The Ford Barn

dmsfrr · 07-18-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ncauclair

I took a photo of the number on the block below the distributor. ... I tried to post the engine photos here but it won't let me????

The "file size" of the photo has to be less than 2mb, to be able to upload it.

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darrell · 07-18-2019, 08:19 PM

its a 292 at least maybe 312

darrell · 07-18-2019, 08:26 PM

just forget that last one 272 can be dif or cf its 292 and 312 that are cf only.

streetdreams · 07-18-2019, 08:26 PM

There is a letter/number cast into the side of the block above the oil pan rail. If you see ECZ-xxxx-A or C, there is a good chance it is a 312. The only way for sure is to look on the crank flange for a flat spot with a dot in the center. Then it is a 312. Ford made both 292's and 312's on that same block in the last years of the 312, just machined the main bores to a larger size for 312's. John Mummerts website shows and explains all this in greater detail.

dmsfrr · 07-18-2019, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetdreams

... The only way for sure is to look on the crank flange for a flat spot with a dot in the center. Then it is a 312. Ford made both 292's and 312's on that same block in the last years of the 312, just machined the main bores to a larger size for 312's. John Mummerts website shows and explains all this in greater detail.

The dot on a 312 crankshaft, as streetdreams mentioned. (photo 1)
Main bearing caps for a 312 have an ECZ prefix casting number. All others are EBU.

Two links to the *ID a 312* pages on John Mummerts website...
http://ford-y-block.com/identify312.htm
http://ford-y-block.com/crankshaftid.htm

ncauclair · 07-19-2019, 06:47 AM

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I've been trying to post a photo of the engine. But it says my security token is missing? Dumb guy--don't know what that means. The photo isn't large MB?

dmsfrr · 07-19-2019, 10:34 AM

If you can send the photo to [email protected] I'll try to post it for you.
But it may a bit... I'm fairly busy today cleaning out a space in the garage for a car I'm leaving town to pick up tomorrow.

40cpe · 07-19-2019, 10:47 AM

Send it to [email protected] and I can get to it quickly.

40cpe · 07-19-2019, 01:03 PM

here are the pics.They were between 4.5 and 8.5 MB

streetdreams · 07-19-2019, 02:07 PM

Still cannot determine engine size. The cross over exhaust is early, but I've seen 312 long blocks under that old exhaust and lifter galley covers.

darrell · 07-19-2019, 02:13 PM

didnt know it was a truck engine.from what you can see its a 292 but things could be changed around.

40cpe · 07-19-2019, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by darrell

.from what you can see its a 292

What do you see that leads you to think it is a 292?

ncauclair · 07-19-2019, 03:29 PM

thanks for posting the photos-you're more computer savvy than I. I'm listing the engine for sale. What's a fair price? Part it out or as a whole? I live in Greenville VA. I have a couple of Ford trucks a 62 and 64 F 100s. Picked this engine up to put into the 62-- but we ended up rebuilding the one was that in it.

KULTULZ · 07-19-2019, 03:35 PM

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I'm listing the engine for sale. What's a fair price? Part it out or as a whole?

That's going to be hard to determine until the engine is identified.

Where is Greenville, VA?

ncauclair · 07-19-2019, 04:25 PM

Near Lexington and Staunton VA off of I 81. In the Shenandoah valley.

scicala · 07-19-2019, 04:44 PM

I can take a guess from the pictures, but a block and head casting number would help a lot. Heads are '56 or later. The distributor is '57 or later. Rocker arm adjusting nuts are '57 or later. The front cover has two flat machined bosses on top (I think that's truck ?).
If I guessed, I would say it's a truck 292 from '58 to the early 60's. Plus pretty sure they stopped building 272's after 1957.

Sal

scicala · 07-19-2019, 04:51 PM

I stand corrected. The 272 was still available in '58 and possibly '59 in trucks.

Sal

KULTULZ · 07-19-2019, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncauclair

Near Lexington and Staunton VA off of I 81. In the Shenandoah valley.

I should have known that. Born in Roanoke and am now a little above Martinsburg, WV (still trying to figure out how I wound up here in Yankee Country ...

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darrell · 07-19-2019, 05:20 PM

the 272 was used in early 58 and then was upped to 292.scicala pointed out why it should be a 292.the valley cover is 58 or newer.unless someone shifted things around its a 292.if we knew what heads we could figure the year.

KULTULZ · 07-19-2019, 06:41 PM

Let's guess the ENGINE ID with just a few picture ...

That engine could be any combination of parts over the service life of the FYB.

It has to be ID'd by the CASTING ID and DATE CODE NOS.

What if the OP tries to sell it using incorrect info and once the buyer puts it on a forensic table finds what it was described as isn't?

I feel like I am watching old I CAME NAME THAT TUNE TV shows ...

07-18-2019, 08:19 PM	#22
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine its a 292 at least maybe 312

07-18-2019, 08:26 PM	#23
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine just forget that last one 272 can be dif or cf its 292 and 312 that are cf only.

07-18-2019, 08:26 PM	#24
streetdreams Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Howell, Michigan, USA, The Peoples Slightly Overspent Demodependancy of Michigan Posts: 638	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine There is a letter/number cast into the side of the block above the oil pan rail. If you see ECZ-xxxx-A or C, there is a good chance it is a 312. The only way for sure is to look on the crank flange for a flat spot with a dot in the center. Then it is a 312. Ford made both 292's and 312's on that same block in the last years of the 312, just machined the main bores to a larger size for 312's. John Mummerts website shows and explains all this in greater detail.

07-19-2019, 06:47 AM	#26
ncauclair Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 10	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I've been trying to post a photo of the engine. But it says my security token is missing? Dumb guy--don't know what that means. The photo isn't large MB?

07-19-2019, 10:34 AM	#27
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine If you can send the photo to [email protected] I'll try to post it for you. But it may a bit... I'm fairly busy today cleaning out a space in the garage for a car I'm leaving town to pick up tomorrow.

07-19-2019, 10:47 AM	#28
40cpe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Star, MS Posts: 4,024	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine Send it to [email protected] and I can get to it quickly.

07-19-2019, 02:07 PM	#30
streetdreams Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Howell, Michigan, USA, The Peoples Slightly Overspent Demodependancy of Michigan Posts: 638	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine Still cannot determine engine size. The cross over exhaust is early, but I've seen 312 long blocks under that old exhaust and lifter galley covers.

07-19-2019, 02:13 PM	#31
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine didnt know it was a truck engine.from what you can see its a 292 but things could be changed around.

07-19-2019, 03:29 PM	#33
ncauclair Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 10	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine thanks for posting the photos-you're more computer savvy than I. I'm listing the engine for sale. What's a fair price? Part it out or as a whole? I live in Greenville VA. I have a couple of Ford trucks a 62 and 64 F 100s. Picked this engine up to put into the 62-- but we ended up rebuilding the one was that in it.

07-19-2019, 04:25 PM	#35
ncauclair Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 10	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine Near Lexington and Staunton VA off of I 81. In the Shenandoah valley.

07-19-2019, 04:44 PM	#36
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,698	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine I can take a guess from the pictures, but a block and head casting number would help a lot. Heads are '56 or later. The distributor is '57 or later. Rocker arm adjusting nuts are '57 or later. The front cover has two flat machined bosses on top (I think that's truck ?). If I guessed, I would say it's a truck 292 from '58 to the early 60's. Plus pretty sure they stopped building 272's after 1957. Sal

07-19-2019, 04:51 PM	#37
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,698	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine I stand corrected. The 272 was still available in '58 and possibly '59 in trucks. Sal

07-19-2019, 05:20 PM	#39
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine the 272 was used in early 58 and then was upped to 292.scicala pointed out why it should be a 292.the valley cover is 58 or newer.unless someone shifted things around its a 292.if we knew what heads we could figure the year.

07-19-2019, 06:41 PM	#40
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,466	Re: 292 312 Ford Engine Let's guess the ENGINE ID with just a few picture ... That engine could be any combination of parts over the service life of the FYB. It has to be ID'd by the CASTING ID and DATE CODE NOS. What if the OP tries to sell it using incorrect info and once the buyer puts it on a forensic table finds what it was described as isn't? I feel like I am watching old I CAME NAME THAT TUNE TV shows ... __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

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