2 door phaeton project, how much is it worth

[updraught]

No worries ... I'm short and sweet.

[Hoogah]

Here’s a photo from the RG&JS, if it helps for comparison.

[Digger]

Anyone know of comps for prices of a 31 two door Phaeton? Asking prices or actual sold cars?

[gustafson]

Raw or restored?

For a restorer, it will cost an arm and a leg to restore it, so your starting outlay needs to be below 10K. Of course you can buy a fully restored slant, tudor, coupe etc. for about 15K or less. This is not an expensive line of cars, with the exception of but a few models. Anyone who can afford a fully restored one is gonna have enough cash to get into a higher end marque of cars. Model As were built for the masses, just like the T

For a buyer of a restored 2-dr phaeton, there will be none, because it will be too expensive

The true value of any car, or anything else for that matter, is simply what someone is willing to pay

sorry to burst your bubble

[Digger]

Comps of any sort or condition would be great.

[Hoogah]

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Originally Posted by gustafson

Raw or restored?

For a restorer, it will cost an arm and a leg to restore it, so your starting outlay needs to be below 10K. Of course you can buy a fully restored slant, tudor, coupe etc. for about 15K or less. This is not an expensive line of cars, with the exception of but a few models. Anyone who can afford a fully restored one is gonna have enough cash to get into a higher end marque of cars. Model As were built for the masses, just like the T

For a buyer of a restored 2-dr phaeton, there will be none, because it will be too expensive

The true value of any car, or anything else for that matter, is simply what someone is willing to pay

sorry to burst your bubble

Don’t forget that we humans are funny creatures. Often the heart rules the head. Most of us aren’t here to make a profit, but for the love of it.

[ronn]

comps you say?

15-20k unrestored if you can find one

done 40-60k depending what done means.......

this model doesnt exist and is extremely rare.

[Digger]

So I was able to buy the two door Phaeton for a collector friend of mine in Texas. It will be heading that way in about a month for a full restoration. I did a little more research, and it has its original engine, car was built in September of 1931. The family says they may have the body tag somewhere too and hopefully a little history.

After looking at photos on line of fully restored ones, they sure are a beautiful car.

[Dave Slater]

The new owner needs to join the 2 door phaeton club and get the newsletter devoted to the 2 door phaeton. One can get a download of all the previous newsletters via Email when he joins. Get in touch with Ross Milne in Canada. If you can't locate him send me a Email. [email protected]

[art ebeling]

I cant tell by the pictures if it has an indented firewall. Shouldn't a Sept 31 car have an indented firewall?

[ronn]

yes, it should have an indented firewall-but is it from south America?

[john charlton]

As a previous poster said it was RHD the cutout can still be seen in the cowl. If it is 1931 it was one of 143 built at Fords Buenos Aries plant in Argentina, 166 were built in 1930 .I have the same car also, all complete but in poor state. I think I am very lucky for indeed it is the Holy Grail !!! I really should make a start on it soon .

John in sunny Suffolk County England.

[ronn]

John,
in your neck of the woods, a right hand drive is a wonderful thing. Here in America, not so much. Most guys here prefer an original left hand drive, but considering the rarity of the body style..............

[Digger]

No concern to the new owner, he knows the difference and is thrilled, that is all that matters. He also has Early Ford V8s from South America.

[john charlton]

Hi Ronn , my son and I have 6 vehicles on the road running and driving . 3 are LHD and 3 are RHD (not converted) We would not convert LHD to RHD as no gain as nobody in UK
cares which side the steering wheel is on .LHD is easy to drive here as they are narrow with good visibility . In Europe RHD is disliked as there is a stigma attached as so many worn out cars have come in from South America, they mostly get converted.

John

[Digger]

So a few follow up questions on this model:

In 1931 did they make standard AND Deluxe two door Phaetons?

If so, how many of each, and how can you tell the difference?

Regarding left or right hand drive, was the firewall identical for all units, with solid metal where the steering column would go on both sides, and then the proper one was cut out based where it was made, leaving the other side in tact?

[Bob C]

All two doors were Deluxe, the four door was the Standard.


Bob

[ronn]

Well John,
Americans are pretty funny about which side the steering is on. I too own a RHD phaeton and love it!


But you know, we never adapted to soccer either!

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Bob C

All two doors were Deluxe, the four door was the Standard.


Bob

Originally Posted by Digger

So a few follow up questions on this model:

In 1931 did they make standard AND Deluxe two door Phaetons?

If so, how many of each, and how can you tell the difference?

Regarding left or right hand drive, was the firewall identical for all units, with solid metal where the steering column would go on both sides, and then the proper one was cut out based where it was made, leaving the other side in tact?

It probably is easier to use Ford's bodystyle numbers for clarity. The 'Standard' Phaeton was actually termed the 35B whereas the Deluxe Phaeton was the 180A. Google will be your friend when you search, and then you will easily distinguish the difference between the two bodies.


The A-35328-C Dash Assy. (-no such thing as a firewall) was the same for all US manufactured Model-A and Model-AA bodies however they were different by part number for export models.

[john charlton]

Hi Ronn we never adapted to base ball . Here it is called "rounders" and played by school girls mainly , It is the same game with bases etc etc . the girl behind the batter doesnt wear a funny hat maybe the balls are softer. I love my RHD 28 phaeton too, English country lanes in the summer with no top cant be beat. My car has the small bore AF engine and the AF 4.55 rear end so trickles along in top gear at just above walking pace so you can enjoy the scenery !!!

John