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Old 03-08-2020, 06:11 PM   #41
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Australian 1935 Ford Roadster Ute at Hershey 2019 with spare wheel mounted incorrectly. It is at the bottom so that water can sit around the tube, and in time, if left sitting for a long time, can rust out badly.
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Old 03-08-2020, 07:00 PM   #42
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Talk about picking nits. There should be a service bulletin on this somewhere. Too bad we lost Larry (Mr. 34) Bailey a few years back.
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Old 03-10-2020, 06:04 AM   #43
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Factory Photo of 1934 Ford Sedan Delivery. Note the correct position of Valve - at the top. It also has a locking hubcap.
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Old 03-11-2020, 05:32 AM   #44
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Very nice Australian 1933 Ford with the spare wheel mounted incorrectly. The Valve should be at the top.
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Old 03-13-2020, 12:39 AM   #45
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1934 Ford with Kelsey Hayes 16 Inch Wire Wheel with Valve mounted in the incorrect position.
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Old 03-13-2020, 01:08 AM   #46
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Are you sure that's a Kelsey Hayes?
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Old 03-13-2020, 01:59 AM   #47
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As there were more spokes than the usual Ford 16" Wire Wheel, I just assumed that it was a Kelsey Hayes? I maybe wrong?
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Old 03-13-2020, 02:05 AM   #48
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Well the reason I set my valve stem at the top of my 33 mount, it saved my old back in bending down to check pressure.
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Old 03-13-2020, 02:11 AM   #49
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As there were more spokes than the usual Ford 16" Wire Wheel, I just assumed that it was a Kelsey Hayes? I maybe wrong?

Most, but not all are bent spoke.


Looking through a pa'ge book and ford bulletins. No mention of the stem direction. But I'd guess most were on the bottom for 35-36 rear and others for the most part. More so for 38-39 trucks as there was a locking bar.


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Old 03-13-2020, 02:58 AM   #50
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Look at post #12.The '36 spare tire cover face plate has the valve stem hole at the top. Post #45, that is an aftermarket adjustable spoke wheel and TMK not a Kelsey(way to many spokes).Ford spoke wheels had 32 spokes.Kelsey might have been a vendor for Ford-I do not know and if they were I'm sure that their wheel conformed to the Ford specs. The AFTERMARKET 16" Motor Rim & Wheel bent spoke has 36 spokes and the AFTERMARKET 16" bent spoke Kelsey has 40 spokes.

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Old 03-13-2020, 03:03 AM   #51
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I'll go look at my 36 tomorrow and see which way the outer shell is clocked and if I can change it on a 36. 36s were wide fives but yes. Not sure there was standard clock position But maybe. Might be a preference.
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Old 03-13-2020, 03:24 AM   #52
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I'll go look at my 36 tomorrow and see which way the outer shell is clocked and if I can change it on a 36. 36s were wide fives but yes. Not sure there was standard clock position But maybe. Might be a preference.

Only 1 way the face plate will sit right because of the hinged hubcap.Ford script would be upside down if the valve stem hole is at the bottom.
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Old 03-13-2020, 08:00 PM   #53
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okay I did a bit more looking. I don't want to get into any trouble with the Early Ford V8 Club of America posting here. Nothing in Ford bullets that I have address the spare directly. So buy the book. It's very decent. I might delete some images uploaded.


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That picture shoes the Vales at the top, which is the correct position. Thanks for posting.
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Old 03-14-2020, 08:28 AM   #55
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This is why I will only show my restored 35 to car shows that only have peopleís choice awards. Not to criticize the purestís but itís just not for me. I like driving my cars more than showing them so will never have one judged in an AACA or Ford show. I am glad there are those of you out there that swing that way, I have used your expertise many times on getting me through a problem so this not a gripe but rather just my position.


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Old 03-15-2020, 12:21 AM   #56
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Since most rear spare brackets have the studs placed in a triangle the drain concept wouldn't work ,going by post 23 it shows the drain of to the side instead of in the middle of the studs so there would always be a residue of water in there, maybe since the rear spare has the cap facing up its less likely to get water in it anyway .Maybe its meant for side mounts only ,as said there's a left and a right bracket that should place the wheel drain at the bottom providing you have the correct bracket ,
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Old 03-15-2020, 02:04 AM   #57
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That picture shoes the Vales at the top, which is the correct position. Thanks for posting.

Still need to get out and check my 36. "Valves" can be in different positions as shown. Buy the f'n book you cheap suckers . Not sure they say its definitive. Great publication. Link above. If you care do it. I might not be here to post it or care.

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Old 03-15-2020, 02:53 AM   #58
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Tinker,I bought the book in 1998.
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Old 03-15-2020, 02:55 AM   #59
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Just saying as we debate, the info is there. Not that I didn't add to a standard that exist. or anyone added imagery for a book reference, just their opinion. and my opinion... or just look it up... cheap entertainment for the next few months if they are in print and can get one.


Still think I could clock the outer locking hub to the tire shield. Ya im difficult.

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Old 03-15-2020, 01:30 PM   #60
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Fixed the 1935 wheel on my garage wall today. This came out a horse barn and when cleaning it off I did notice the hole for drainage but never thought why it was located where it was, learn something new almost everyday here.
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