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06-10-2019, 05:12 PM | #1 |
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oil in cylinder
What would cause one cylinder to ingest oil like this? Install rings backwards?
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06-10-2019, 06:45 PM | #2 |
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Re: oil in cylinder
Yes, I bet it's ring related. Is the cylinder wall scored? Broken ring?
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06-10-2019, 07:22 PM | #3 |
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Re: oil in cylinder
Hmmmmm . . . if you have the typical 3-piece oil ring setup (2 rails and an expander), they can't go in backwards - there is no orientation. You didn't happen to check the compression before you pulled the heads did yah? I'd want to know if that cylinder was holding compression the same as the others. If the oil isn't coming by the rings, then the next obvious place is through the intake guide. It looks like it is the rear cylinder, so I'm wondering if your engine has the oil baffles installed in the valley area? Maybe you're throwing a lot of oil up into the valley - and a "loose" guide or one with no seals on it is pulling oil into the cylinder? What type of crankcase breather system are you running? Is it a stock 49-53 setup with the oil draft tube . . . or???? Just some things to think about . . .
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06-10-2019, 07:34 PM | #4 |
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It is three ring pistons and I did not check compression. I will pull the intake and check the valve guide. also, I am using a PCV system that ports into the vacuum port on an Offenhauser regular dual intake. Thanks for your input. |
06-10-2019, 07:43 PM | #5 |
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Are you running a late style 49-53 manifold that uses a PCV in place of the road-draft tube? The later system works bass-akwards from the earlier pre-49 system - lots of folks mix-match parts and then their whole breathing/venting system is compromised.
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06-10-2019, 08:07 PM | #6 |
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06-10-2019, 08:25 PM | #7 |
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Re: oil in cylinder
That's a lot of oil sitting in there. How's the piston crown look? Jack E/NJ
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06-10-2019, 09:25 PM | #8 |
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What's with those dings I see in/on the top of the piston?....
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06-11-2019, 08:01 AM | #9 |
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Re: oil in cylinder
It is the '49-'53 style manifold with the PCV in the road draft port.
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06-11-2019, 08:06 AM | #10 |
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06-11-2019, 09:04 AM | #11 |
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So does that mean the plug broke off and banged around the cylinder? I think what we're getting at here is there perhaps a hole or crack thru the piston crown? Jack E/NJ
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06-11-2019, 12:41 PM | #12 |
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Re: oil in cylinder
It looks as if it was firing which I wouldn't think possible with all that oil in the hole . Is it the stock cam , any vacuum port to that intake runner ? Is the motor level , meaning in its stock location and not raised excessively in the front ? Was the oil level correct ? Not relying on the dipstick but on amount installed .
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06-12-2019, 07:41 AM | #13 |
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Upon further investigation, It appears to be the result of a gunky PCV valve and a little over fill oil level. Waiting for new head gaskets to verify.
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06-12-2019, 08:13 AM | #14 |
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>>>What would cause one cylinder to ingest oil>>>>?
>>>>It appears to be the result of a gunky PCV valve and a little over fill>>> But then shouldn't more than just that one cylinder be affected? Jack E/NJ |
06-12-2019, 01:36 PM | #15 |
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When a cylinder is passing oil by the rings a little will make carbon chunks, cover the top of the pistons , a little more will start washing the piston top clean around the edges, a lot of oil will wash the pistons clean
I have seen oil rings missing, the expander ends overlapping, pieces of rings broke off due to installation problems, std rings in .080 bores---- if that much oil is going in through the intake from the pcv there will be wet oil in the intake and port |
06-12-2019, 03:53 PM | #16 |
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Yep. Seems like a pretty clean and oily piston top & exhaust path. Intake not so much. Jack E/NJ
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