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Fordman487 · 03-21-2017, 08:05 AM

Can anyone share an opinion about weather or not to have the machine shop install adjustable lifters in my '35 rebuild? I've heard pro's and con's and am looking for feedback from the Ford Barn folks......

Thanks!

alanwoodieman · 03-21-2017, 08:21 AM

install quality adjustable lifters, even used are better than having to grind the valve stems to set the adjustment. be sure to drill the lifter bores to aid in adjustment

GOSFAST · 03-21-2017, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fordman487

Can anyone share an opinion about weather or not to have the machine shop install adjustable lifters in my '35 rebuild? I've heard pro's and con's and am looking for feedback from the Ford Barn folks......

Thanks!

If you go adjustable use ONLY the original "Johnson" tappets, nothing else. They are still available from the original mfr.

We normally purchase them by the "trays" still.

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. Try to avoid any lifters listed as "Johnson-Style" these are not the originals and may be and most likely are off-shore products!

4t8v8 · 03-21-2017, 08:45 AM

Put my adjustable tappets in 33 years ago and haven't touched them since. When I put my 4bbl intake on 10 years ago I checked them. Didn't have to adjust any of them. As GOSFAST said - only use the "Johnson's".

Kube · 03-21-2017, 11:09 AM

Post #2 and #3 are spot on.
The modern adjustable lifters are simply (in my opinion) not worth the risk of installation. I have personally come upon a number of them that were soft and had they been installed, would have certainly failed rather quickly. Fortunately I knew to check them and the the proper means to do so.
I have heard but not personally experienced that many modern replacements are poorly made and as such will not hold their settings.

I am all for adjustable lifters but as has advised in previous posts, locate "good -used" or buy directly from Johnson.

bruce lee · 03-21-2017, 11:35 AM

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I didn't know you can still get lifters from Johnson. Does anyone how their contact info. And how sure are you all that they don't have them made overseas to save money too?

KiWinUS · 03-21-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bruce lee

I didn't know you can still get lifters from Johnson. Does anyone how their contact info. And how sure are you all that they don't have them made overseas to save money too?

Gary GOSFAST has them in stock !
PM him

JSeery · 03-21-2017, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bruce lee

I didn't know you can still get lifters from Johnson. Does anyone how their contact info. And how sure are you all that they don't have them made overseas to save money too?

I ran it down a year or so ago, but don't remember all the details. It was a little funny, because the gentleman I talked to had worked there forever and knew what I was referring to, but said he had not heard anything about them for years! I had a part number and he looked it up and said, damn we do still sell them!

Charles Brock · 03-21-2017, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JSeery

I ran it down a year or so ago, but don't remember all the details. It was a little funny, because the gentleman I talked to had worked there forever and knew what I was referring to, but said he had not heard anything about them for years! I had a part number and he looked it up and said, damn we do still sell them!

What is the part number and contact info for Johnson?
Thanks

JSeery · 03-21-2017, 12:24 PM

Ok, found the old post, here are some quotes from it:

http://www.nopi.com/dsp_makesv.php?vv=799

From the TopLine site: In 2004, Hylift-Johnson Lifters was purchased as a division of TopLine Automotive Engineering. The previous Hylift O.E. lines that were in Zeeland, MI have now been relocated to the Muskegon plant. These high quality flat mechanical tappets, lash adjusters, buckets and encapsulated hydraulic roller lifters are being produced by the original Hylift machines and team. The same people that brought you “The Beautiful Lifter” are back manufacturing with precision and a dedication to quality that has not been seen in the lifter business for quite a few years. We feel the real value is not in the equipment or the plant but with the employees who have over 600 years of Hylift experience. Topline Hylift Johnson will continue its historical way of going to market by traditional means of distribution through a select group of customers.

OK, here is the story. Called NOPI and the counter guy said no one had ask for flathead lifters in years, last he could remember was in the 60s! LOL But, he did some checking and yes they do have them!

$14.85 each or $237.60 for a set of 16 and $248.60 with shipping. Normal shipping is two days. $11 for shipping doesn't sound to bad, they are fairly heavy for there size.

Part #B2032

Phone number 1 800-277-6674 then Est #1
Talked to Bobby, very friendly and helpful!!!

Company is NOPI and division is TopLine.

tubman · 03-21-2017, 12:37 PM

I find the last paragraph on the "Topline" web site referenced by "JSeery" to be quite interesting. Also the fact that the links to the images appear to be broken. I think it means : "Get 'em while you can, boys!".

BillM · 03-21-2017, 02:06 PM

The Topline site now doesn't show the B-2032 lifter, just the A-2032 which looks like its not hollow. http://www.showmetheparts.com/topline/

JSeery · 03-21-2017, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BillM

The Topline site now doesn't show the B-2032 lifter, just the A-2032 which looks like its not hollow. http://www.showmetheparts.com/topline/

That's not what I get:

TOPLINE Engine Compartment > Cam Follower/Lifter

Unit of Measure: EA
Part Number: 125+0455
Mfg Part Number: B-2032
Sugg. Retail Price $52.93
*
$31.76 NOPI Price
*
Phone: 800-277-6674
Email: Sales

But there is not an image, so not sure about solid or hollow.

papanomad · 03-21-2017, 02:54 PM

cgm motorsports advertise real johnson adjustable lifters. are they real johnson lifters?

tubman · 03-21-2017, 03:02 PM

NOPI price $31.76; that's over $500 for a set of lifters (with shipping)! Add in another $500 for a set of ARP head studs, washers and nuts and you don't even have a good start. Now you can see why flatheads are so expensive to build!

tubman · 03-21-2017, 03:07 PM

Here's what it says in the CGM Motorsports ad on eBay : "Don't get caught up in hollow lifters light weight Don't forget they are full of oil which is weight!!" They do say the are made in the USA by Hylift-Johnson. It also says only a limited quantity available. More and more it looks like the end may be coming. The good news is these guys only want $219 a set.

Ronnie · 03-21-2017, 04:02 PM

The lifter discussion has been beaten to death. Read on

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-C...pe=&as_rights=

R

fordwife · 03-22-2017, 07:48 AM

On the 59AB I recently rebuilt I used the old non adjustable lifters, and very carefully ground each valve stem using a set of go-no go guages. It takes time to do it , but once its done right you should never have to adjust them again until the engine needs valve work , and it saves a lot of money.

Tim Ayers · 03-22-2017, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fordwife

On the 59AB I recently rebuilt I used the old non adjustable lifters, and very carefully ground each valve stem using a set of go-no go guages. It takes time to do it , but once its done right you should never have to adjust them again until the engine needs valve work , and it saves a lot of money.

I have a question about this. After some miles, does this gap widen due to wear?

barnfind08 · 03-22-2017, 08:41 AM

I still have regular lifters $48.00/16 and $8.00 usps. for anyone that wants to go that route.

03-21-2017, 08:45 AM	#4
4t8v8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 524	Re: Adjustable Lifters Put my adjustable tappets in 33 years ago and haven't touched them since. When I put my 4bbl intake on 10 years ago I checked them. Didn't have to adjust any of them. As GOSFAST said - only use the "Johnson's".

03-21-2017, 11:09 AM	#5
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 8,990	Re: Adjustable Lifters Post #2 and #3 are spot on. The modern adjustable lifters are simply (in my opinion) not worth the risk of installation. I have personally come upon a number of them that were soft and had they been installed, would have certainly failed rather quickly. Fortunately I knew to check them and the the proper means to do so. I have heard but not personally experienced that many modern replacements are poorly made and as such will not hold their settings. I am all for adjustable lifters but as has advised in previous posts, locate "good -used" or buy directly from Johnson. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

03-21-2017, 11:35 AM	#6
bruce lee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Nipomo ca. Posts: 132	Re: Adjustable Lifters Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I didn't know you can still get lifters from Johnson. Does anyone how their contact info. And how sure are you all that they don't have them made overseas to save money too?

03-21-2017, 12:24 PM	#10
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Adjustable Lifters Ok, found the old post, here are some quotes from it: http://www.nopi.com/dsp_makesv.php?vv=799 From the TopLine site: In 2004, Hylift-Johnson Lifters was purchased as a division of TopLine Automotive Engineering. The previous Hylift O.E. lines that were in Zeeland, MI have now been relocated to the Muskegon plant. These high quality flat mechanical tappets, lash adjusters, buckets and encapsulated hydraulic roller lifters are being produced by the original Hylift machines and team. The same people that brought you “The Beautiful Lifter” are back manufacturing with precision and a dedication to quality that has not been seen in the lifter business for quite a few years. We feel the real value is not in the equipment or the plant but with the employees who have over 600 years of Hylift experience. Topline Hylift Johnson will continue its historical way of going to market by traditional means of distribution through a select group of customers. OK, here is the story. Called NOPI and the counter guy said no one had ask for flathead lifters in years, last he could remember was in the 60s! LOL But, he did some checking and yes they do have them! $14.85 each or $237.60 for a set of 16 and $248.60 with shipping. Normal shipping is two days. $11 for shipping doesn't sound to bad, they are fairly heavy for there size. Part #B2032 Phone number 1 800-277-6674 then Est #1 Talked to Bobby, very friendly and helpful!!! Company is NOPI and division is TopLine.

03-21-2017, 12:37 PM	#11
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,303	Re: Adjustable Lifters I find the last paragraph on the "Topline" web site referenced by "JSeery" to be quite interesting. Also the fact that the links to the images appear to be broken. I think it means : "Get 'em while you can, boys!".

03-21-2017, 08:05 AM	#1
Fordman487 Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 69	Adjustable Lifters Can anyone share an opinion about weather or not to have the machine shop install adjustable lifters in my '35 rebuild? I've heard pro's and con's and am looking for feedback from the Ford Barn folks...... Thanks!

03-21-2017, 08:21 AM	#2
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: Adjustable Lifters install quality adjustable lifters, even used are better than having to grind the valve stems to set the adjustment. be sure to drill the lifter bores to aid in adjustment

03-21-2017, 02:54 PM	#14
papanomad Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: clear lake, iowa Posts: 157	Re: Adjustable Lifters cgm motorsports advertise real johnson adjustable lifters. are they real johnson lifters?

03-21-2017, 03:02 PM	#15
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,303	Re: Adjustable Lifters NOPI price $31.76; that's over $500 for a set of lifters (with shipping)! Add in another $500 for a set of ARP head studs, washers and nuts and you don't even have a good start. Now you can see why flatheads are so expensive to build!

03-21-2017, 03:07 PM	#16
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,303	Re: Adjustable Lifters Here's what it says in the CGM Motorsports ad on eBay : "Don't get caught up in hollow lifters light weight Don't forget they are full of oil which is weight!!" They do say the are made in the USA by Hylift-Johnson. It also says only a limited quantity available. More and more it looks like the end may be coming. The good news is these guys only want $219 a set.

03-21-2017, 04:02 PM	#17
Ronnie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Where it snows Posts: 2,058	Re: Adjustable Lifters The lifter discussion has been beaten to death. Read on https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-C...pe=&as_rights= R

03-22-2017, 07:48 AM	#18
fordwife Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 287	Re: Adjustable Lifters On the 59AB I recently rebuilt I used the old non adjustable lifters, and very carefully ground each valve stem using a set of go-no go guages. It takes time to do it , but once its done right you should never have to adjust them again until the engine needs valve work , and it saves a lot of money.

03-22-2017, 08:41 AM	#20
barnfind08 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 893	Re: Adjustable Lifters I still have regular lifters $48.00/16 and $8.00 usps. for anyone that wants to go that route.