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Synchro909 · 08-27-2018, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Peters

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't run air filters at all. We never run on gravel roads, so no dust. When you start your car with full choke, gas will drip from the carburetor. With a filter, that gas will accumulate in the filter body. If the engine happens to backfire, it will start that gas on fire. Safety issue.

Huh??? On ANY warm, dry day there will be dust on any road. Henry built the Model A as cheaply as he could. An air cleaner only prolonged the life of the engine, a benefit not realised till well after the car had been sold so not of much benefit to him Adding one would add to his expenses - something he fought hard to avoid.
I ask "If air cleaners are so useless, why does every modern car have one??"Same with oil filter. I agree that the wiere mesh type air "stainer" is near useless. I run a paper element filter mounted on the radiator stays and wouldn't consider going without one. It is very difficult to install any air filter because of the steering column. Very poor design.

old31 · 08-27-2018, 08:05 PM

Like Ernie, I also use the K&N filter and I drilled a couple of very small holes in the bottom in case gas filled up in there.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 08-27-2018, 08:25 PM

Most any wire mesh will stop a flame in it's TRACKS!
Bill Safe

Tom Wesenberg · 08-27-2018, 11:22 PM

Coat the wire mess by soaking it in oil and letting it drip, then install it. Oil traps and holds the dirt until you rinse it out in kerosene.

katy · 08-28-2018, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ernie Vitucci

Good afternoon...K & N makes a filter that will fit on your 'A'. It is much more fire resistant. I did drill a 3/16th drain in mine and it has been working just fine for a number of years...Ernie in Arizona

Got a picture to share? And/or a part #?

Ted Duke · 08-28-2018, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by slammin

That was back when you could get the engine rebuilt for a few hundred dollars. Price having that work done today.

LOL Back when NO one had a few hundred dollars including the wall street tycoons.

160B · 08-28-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by katy

Got a picture to share? And/or a part #?

Here is a photo of the K&N I use on an original air maze.

CB919ER · 08-28-2018, 10:59 AM

I don't run a filter, the roads are cleaner today than they were in the 20s

old31 · 08-28-2018, 05:15 PM

i have the exact setup as 160.

Synchro909 · 08-28-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 160B

Here is a photo of the K&N I use on an original air maze.

Thoise things are as useless as flyscreens for a submarine. They CANNOT be fitted here. The steering column is in the way and I'd prefer steering!

160B · 08-28-2018, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909

Thoise things are as useless as flyscreens for a submarine. They CANNOT be fitted here. The steering column is in the way and I'd prefer steering!

Not sure what you feel is worthless as a fly screen. This is a K&N air filter installed with an air maze housing, the original screen is not used.

And yes this is not suitable for a RH drive Model A due to the steering box interference.

SAJ · 08-29-2018, 05:43 AM

Here are my K&N filters. RHD car so I fabricated right angle adaptors at full cross section out of sheet metal as shown in the third pic.
Some (most or Many???) say they are ugly. The oil filter certainly is. I think the more upturned one is cheekily cute! They catch a lot of dirt even on tarsealed roads. And I still get the same 22 to 24 mpg (larger imperial gallons) on a trip at 55 to 60 mph.
SAJ IN UK at present
PS I just noticed the glass filter bowl in the second pic is half full of water. I had a faulty tank cap, since fixed!

BILL WILLIAMSON · 08-29-2018, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CB919ER

I don't run a filter, the roads are cleaner today than they were in the 20s

Then how come filters in MODERN cars get FILTHY???
Bill W.

Y-Blockhead · 08-29-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Then how come filters in MODERN cars get FILTHY???
Bill W.

How come the K&N on my Model A gets FILTHY???

I usually have my engine pans on also. K&N I use. You will have to extend the Air Maze rod.
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Originally Posted by SAJ

Here are my K&N filters. Some (most or Many???) say they are ugly. The oil filter certainly is.

If you use a WIX filter they don't show as much as they are painted black. Or paint your white one black or Ford green.

SAJ · 08-29-2018, 10:28 AM

Y-Blockhead, the ones like yours that point down are not as ugly either. I have not found the correct adaptor in NZ so far. Plus I am always in a hurry to fit a new filter and get going. I forget to paint them and wait for them to dry. Plus again a vertical one can be filled right up before running. I can only fill mine about 2/3 full before fitting.
Then again oil pressure registers within seconds of start up on a new filter on my gauge.
When I get back to NZ I will make a concerted effort to find 2 right angle adaptors for my oil filters............maybe.
SAJ in Cornwall UK

Synchro909 · 08-29-2018, 06:08 PM

SAJ, I think vendors sell the adaptor you want. That said, I have grafted in right angled adaptors from other cars before today.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 08-30-2018, 12:10 PM

I've seen Argentina cars, with home made plumbing & an Early Ford Oil Bath air cleaner, mounted at the right front of the engine
Bill W.

Mike V. Florida · 08-31-2018, 12:29 AM

It was tired of being teased by the other Model A's and ran away.

08-27-2018, 08:05 PM	#22
old31 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,098	Re: Filter GONE! Like Ernie, I also use the K&N filter and I drilled a couple of very small holes in the bottom in case gas filled up in there.

08-27-2018, 08:25 PM	#23
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Filter GONE! Most any wire mesh will stop a flame in it's TRACKS! Bill Safe __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

08-27-2018, 11:22 PM	#24
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Filter GONE! Coat the wire mess by soaking it in oil and letting it drip, then install it. Oil traps and holds the dirt until you rinse it out in kerosene.

08-28-2018, 10:59 AM	#28
CB919ER Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 114	Re: Filter GONE! I don't run a filter, the roads are cleaner today than they were in the 20s

08-28-2018, 05:15 PM	#29
old31 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,098	Re: Filter GONE! i have the exact setup as 160.

08-29-2018, 10:28 AM	#35
SAJ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 515	Re: Filter GONE! Y-Blockhead, the ones like yours that point down are not as ugly either. I have not found the correct adaptor in NZ so far. Plus I am always in a hurry to fit a new filter and get going. I forget to paint them and wait for them to dry. Plus again a vertical one can be filled right up before running. I can only fill mine about 2/3 full before fitting. Then again oil pressure registers within seconds of start up on a new filter on my gauge. When I get back to NZ I will make a concerted effort to find 2 right angle adaptors for my oil filters............maybe. SAJ in Cornwall UK

08-29-2018, 06:08 PM	#36
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Filter GONE! SAJ, I think vendors sell the adaptor you want. That said, I have grafted in right angled adaptors from other cars before today. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

08-30-2018, 12:10 PM	#37
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Filter GONE! I've seen Argentina cars, with home made plumbing & an Early Ford Oil Bath air cleaner, mounted at the right front of the engine Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

08-31-2018, 12:29 AM	#38
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Filter GONE! It was tired of being teased by the other Model A's and ran away. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II