The Ford Barn

ericr · 05-02-2019, 05:38 PM

https://www.thenation.com/article/ford-and-fuhrer/

Synchro909 · 05-02-2019, 05:56 PM

I've heard it said that Henry didn't care who won the war - he had a dollar each way.
This could easily turn political so I'll leave it at that!

Smooth_One · 05-02-2019, 07:21 PM

Oh boy here we go...

Chris Haynes · 05-03-2019, 12:45 AM

Very old news not worth rehashing.

Tudortomnz · 05-03-2019, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Haynes

Very old news not worth rehashing.

Ditto ; lets get back to the cars.

Railcarmover · 05-03-2019, 08:02 AM

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Ford powered all sides..German,Russian and American. Current views on anti semitism should not be overlaid on history,we've evolved to this point,its unfair to judge those who didn't live through the evolution.

WW2 wasn't a foregone conclusion in 1940/41,the Axis were known to be inferior in capacity and raw materials,but their armies were first rate.Its hard to boil it down to one point,but the failure to take a direct thrust to Moscow when the tide was high in late '41,with the panzers 50 miles from the Kremlin looms large.Hitler came close,closer than the history books lead you to believe.

Bob Bidonde · 05-03-2019, 09:10 AM

The bottom line is that the Ford Motor Company helped the USA and its allies win WW2. Henry Ford's politics were not in the mainstream, and it matters not 77 years after his death.

trulyvintage · 05-03-2019, 09:40 AM

So ....

It would appear the OP is “ very disturbed “.

If I were “ very disturbed “ and felt compelled to start a thread
and post an external link ....

I would sell my F350 PSD CC Dually that I drive every
day and never buy another Ford.

Jim

Terry, NJ · 05-03-2019, 10:54 AM

As a part German-American, I get tired of these attempts to slander anyone by painting them with a "NAZI" brush. In the 1930s, Hitler was a very popular man. Time magazine even made him "Man of the year" in 1938. Why? Because of the economic miracle he had brought to Germany, despite the very adverse conditions put on Germany by the big Bankers and their plans to keep Germany in perpetual Debt. Although. The plans to oppose them were actually from a man named Hjalimar (sp) Schacht, not Hitler. There was no depression in Germany after 1933-34, Despite Germany having had it's gold reserves confiscated by the allies at Versailles. There was no talk of concentration camps then. Only what a remarkable recovery Germany made and the great man who made it all happen. Yes! Ford did business with Hitler! So what! So did Prescott Bush and many others. I'm told that many railroads ran on Kruppstahl tires? Does that mean the railroads were complicit in the building of National Socialism? Up to 1939, Hitler was regarded as a great man by many Americans. My mother was one! In 1939, she bought a copy of Mein Kampf and found it unreadable. What ever Hitler was, he was no writer. No body took the trouble to toss it out, so it sat on the shelf gathering dust and passed to me. Give it up! This is last century's news! It troubles no one!
Terry

Jeff/Illinois · 05-03-2019, 01:28 PM

Today's Corporations know no national dedication or honor. They have no borders. Or loyalty.

They have been given 'individual person' status and treated like a human being. They have special privilege.

Unfortunately, as a result we all can sometimes be made to suffer. They have become monsters.

Synchro909 · 05-03-2019, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff/Illinois

Today's Corporations know no national dedication or honor. They have no borders. Or loyalty.

They have been given 'individual person' status and treated like a human being. They have special privilege.

Unfortunately, as a result we all can sometimes be made to suffer. They have become monsters.

Too True! Their behavior hasn't changed. There are steps being taken by our government to bring them into line as much as one government can but their international character makes them difficult to deal with and they know it!

DHZIEMAN · 05-03-2019, 05:29 PM

I really do understand Henry Ford had some views not acceptable in our world. I also know he had what I call "slot enginnering brilliance on Mechanical stuff!"
However, I am not interested in reading about other subject and in particular borderline political stuff on a Model A Forum! Please move on to what the Forum is for and talk about your Model A Ford.

05-02-2019, 05:38 PM	#1
ericr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,542	A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany https://www.thenation.com/article/ford-and-fuhrer/

05-02-2019, 05:56 PM	#2
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany I've heard it said that Henry didn't care who won the war - he had a dollar each way. This could easily turn political so I'll leave it at that! __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

05-02-2019, 07:21 PM	#3
Smooth_One Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: St Clair, Michigan Posts: 395	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany Oh boy here we go... __________________ Isaiah B. 1928 all metal Tudor

05-03-2019, 12:45 AM	#4
Chris Haynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA Posts: 2,832	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany Very old news not worth rehashing. __________________ 1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?

05-03-2019, 08:02 AM	#6
Railcarmover BANNED Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,262	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Ford powered all sides..German,Russian and American. Current views on anti semitism should not be overlaid on history,we've evolved to this point,its unfair to judge those who didn't live through the evolution. WW2 wasn't a foregone conclusion in 1940/41,the Axis were known to be inferior in capacity and raw materials,but their armies were first rate.Its hard to boil it down to one point,but the failure to take a direct thrust to Moscow when the tide was high in late '41,with the panzers 50 miles from the Kremlin looms large.Hitler came close,closer than the history books lead you to believe.

05-03-2019, 09:10 AM	#7
Bob Bidonde Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,466	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany The bottom line is that the Ford Motor Company helped the USA and its allies win WW2. Henry Ford's politics were not in the mainstream, and it matters not 77 years after his death. __________________ Bob Bidonde

05-03-2019, 09:40 AM	#8
trulyvintage Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Direct Enclosed Transport Since 2006 Posts: 4,160	Your Point Being ? So .... It would appear the OP is “ very disturbed “. If I were “ very disturbed “ and felt compelled to start a thread and post an external link .... I would sell my F350 PSD CC Dually that I drive every day and never buy another Ford. Jim __________________ Click Here To See Where I Am Today What My Actual Customers Say Click Here Click Here To See Vehicles I Have Hauled

05-03-2019, 10:54 AM	#9
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany As a part German-American, I get tired of these attempts to slander anyone by painting them with a "NAZI" brush. In the 1930s, Hitler was a very popular man. Time magazine even made him "Man of the year" in 1938. Why? Because of the economic miracle he had brought to Germany, despite the very adverse conditions put on Germany by the big Bankers and their plans to keep Germany in perpetual Debt. Although. The plans to oppose them were actually from a man named Hjalimar (sp) Schacht, not Hitler. There was no depression in Germany after 1933-34, Despite Germany having had it's gold reserves confiscated by the allies at Versailles. There was no talk of concentration camps then. Only what a remarkable recovery Germany made and the great man who made it all happen. Yes! Ford did business with Hitler! So what! So did Prescott Bush and many others. I'm told that many railroads ran on Kruppstahl tires? Does that mean the railroads were complicit in the building of National Socialism? Up to 1939, Hitler was regarded as a great man by many Americans. My mother was one! In 1939, she bought a copy of Mein Kampf and found it unreadable. What ever Hitler was, he was no writer. No body took the trouble to toss it out, so it sat on the shelf gathering dust and passed to me. Give it up! This is last century's news! It troubles no one! Terry Last edited by Terry, NJ; 05-03-2019 at 01:39 PM.

05-03-2019, 01:28 PM	#10
Jeff/Illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,789	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany Today's Corporations know no national dedication or honor. They have no borders. Or loyalty. They have been given 'individual person' status and treated like a human being. They have special privilege. Unfortunately, as a result we all can sometimes be made to suffer. They have become monsters.

05-03-2019, 05:29 PM	#12
DHZIEMAN Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Sunrise Beach, Mo Posts: 439	Re: A Very Disturbing History of the Company and 1930s Germany I really do understand Henry Ford had some views not acceptable in our world. I also know he had what I call "slot enginnering brilliance on Mechanical stuff!" However, I am not interested in reading about other subject and in particular borderline political stuff on a Model A Forum! Please move on to what the Forum is for and talk about your Model A Ford.