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[fordlovr]

Hi, This 39 pedal assembly is missing something? A bush? collar?whats missing? or do I have some miss matched parts?cheers

[Ken/Alabama]

Bushing . Check the condition of the shaft also. The shaft is a press fit in the housing. New shafts and bushings are available.

[40cpe]

The brake pedal on a '39 is connected to the shaft that runs through the bracket. The clutch rod is actuated off the inner (transmission) end of that shaft. Your pedal seems to have the clutch actuator on the clutch pedal base like a '40.

[deuce lover]

What are the part numbers on those pedal arms and bracket?If 39 Ford,should all begin with 91A.

[texas webb]

How does one remove the shaft the pedals mount on?I have a set from a 42-47 truck,seems like there is a pin on the right end.Thanks,Webb.

[Kube]

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That bracket is wrong. It appears to be from 1940+

[Kube]

Originally Posted by texas webb

How does one remove the shaft the pedals mount on?I have a set from a 42-47 truck,seems like there is a pin on the right end.Thanks,Webb.

If it is pinned, you'll need to remove it (the pin). I've never seen a shaft pinned in place. Rather, all the ones I've worked on were simply pressed in to place.

[texas webb]

Thanks,Kube.There seems to be a pin thru the body,both ends have a crosshatch pattern on the tops.I'll try to get a picture,thanks again.

[V8COOPMAN]

AS others have said above, you have a mix-match of pieces. As Kube said, that bracket is '40-'48.

1939 brake/clutch assembly is a one-year-only affair. The pic below shows all the parts in a '39 assembly. The numbers on '39 pedals and bracket all begin with 91A. I'm sure that bracket you show in YOUR picture begins with 01A (1940-'48). DD

1939 PEDALS

[fordlovr]

Originally Posted by Kube

That bracket is wrong. It appears to be from 1940+

Well there you go then, all these years I thought I had a 39 pedal assembly! It's numbered 09AF-2467.

[deuce lover]

09A prefix is 40 Mercury, I believe.

[fordlovr]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

AS others have said above, you have a mix-match of pieces. As Kube said, that bracket is '40-'48.

1939 brake/clutch assembly is a one-year-only affair. The pic below shows all the parts in a '39 assembly. The numbers on '39 pedals and bracket all begin with 91A. I'm sure that bracket you show in YOUR picture begins with 01A (1940-'48). DD

1939 PEDALS

Thanks for that, clutch pedal is 91a. oh well ,back to the drawingboard. Cheers

[V8COOPMAN]

This is turning-out to be a little bit interesting. It just now dawned on me that you're from New Zealand. Am I correct in assuming that RIGHT HAND Drive was the norm down there around 1940? When you first posted the part number for that bracket, it's interesting to note that nobody seemed to notice the "F" as in 09A"F"-2467. That "F" probably designates RHD (Right Hand Drive). I was looking at your bracket a little more closely in your pictures. By golly, I believe it is a mirror-image of an American LHD bracket, as it would have had to bolt-on to the opposite side of the frame from American LHD. As far as the pedals you have, who knows? The "09A" definitely indicates 1940 Mercury. Let us know what the numbers on the two pedals are, and maybe we can figure-out what you have. Here are some numbers that COULD be on your parts with an explanation.

Prefixes: 91A-1939 passenger cars and LIGHT pick-ups
01A-1940 passenger cars and 1940+1941 Light pick-ups.
09A-1940 Mercury passenger cars.
99A-1939 Mercury passenger cars

Suffixes: -2467...brake/clutch BRACKET
-2455...brake Pedal
-7520...clutch Pedal

You already have a picture of a LHD 1939 pedal assembly. Below is a picture of a 1940 LHD pedal assembly. Yours appears to have it's mounting surface slanted in the opposite direction for mounting on the opposite (RHD) side of the chassis. DD

[DavidG]

Not just probably, but definitely the 'F' at the end of the part number prefix designates RHD application.

[Mart]

I'm coming in a bit cold on this, but now it has been mentioned, yes, you can see it is set up to fit on the right hand side of the frame X member. The thing is, though, in a RHD car, the pedals are not a mirror image of the more familiar 39 ford USA type, because the pedals are laid out in the same order, Clutch, brake, accelerator from left to right. That means the clutch pedal does not need to be monkey motioned inboard of the brake. On a RHD the clutch pedal more naturally aligns with the clutch release linkage.

So we need RHD specific input here, the normal LHD thinking does not apply.

Mart.

[q81a]

According to an English parts list that i have, the RHD bracket pedals and shaft all have
part numbers with a 91AF prefix. However the pedal assembly i have, has C91AF on the
clutch pedal. It would seem every time you think you,ve found the answer, you end up
with another question.

Edwin

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by q81a

According to an English parts list that i have, the RHD bracket pedals and shaft all have
part numbers with a 91AF prefix. However the pedal assembly i have, has C91AF on the
clutch pedal. It would seem every time you think you,ve found the answer, you end up
with another question.

Edwin

Unless someone has more-difinitive info, that "C" in your prefix is usually associated with CANADIAN manufacture. Therefore, your C91AF would de-code as:

C........Canadian-built
9........1939
1........Ford
A........Passenger car and light pick-up
F........RHD application

[blucar]

I read the original text of the thread, looked at the pix and the origin of the contributor, New Zealand, then came to the conclusion that the peddle assembly was for a right-hand drive 39 Ford.
Except for V8COOPMAN, a whole lot of verbiage and miss-information.

[fordlovr]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Unless someone has more-difinitive info, that "C" in your prefix is usually associated with CANADIAN manufacture. Therefore, your C91AF would de-code as:

C........Canadian-built
9........1939
1........Ford
A........Passenger car and light pick-up
F........RHD application

Thanks to everyone. A great help. Brass bush hard to get, Mac's $4.95 and $90 to get hit here! Convert that to NZ Dollars and its a whole lot more!Might try and make something. Part's hard to get here. cheers

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by fordlovr

Thanks to everyone. A great help. Brass bush hard to get, Mac's $4.95 and $90 to get hit here! Convert that to NZ Dollars and its a whole lot more!Might try and make something. Part's hard to get here. cheers

At $90 for shipping, I'd be especially reluctant to order that from Mac's with their rep for quality-fitting parts. Those bushings have been almost impossible to get for years for '39 pedals. This may be worth checking out.......someone said that MacVanPelt currently has them.....I WOULD trust what VanPelt has to say. DD