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02-22-2013, 01:15 PM | #1 |
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1939 Ford Package Tray Question
I am trying to build the package tray for a 1939 Ford Coupe and have a reference 1940 Coupe for comparison. The wooden piece for 1940 Ford package tray fits in place nicely (it's an original). With the package tray installed, it is 1" short of covering the middle wooden piece and 2 7/8" short on each side. Since the reference car and my car are both in pieces, neither the owner nor I know what fills this gap. What information am I missing to complete this part of my build?
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02-22-2013, 04:51 PM | #2 |
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Re: 1939 Ford Package Tray Question
That seems odd as the wooden package tray is a one piece item that fits snug as a bug in a rug. could you make a cardboard template and then make a new piece of "tray wood"? Look at this.
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02-22-2013, 05:04 PM | #3 |
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Re: 1939 Ford Package Tray Question
I have already made the cardboard template, the problem is the template, which was based on an original piece, is to short (in my opinion) therein causing a lot of head scratching. As mentioned, the template AND the original are both 1" short of the middle wood brace and 2 7/8" short on the sides. I could just extend my new piece to fit but I would prefer to know what was there originally. The reference 1940 Coupe has the same problem and he wants to know how it was originally put together also.
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02-22-2013, 05:20 PM | #4 |
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Re: 1939 Ford Package Tray Question
If it's not too much trouble post a photo with the cardboard template in place so as to show the problems you speak of. In the cars with the package tray and the bench seat there is a piece of wood that runs across the width of the car on top of the package tray. The collapseable material between the package tray and the top of the seat is fastened to this piece of wood. Could that space be for the wood?
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02-22-2013, 06:54 PM | #5 |
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Re: 1939 Ford Package Tray Question
There was a similar post a few weeks back with pictures.
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02-23-2013, 12:53 PM | #6 |
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02-23-2013, 06:39 PM | #7 |
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I know you are sure, but are you REALLY certain that the "original" package tray shelf you have hasn't been altered somewhere in its life? Or perhaps the guy at the factory in 1939 was having a bad day when he cut it out. In any case, I would go ahead and make your own package tray that does fit. It really won't hurt anything or detract from the install of your interior and noone will ever tell the difference. Another (not so good) idea would be to gently tap the sheet metal so that it moves inward to match your "original tray.
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If you move it forward to meet the support wood, (or further), and create an equal gap all the way around, wouldn't that gap allow for the interior trim? In other words, would the shelf go in after the car is trimmed? My 40 had all that stuff taken out and a little seat fitted.
Sorry, I'm guessing, but your car is bare, it has no trim. I suppose the question I am asking is whether the shelf goes in before or after trim?? Mart. |
02-24-2013, 04:40 AM | #10 |
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Re: 1939 Ford Package Tray Question
19Fordy - Yes I am certain this is an original piece. The '40 Ford coupe it came out of was put away 0ver 40 years ago (just drove in a garage and parked) and it is an extremely fine example of an original. The owner just tore it apart and is beginning to work on it but since he didn't "take notes" doesn't remember how it came apart.
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Is it at all possible that the package tray shelf you have was a leftover from 1938? To answer another question: The package tray goes in after the interior of the car has been installed.
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So, if the curve appears to fit nicely, I'd suggest you cut another board, same curve but extend 1" forward. The width you'd offered was correct at 53 3/4". You mention yours is considerably short on each side. If that is the case, there is something amiss within the metal (package tray) framing of your car.
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My thanks to Kube for all the help he gave me in successfully resolving this issue.
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Re: 1939 Ford Package Tray Question
Mart, the photos/information Kube provided me gave me the answer to my question. The framing is made up of 4 pieces (see first photo), this I knew because my reference '40 has them in it. My package tray is correct (see second photo), my reference '40 had those also. What I didn't have was the final 2 pieces that fit vertically from the framing to the floor. These 2 panels (see photo 2) are 1/8the - 3/16ths fiber board and seem to be sandwiched (at the top) with 2 each 1 x 2's. From what I can see in the photo, the 1" side is placed next to the panel (one on each side) and attached (glue/screw and clamp). With this basic information of what the entire structure consists of I can now duplicate (with a little cutting/fitting) the entire package tray. The specifications I will be using are already in this Post so I won't be repeating them, the panels are available through Wescott but I will probably just measure/cut and make my own, it doesn't seem that difficult. Hope this helps.
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I stand corrected on the wood that sandwiches the panel board. According to an email I received, they are not 1" x 2" pieces, they are 1" x 1". I don't know if this is correct but the person emailing me seemed pretty sure that those are the correct dimensions. And they are different lengths but they didn't say what that measurement was.
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I think in this picture you can see why one is longer than the other. Note the hole at the very top? That's the longer of the two. The shorter of the two goes rearward and slips under the metal channel that the package tray bolts to. The long piece, attaches to a brace integral of the inner body with a 1/4" flat head bolt. The inner side upholstered panels get nailed to the board facing forward. the cardboard panels within the trunk get nailed to the board facing rearward.
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Thank goodness for "Kube".
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