170-A/165-B delimma...

[Steve Plucker]

In May of 1929, sent the Ford production department the following letter:


Briggs proposed a change in the 2-W design (60-B and C) as Ford visited the Briggs plant to view the new model (170-A). The letter went on to say: “We (Briggs) also showed them (Ford) a two-window job (170-A) of the same general dimensions as the three-window job (165-B). To enable us to put this job into production (the 170-A) at the same time as the three-window job (165-B) it would mean only a small die expense that we agree to absorb, and in view of the fact that it (165-B) would be longer, wider and better appearing than the two-window job (170-A) that we are going into production on this month, we feel that the job (165-B) shown Mr. Ford would be more desirable to you”. Authentically Speaking by George DeAngles and Edward Francis, Model A News Vol. 14, No. 1, p. 6, 1967.

So here is the question...was the above statement about the 165-B being "longer and wider" than the 170-A correct? OR...Am I missing something?

OR was the 170-A "longer and wider than the 60-B and C body types?

Thanks.

Pluck

[jimalabam]

??? Jim Langley...

[Roadster62]

I think the 60C (Steelback) is shorter, I have a nice back half and it is easy to measure things if you need me to. Lets use the door jamb to rear glass as the standard measurement. Bob

[Russ]

The 60-C (& A, B) are shorter than the 170-A. The attached photo shows a comparison (note the difference in the shape of the rear quarter). As a side note, the best way to tell a 60-A, B, & C from other cars like the 170-A is to look at the bolt hole pattern on the rear of the car where the spare bracket mounts (not the pattern on the carrier where the spare wheel mounts). The 60-A/B/C has a unique 4-bolt rectangular pattern while the others have a 3-bolt triangle.

[Roadster62]

Russ, Could you post the photos in a normal way, I'd like to see them. Bob

[Russ]

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Reposting 170-A vs. 60-A,B,C file as a .jpg.