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Old 01-14-2020, 09:14 PM   #1
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On my 1951 Ford F1 pickup truck there is a locking gas cap that didn’t come with a key. Actually, the truck didn’t come with a key either. After the locksmith was working on making a key for the ignition, he worked on the gas cap lock.

No luck

Anyone have any ideas? Drilling it out is a last resort as the locking cap is really cool!

How do impost a picture without having a url?

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Old 01-14-2020, 09:20 PM   #2
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If you have a photo file on your computer you do not need a url. There are several threads on posting photos.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:28 PM   #3
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Maybe try another locksmith? I had a door key made for a 50 F1. It took him about 30 minutes to make one. Should be the same process. Find the one in town that has been around the longest.

Those locking caps are tough to find.

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Old 01-14-2020, 09:30 PM   #4
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Here are some photo posting links:

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Old 01-14-2020, 09:34 PM   #5
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You can get a new one for $20. Not sure if it is just like original.

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Old 01-14-2020, 11:00 PM   #6
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A good locksmith should be able to pick the lock with some of his many lockpicking tools. Worry about a key later after he gets it open. Most locks can be picked. Regards, Kevin.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:58 PM   #7
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Thanks everyone. I will get going on all the suggestions
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Old 01-15-2020, 06:30 AM   #8
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One of my tool box lock keys fit my locking gas cap . It does require a little wiggling.
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Old 01-15-2020, 10:03 AM   #9
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One of my tool box lock keys fit my locking gas cap . It does require a little wiggling.
Interesting. Will try that
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Old 01-15-2020, 10:33 AM   #10
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I had a couple of nice vintage caps that had no keys. After researching their value, I decided it might be worth getting keys made. A local locksmith made them, but they weren't cheap. One of the caps is pictured here.
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:07 PM   #11
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I had a couple of nice vintage caps that had no keys. After researching their value, I decided it might be worth getting keys made. A local locksmith made them, but they weren't cheap. One of the caps is pictured here.
Cool. Thatís a nice locking cap
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:25 PM   #12
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Might check around for a spare key hidden somewhere. When I got my truck it had a nice Wise Lock cap on it and no keys. After drilling the cap to get it off I later found a spare key taped to the choke cable under the dash. Good luck!
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Can you remove the filler tube and snake the whole thing out? Might be easier then to at least to take it somewhere?
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This you also?


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Old 01-15-2020, 05:22 PM   #15
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Might check around for a spare key hidden somewhere. When I got my truck it had a nice Wise Lock cap on it and no keys. After drilling the cap to get it off I later found a spare key taped to the choke cable under the dash. Good luck!
Great idea
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:22 PM   #16
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Can you remove the filler tube and snake the whole thing out? Might be easier then to at least to take it somewhere?
Definitely
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Sedona48F1: just a shot in the dark (but it worked for me - similar situation): grasp the edges of the cap and pull upward hard while twisting counterclockwise. My local mechanic called it his "gas stealing secret." My cap came right off.....no damage.
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How times have changed. An old time locksmith would have a ring of “try out keys”. We had a 50 ish key set that fit 99% of all caps. If not we would pick the lock to remove it and hand impress a key on the bench. Never turned one away. This type of job was the meat and potatoes of business.
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Old 01-16-2020, 07:53 AM   #19
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Sedona48F1: just a shot in the dark (but it worked for me - similar situation): grasp the edges of the cap and pull upward hard while twisting counterclockwise. My local mechanic called it his "gas stealing secret." My cap came right off.....no damage.
Will try that. Thanks
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How times have changed. An old time locksmith would have a ring of “try out keys”. We had a 50 ish key set that fit 99% of all caps. If not we would pick the lock to remove it and hand impress a key on the bench. Never turned one away. This type of job was the meat and potatoes of business.
The locksmith has been in the business since the 70’s after service in Nam. He has 1000’s and 1000’s of keys. He sent one of his co-workers out with everything he needed. When a locking gas cap is seized up, well... it is seized up. It’s not like he didn’t try for a few HOURS. Seriously. Hours. When I bring it to a shop to try to get it started, I will pull the filler neck as someone nicely suggested and remove the cap from the inside once we get the lock off. The locksmith offered to make keys for it and the door, once the locks are in hand. For no additional charge! Kinda cool that he is still offering services and like you said “never turned away” even after they were up against a vehicle that I have no history on and how long it’s been sitting.

I’m sorry that I didn’t include all that info up front in the first post and give the complete story. So it’s not like this thing was running the day before and they just lost the keys the day before I bought it. Which may have been worse. lol
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