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oldforder · 02-08-2018, 12:31 PM

Figured since I just got this car (29 Tudor) that I should grease and oil everything. It kinda looks like most everything has been greased lately, but I am going over it all again, so I KNOW it has been done. I figured that the clutch splines hadn't been done for probably a long time, but I don't know how many pumps from a grease gun I should give it.

Jim Brierley · 02-08-2018, 12:35 PM

Don't grease the splines, it will cause the clutch to slip or grab, also the T.O. brg. doesn't need any.

oldforder · 02-08-2018, 12:42 PM

There is a zerk there and the "book" says to grease it every 2000 miles.

BillCNC · 02-08-2018, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Brierley

Don't grease the splines, it will cause the clutch to slip or grab

How's that, are you saying excessive grease flying around or any grease at all?

I have alway's rubbed grease on the splines in other cars, but I always wipe 80% of it back off. I started doing this back in the 70's because a few trany splines I've had before looked pretty dry and galled.

Regards
Bill

100IH · 02-08-2018, 12:54 PM

The original T/O bearings had a pathway for the grease to get to the interior of the bearing but not the shaft splines for good reason. Most or all newer bearings are sealed with no pathway to the bearing. You'd only be greasing the sliding carrier for the T/O bearing and it probably is not a big issue. Too much grease there would/ could become an issue.

oldforder · 02-08-2018, 01:08 PM

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Ok, I gave it a couple pumps, and will button it back up and call it good for a couple years at least, as I will put very few miles on it.

1930-Pickup · 02-08-2018, 01:14 PM

Don't forget that many books and lube charts were written a long time ago. Lubes are much better today than in 1930, so the 're-lube' or 'change' interval can be significantly extended past the numbers you read.

Jim Brierley · 02-09-2018, 01:09 PM

Being rather on the thrifty side, I have never bought a new T.O. bearing. When I have the engine or trans out I remove the bearing from the collar it's mounted on, clean the outside thoroughly, force grease into the bearing by using a wheel brg. packer, and re-install. Good as new!

Ed in Maine · 02-09-2018, 04:12 PM

While you are at it, use the correct grease for the water pump and do not put too much into it because you will load up your radiator. I personally do not lubricate the rear bushing while the pump is on the car but I do remove the water pump, grease it and remove any excess and reinstall the pump. Ed

02-08-2018, 12:31 PM	#1
oldforder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Columbus Nebraska Posts: 171	greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. Figured since I just got this car (29 Tudor) that I should grease and oil everything. It kinda looks like most everything has been greased lately, but I am going over it all again, so I KNOW it has been done. I figured that the clutch splines hadn't been done for probably a long time, but I don't know how many pumps from a grease gun I should give it.

02-08-2018, 12:35 PM	#2
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,087	Re: greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. Don't grease the splines, it will cause the clutch to slip or grab, also the T.O. brg. doesn't need any.

02-08-2018, 12:42 PM	#3
oldforder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Columbus Nebraska Posts: 171	Re: greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. There is a zerk there and the "book" says to grease it every 2000 miles.

02-08-2018, 12:54 PM	#5
100IH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 970	Re: greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. The original T/O bearings had a pathway for the grease to get to the interior of the bearing but not the shaft splines for good reason. Most or all newer bearings are sealed with no pathway to the bearing. You'd only be greasing the sliding carrier for the T/O bearing and it probably is not a big issue. Too much grease there would/ could become an issue.

02-08-2018, 01:08 PM	#6
oldforder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Columbus Nebraska Posts: 171	Re: greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Ok, I gave it a couple pumps, and will button it back up and call it good for a couple years at least, as I will put very few miles on it.

02-08-2018, 01:14 PM	#7
1930-Pickup Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: southern California Posts: 725	Re: greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. Don't forget that many books and lube charts were written a long time ago. Lubes are much better today than in 1930, so the 're-lube' or 'change' interval can be significantly extended past the numbers you read. __________________ *"That's my wild unsubstantiated guess, and I'm sticking to it regardless of the facts!"*

02-09-2018, 01:09 PM	#8
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,087	Re: greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. Being rather on the thrifty side, I have never bought a new T.O. bearing. When I have the engine or trans out I remove the bearing from the collar it's mounted on, clean the outside thoroughly, force grease into the bearing by using a wheel brg. packer, and re-install. Good as new!

02-09-2018, 04:12 PM	#9
Ed in Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cty., ME or Flagler Cty., FL Posts: 1,106	Re: greasing the clutch shaft/throw out bearing. While you are at it, use the correct grease for the water pump and do not put too much into it because you will load up your radiator. I personally do not lubricate the rear bushing while the pump is on the car but I do remove the water pump, grease it and remove any excess and reinstall the pump. Ed