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hotrodderhaag · 11-06-2012, 07:55 PM

My dad surprised me today.... Now Remember I'm only 25, he called and said I bought ya a hand crank for your model a on eBay... It showed up today... It has the lug wrench on one end and crank on the others. I personally have never seen one .. So I brought it home and even after my car has been sitting about a month from all the rain and cold weather ,opened the side panel , pulled the choke and it fired right up on the third revolution of the hand crank... I have many antique hand start tractors ... But starting my car that way was really cool..

Tom Wesenberg · 11-06-2012, 08:01 PM

Hand starting is a great backup, and I used it often on my 1949 Chevy 1 1/2 ton truck. I wonder what the last car was to offer a hand crank? My early 60's Renault Douphine still has it.

dumb person · 11-06-2012, 08:35 PM

Morris had them up to 1974.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 11-06-2012, 08:43 PM

Re: Crank.
I walk Krookedy & am Kranky, yet I have trouble getting MYSELF started in the A.M. Suggestions??????? Bill W.

jkeesey · 11-06-2012, 08:56 PM

Bill I dont wanna know where you put the crank

KCTA Chris · 11-06-2012, 08:58 PM

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I cut the lug off and mounted mine permanently on my "A".
Seems like I crank it every couple days of driving just for fun.

The funny looks you get almost rival those when pouring gas into the cowl/tank.

2manycars · 11-06-2012, 09:31 PM

MG had a hand crank up to 62.

columbiA · 11-06-2012, 09:35 PM

A 59 Hillman I had years ago would always start on the coldest days with the crank.When useing the A as my daily driver in the 50,s I would crank it quite often when the temp was down to -20* or more.

hotrodderhaag · 11-06-2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTA Chris

I cut the lug off and mounted mine permanently on my "A".
Seems like I crank it every couple days of driving just for fun.

The funny looks you get almost rival those when pouring gas into the cowl/tank.

People in my town look at me like I'm getting gas completely naked when i stuff the nozzle on the cowl. It cracks me up...

BILL WILLIAMSON · 11-06-2012, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkeesey

Bill I dont wanna know where you put the crank

J, Where did you learn to be FUNNY?
I try, but-------------- You don't know, but MAYBE I have a crank bearing block TATOOED on my FOREHEAD! =0= ha!! Bill W.

Farrell In Vancouver · 11-07-2012, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by columbiA

A 59 Hillman I had years ago would always start on the coldest days with the crank.When useing the A as my daily driver in the 50,s I would crank it quite often when the temp was down to -20* or more.

Wow when the question was posed all I could think of was our 59 Hillman Minx! Seem you had one too? Wonder how many Hillman's were sold in BC?

Bruce Lancaster · 11-07-2012, 09:48 AM

The British in general had little faith in batteries...probably a combo of Lucas batteries and those parking lights they had to leave on.
Along with the cranks, they had hand levers on the fuel pump to prime the works...
I too have some experience flogging Hillman Minxes and Huskies...

Bruce Lancaster · 11-07-2012, 09:54 AM

Last American car with hand crank...??
All I can say is that my '48 Ford has one; by '48, the hand crank had to be requested and was no longer part of the general issue tool kit, but all cars had the hardware necessary to use it. My car came with the crank because it was an export car.
As far as I know, the crank hardware was all usable on F series Ford trucks '48-52 but was extra equipment available from dealer...?

Frank Miller · 11-07-2012, 11:45 AM

Harley had kick starters until 84 or 5 even though they went electric in 65. The common thing between the two is if the spark is advanced an arm or a leg can get broken from the kickback.

Chris Haynes · 11-07-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Miller

Harley had kick starters until 84 or 5 even though they went electric in 65. The common thing between the two is if the spark is advanced an arm or a leg can get broken from the kickback.

I have been ridin' Harley' since the early sixties. Kickstart magneto models. I have never seen or heard of anybody breakin' a leg kickstartin' their Hog.

SoCal_Alden · 11-07-2012, 01:11 PM

Like Tom W, My Renault's (Caravelle, Dauphine & Gordini) and Triumph (66 TR4 A) hand cranked to start. Especially useful back when I was on a low budget and batteries were too $$$.
Interesting read: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...win-a-new-car/

ba49 · 11-07-2012, 01:32 PM

I fractured my foot on my stroked Sportster in the 70s. It had a Shovelhead top end and a 4 13/16" stroke with 11 1/2 to 1 compression. It had a Fairbacks-Morris magnito and would sometimes kick back. It would lift me right off the kickstarter if I forgot to retard the timing before kicking it. It didn't have an electric starter. I broke the arch in my right foot when it kicked back. I actually bent 2 stock kick levers 90 degrees and broke the sprocket cover where the kick shaft came through it. They actually started making heavy duty kick levers for Sportsters back then and this finally cured the bent lever problem.
There also used to be a thing called Sportster knee caused by hyper-extending your knee when the kicker ratchet slipped as you jumped on the kicker. I limped for several years after I sold the bike. Aw the good old days :-). The guys I hung with back then would call you a sissy if you used an electric start on a Harley.
Bill

jkeesey · 11-07-2012, 07:09 PM

Bill I still call people a Sissy for using electric start.

Slowplane · 11-07-2012, 10:21 PM

I kick my Indian, prop my T-craft, and crank my A

columbiA · 11-07-2012, 10:43 PM

Before I was able to afford a new battery for a 32 Chev back when I was a teenager,and had no crank,I used to jack up a rear wheel,put the car in high gear & turn the wheel to start.It worked well when I couldnt park on a down hill grade.

11-06-2012, 07:55 PM	#1
hotrodderhaag Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Mooresville Nc Posts: 137	Model a hand crank My dad surprised me today.... Now Remember I'm only 25, he called and said I bought ya a hand crank for your model a on eBay... It showed up today... It has the lug wrench on one end and crank on the others. I personally have never seen one .. So I brought it home and even after my car has been sitting about a month from all the rain and cold weather ,opened the side panel , pulled the choke and it fired right up on the third revolution of the hand crank... I have many antique hand start tractors ... But starting my car that way was really cool..

11-06-2012, 08:01 PM	#2
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Model a hand crank Hand starting is a great backup, and I used it often on my 1949 Chevy 1 1/2 ton truck. I wonder what the last car was to offer a hand crank? My early 60's Renault Douphine still has it. Last edited by Tom Wesenberg; 11-06-2012 at 09:51 PM.

11-06-2012, 08:35 PM	#3
dumb person Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South pacific island Posts: 1,724	Re: Model a hand crank Morris had them up to 1974.

11-06-2012, 08:43 PM	#4
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Model a hand crank Re: Crank. I walk Krookedy & am Kranky, yet I have trouble getting MYSELF started in the A.M. Suggestions??????? Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

11-06-2012, 08:56 PM	#5
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: Model a hand crank Bill I dont wanna know where you put the crank

11-06-2012, 08:58 PM	#6
KCTA Chris Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 142	Re: Model a hand crank Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I cut the lug off and mounted mine permanently on my "A". Seems like I crank it every couple days of driving just for fun. The funny looks you get almost rival those when pouring gas into the cowl/tank.

11-06-2012, 09:31 PM	#7
2manycars Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern CT Posts: 2,732	Re: Model a hand crank MG had a hand crank up to 62.

11-06-2012, 09:35 PM	#8
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: Model a hand crank A 59 Hillman I had years ago would always start on the coldest days with the crank.When useing the A as my daily driver in the 50,s I would crank it quite often when the temp was down to -20* or more.

11-07-2012, 09:48 AM	#12
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Model a hand crank The British in general had little faith in batteries...probably a combo of Lucas batteries and those parking lights they had to leave on. Along with the cranks, they had hand levers on the fuel pump to prime the works... I too have some experience flogging Hillman Minxes and Huskies...

11-07-2012, 09:54 AM	#13
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Model a hand crank Last American car with hand crank...?? All I can say is that my '48 Ford has one; by '48, the hand crank had to be requested and was no longer part of the general issue tool kit, but all cars had the hardware necessary to use it. My car came with the crank because it was an export car. As far as I know, the crank hardware was all usable on F series Ford trucks '48-52 but was extra equipment available from dealer...?

11-07-2012, 11:45 AM	#14
Frank Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn, MA Posts: 2,106	Re: Model a hand crank Harley had kick starters until 84 or 5 even though they went electric in 65. The common thing between the two is if the spark is advanced an arm or a leg can get broken from the kickback. __________________ “The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is true.” ~ Ezra Pound

11-07-2012, 01:11 PM	#16
SoCal_Alden Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 76	Re: Model a hand crank Like Tom W, My Renault's (Caravelle, Dauphine & Gordini) and Triumph (66 TR4 A) hand cranked to start. Especially useful back when I was on a low budget and batteries were too $$$. Interesting read: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...win-a-new-car/

11-07-2012, 01:32 PM	#17
ba49 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sheffield Lake, Ohio Posts: 137	Re: Model a hand crank I fractured my foot on my stroked Sportster in the 70s. It had a Shovelhead top end and a 4 13/16" stroke with 11 1/2 to 1 compression. It had a Fairbacks-Morris magnito and would sometimes kick back. It would lift me right off the kickstarter if I forgot to retard the timing before kicking it. It didn't have an electric starter. I broke the arch in my right foot when it kicked back. I actually bent 2 stock kick levers 90 degrees and broke the sprocket cover where the kick shaft came through it. They actually started making heavy duty kick levers for Sportsters back then and this finally cured the bent lever problem. There also used to be a thing called Sportster knee caused by hyper-extending your knee when the kicker ratchet slipped as you jumped on the kicker. I limped for several years after I sold the bike. Aw the good old days :-). The guys I hung with back then would call you a sissy if you used an electric start on a Harley. Bill

11-07-2012, 07:09 PM	#18
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: Model a hand crank Bill I still call people a Sissy for using electric start.

11-07-2012, 10:21 PM	#19
Slowplane Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sonora desert, Arizona Posts: 290	Re: Model a hand crank I kick my Indian, prop my T-craft, and crank my A

11-07-2012, 10:43 PM	#20
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: Model a hand crank Before I was able to afford a new battery for a 32 Chev back when I was a teenager,and had no crank,I used to jack up a rear wheel,put the car in high gear & turn the wheel to start.It worked well when I couldnt park on a down hill grade.