Model A Garage & Heat???

[msmaron]

I know this is not really car related but i have 110v in my garage located near the ceiling and need to heat it. it is a 3 car can can anyone recommend a good 110v heater that will heat the garage just comfortable to work in? Any suggestions would help...
thanks


PS YES i know 240 is the way to go, but are there any 110v that will work out there?

[Jerry Parr WI]

It's a matter of watts. At 110 you will need at least a 40 amp circuit if the garage is well insulated. 50 would be better. I'm going to guess you do not have a circuit that large so will need bigger wire. At that point go to the 220.

A single heater that size will not be large enough to bring a cold garage to reasonable temperature the same day. I had a 2 car garage that even with 2 heaters at 5000 watts (30 amp @ 220) took some time to heat up. Remember you have a concrete floor and a car or two that have to be heated from ?

Given the price of electricity vs gas in your area consider a gas heater. It costs less to over size it so it will bring the temperature up fast and operating costs will be way less.

[Steve Ciccalone]

Mark, for the past two years and currently on, I'm using a single EdenPure quartz 110V heater. My garage is a metal 30'X40', 13' peaked roof. It is sheet rocked and insulated, R19 walls, 38 ceiling and 17.5 door. It has kept the garage above freezing even in subzero outside temps. As it heats objects and not car, the cars and motorcycles actually become "radiators". Typically at 10F outside, it will be 40F inside. It adds about $125 to my Ebill per month but I have no real fire hazard with it and like the idea that I don't have a gas, oil or kerosene fired unit. I have it on a table, about three feet off the floor.

[A-Jay]

Mark, you need a 240 volt if residential 30 or 40 amp circuit and lots insulation at least for 3 bays . I would guess that if all you have is 110 volt then the circuit is 20 amps or less. Check out this link. The Qmark ceiling units work great but need more power than you presently have.

http://www.heater-home.com/category/garage.aspx

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by Steve Ciccalone

Mark, for the past two years and currently on, I'm using a single EdenPure quartz 110V heater.

Steve which is the exact unit you are using please
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[J Franklin]

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Look into Quartz infrared type heaters they are made in 110 volt units and can be used while you are working in the garage. They give off a radiated heat like the sunlight. They won't heat the structure much but makes your body feel more comfortable like out in the sun on a cold day.

[Gumpy]

what about cost to run the quartz infrared?

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by J Franklin

Look into Quartz infrared type heaters they are made in 110 volt units and can be used while you are working in the garage. They give off a radiated heat like the sunlight. They won't heat the structure much but makes your body feel more comfortable like out in the sun on a cold day.

Yea i am looking into the gen4 model which is the most powerful one.
seems that is just might do the job???

[Jason in TX]

http://www.mrheater.com/

Look around this site for different ideas. I went propane convection heater. Toasty!

[Steve Ciccalone]

Mark, I've been running a Gen3. I just bought a Gen4 for use in the house while it is being rebuilt. The 3 has been good. Next year I'll use both of them in there.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Steve, I am unfamiliar with these type units. What makes them actually heat, and do you run them all the time during the winter? I realize you guys in Chicago and in the New England states are much akin to an Eskimo Warrior but I must digress that I would have trouble making my fingers work if the inside garage temps were only 40 degrees!! <brrrrrr>

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[Bruce in southern OH]

Propane suppliers have wall mount units ( thermostat built in ) that do not require any electric, have several people that have them in well insulated building/garage and have a cheap 110V box fan on floor/ceiling fan to circulate air on other side of building/garage, works well and if you have power outages the propane unit continues to work.

[eeyore]

please keep in mind co2 fumes with a fuel heat.

[Thom IV]

I use one of those wall mounted propane heaters. I think it's the cats meow. I have two 40# propane bottles in a locked locker on the outside of my work shop. One 40# bottle will last a week. Once the room gets to 65, I turn the heater to low and it maintains the temp all day. Building is well insulated. This morning when I got the car out for church, outside temp was 10 degrees. inside it was 33 degrees. Works well for me.

[Gord. B by the bay]

Also Keep in mind CO which is deadly Most Propane and Natural gas use the "sealed combustion" wall units which take the combustion air from outside to a sealed combustion heat exchanger then exhaust back outside, no air is taken from inside the building for combustion or venting. Many sizes and makes to chose from and very economical to operate. CO is a product of incomplete combustion and CO2 is a product of complete combustion.
Happy New Year 2011
Gord. B by the Bay

[Gerard]

Originally Posted by eeyore

please keep in mind co2 fumes with a fuel heat.

Not only that propane will also generate a lot of moisture, I considder it DANGEROUS to have this in a garage .

[Marvin/TN]

I have been using a wall mounted Direct Vent gas heater in my small (30 X 34) paint and body shop for over 30 years. No danger at all, no open flame, no combuston by products in the shop, burns no room air, and is vented outside. It has two fans to move the heated air around. I bought it from Sears but don't think they sell them anymore but pretty sure Granger does. It only cost me a couple $100 a year to operate using it (Propane) 40 or more per week. It is finially time to replace it and will replace it with the same kind.

[glenn in camino]

Forgive me for bragging, but in the process of building my Model A garage, I bought a radiant heating system from Radiantek.com in Vermont. They shipped it to me and my contractor and I installed it before the floor was poured. It's heated by a high efficiency water heater powered by propane. The tank is outside. It stays 65 degrees in my garage 24/7, even when it's in the 20s outside, with no fan blowing air and dust and with no flames or noise. I wish I had it in my house. I highly recommend radiant heat for any new building.

[BrianCT]

The Edanpure heats the air inside it's cabinet and then blows it around the room. So in fact it is not much better than a $40 milk house heater with a filter.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by glenn in camino

Forgive me for bragging, but in the process of building my Model A garage, I bought a radiant heating system from Radiantek.com in Vermont. They shipped it to me and my contractor and I installed it before the floor was poured. It's heated by a high efficiency water heater powered by propane. The tank is outside. It stays 65 degrees in my garage 24/7, even when it's in the 20s outside, with no fan blowing air and dust and with no flames or noise. I wish I had it in my house. I highly recommend radiant heat for any new building.

Glenn, what do you expect your water heater is using per month in propane? Does the burner cycle on quite a bit as it is circulating or does the water make several cycles through the floor before the burner has to reheat the water? Do you expect fuel consumption is about the same as what your house water heater uses?

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