Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-17-2021, 06:24 PM   #1
Jakno
Senior Member
 
Jakno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Maine
Posts: 324
Default 59A Starting issue

I have a 1935 pickup which has been giving me problems starting the engine.

The problem is erratic and happens more on cold starts than warm. When the starter is engaged and the engine turns over multiple times without a hint of starting, as soon as I lift off the starter button the engine will fire. Doesn't do it everytime, maybe one out of three times. If your quick enough you can catch it but more often than not it's too late.

The 59A engine is a new rebuild with new carb, sparkplugs. distributor. coil &
condenser. I use an 8 volt battery and the generator is currently charging at approx 9V. After getting the engine started it runs fine.

Would anyone have any advice. Thanks
__________________
Lineman, the only dumb animal that can harness himself !!
Jakno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2021, 07:27 PM   #2
drolston
Senior Member
 
drolston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 1,273
Default Re: 59A Starting issue

Sounds like the starter is drawing down the voltage at the battery enough to prevent a spark. The instant you get off the starter button, the voltage pops back up but the engine will continue turning on inertia long enough for it to kick off.

To confirm this, put a volt meter on the battery side of the coil and see how much it drops when cranking. A bad starter can cause this, but the problem is often cable internal corrosion and/or bad connections at the battery, starter solenoid, starter terminal, ground straps, etc.
drolston is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 06-17-2021, 07:52 PM   #3
Jakno
Senior Member
 
Jakno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Maine
Posts: 324
Default Re: 59A Starting issue

drolston, thanks for that information. Having a place to start is encouraging. Would you happen to know an estimate of what the starter should draw for amperage ?.
__________________
Lineman, the only dumb animal that can harness himself !!
Jakno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2021, 05:36 AM   #4
big job
Senior Member
 
big job's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Dighton, Mass
Posts: 1,090
Default Re: 59A Starting issue

What kind of coil? a beer can coil does not require a resistor. Just for kicks put a
jumper wire coil to battery and try that. It should be running as fast as you hit the
start button. mine does and its 6volt too. Not need 8 volts, if all is correct it will
whip over like it has 12 volts..sam
big job is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2021, 10:22 PM   #5
drolston
Senior Member
 
drolston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 1,273
Default Re: 59A Starting issue

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakno View Post
drolston, thanks for that information. Having a place to start is encouraging. Would you happen to know an estimate of what the starter should draw for amperage ?.
I do not know the amperage draw for your starter, but it is a good question. What is important is the voltage drop, and the amount of voltage drop is directly proportionate to the current draw.

Start with the cables and connections. If any cable shows green fuzz at the ends where you can see the wire you can be pretty sure the cable is corroded internally, and should be replaced. They aren't cheap, so maybe check cables and across connections with an Ohmmeter. Any cable or connection over one Ohm is very suspect.
drolston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2021, 05:18 AM   #6
aussie merc
Senior Member
 
aussie merc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: sydney australia
Posts: 483
Default Re: 59A Starting issue

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
knowing your ignition setup would help but it sounds like what the others are saying and you have an electronic distributor /ignition control while these units are good they are very sensitive to voltage i would get your battery load tested as its sounds like its starting to fail and collapsing under load
aussie merc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2021, 12:24 PM   #7
Jakno
Senior Member
 
Jakno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Maine
Posts: 324
Default Re: 59A Starting issue

Thanks for all your sound advice. Just to clarify some of the issues raised , I do have a rebuilt crab dist from Charlie with a new NAPA coil he recommended. Carb is a new Stromberg. The ignition switch is repro stock. I have run a 6 volt battery and to be honest it runs as good as the 8 V battery,
Something happened yesterday after I had sent my initial post about starting hard which may be related. Driving home after a 3 mile run the motor suddenly quit and the wires attached to the ignition switch on the steering column started smoking a burning.
Got the truck home and found loose wires attached to the switch. Also found the same overheated wires on the generator.
Havent got the motor to start yet but I can engage the starter.
I plan on replacing and cleaning all the ground wires & connections. Any thoughts on what I should or should not do are welcomed . Thank You
__________________
Lineman, the only dumb animal that can harness himself !!
Jakno is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53 AM.