP.

I wanted to provide a mission statement shown above before proceeding further. New developments with the car have lead me to take the car back to a stock configuration or back to stock as much as possible.

I feel I will be doing the car a great service by reinstating it's long lost identity!

Jon

[koates]

Hi Jon, nice car and you can drive and enjoy it as it is. Most of these cars had small changes and replacement items fitted over the years and that is a part of their history. Some of these changes are more reliable than the original parts such as the cast iron cylinder heads replacing the original aluminium on your engine. Also fitted is a later glass bowl fuel pump and later oil filler cap instead of the air scoop type. Some fuel lines and wiring are not correct. Generator cut out should be cad plated and not painted black. A good chance that your mirror clock is a reproduction. But as I said you dont have to make everything perfect. The grille guard I would have left fitted because it might save your grille from damage one day. I do like greyhounds so I would keep it on. Going on your interior photos , the seats at least look too good to be original whereas the headlining looks original to me. These are in no way a criticism of your car at all..Just maintain and drive it. Regards, Kevin.

[koates]

I also meant to mention that your carb should be a stromberg 97 on a 36 Ford. Yours is a later 94 type. Regards, Kevin.

[Ketronj281989]

Kevin,

Thank you for your response and comments. I am all about constructive criticism and learning. Please share as much as you would like. It is nice to know the history of this Ford. Quite a few items have been added to the car or at least serviced a long time ago. The work is rather sloppy and appears to have been rushed. Many mis-matched screws and quick fixes that I don't too much care for. We will make it right!

Jon