Maybe the wrong place for this but. . .

[ford nut]

i'm trying to get my ford 8 inch rear ready to go under my 36 but problems keep coming up. I bought this rear end for 50.00. great price, but one of the axles was missing, then they found it and shipped it to me. that cost 100.00. still ok to me. it had no drums, but I had some NOS drums left over from a project that ended up getting discs, so I want to use them on this project, but the register hole is to small. should I enlarge the hole, or turn down the super big, heavy duty axle hub? why it so big? here's some pics.

[Karl Wescott]

If I remember correctly when we put brakes on my roadster 8" rear end I had a similar situation. Again IRRC the 8" has a larger register hole than the 9" and the offset from hub to brake shoe is different, and there are different brake shoe diameters so you could have two drums of the same diameter for 8" and 9" that do not interchange. Check with a good parts store and have them pull parts to check.

[George/Maine]

Yogis May still have CE kits They didn't stop me if I were to buy.

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1936-40 Ford Dual Leaf Rear Spring Kit $570
CE They are good kits.

[Ken/Alabama]

If it were mine I'd find the correct drums.

[George/Maine]

If you have rear end 57.25" You could have a 9" That rear has dimples
If its a 8" 57.25 Its a Mustang 1965 1966
59.25 is Mustang Fairlane Comet Cougar

[Ggmac]

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A 9" bottom bolt can only be removed with a box end a socket will hit the pinion bearing support . A 8" all bolts can be removed with a socket .

[Lanny]

I think Ford changed the axle flange size in '68.
Went from 2 3/8" to 2 3/4" from what I remember,
and the corresponding center hole in the wheels too.
















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[ford nut]

this is a 8 inch for sure. I have two others that have the smaller axle hub. it's 57-1/2 from axle flange to axle flange, measurement taken without drums. to me, this one seem earlier. the pumpkin is not the odd looking one with less ribs cast into it though, I think I have a pic of the 8 inch my 56 f100 I can put up. you can see the smaller register hub that my other two have, and the later style pumpkin that all three are.

[donald1950]

if it is out of a Maverick, there is one from a car with front disk brakes and one from a front drum brakes. the difference is one has the larger hole on the drums and larger register for the drum on the axle. drums for both can be purchased at NAPA parts. when i put an 8" under my 50 i had purchased an axle with the larger registers and so the 50 wheels (bolt pattern 5x4.5 is the same but the center register was too large for the regester of the 50 wheels) would not fit. i purchased 2 new drums with teh correct center holes and had a machine shop machine cut the center register to fit the drums and all was fine.

[37 Cab]

The Maverick housing is 56 1/2 wide.

[ford nut]

Originally Posted by donald1950

if it is out of a Maverick, there is one from a car with front disk brakes and one from a front drum brakes. the difference is one has the larger hole on the drums and larger register for the drum on the axle. drums for both can be purchased at NAPA parts. when i put an 8" under my 50 i had purchased an axle with the larger registers and so the 50 wheels (bolt pattern 5x4.5 is the same but the center register was too large for the regester of the 50 wheels) would not fit. i purchased 2 new drums with teh correct center holes and had a machine shop machine cut the center register to fit the drums and all was fine.

i'm not clear, you bought new drums that fit, AND had the axle turned down? wouldn't the new drums fixed the problem?

[40cpe]

I THINK what he intended to say is that he bought new drums with the smaller register holes and had the axle registers cut down to fit the smaller hole in the drums.
(note the emphasis on "think")

[ford nut]

Originally Posted by 37 Cab

The Maverick housing is 56 1/2 wide.

maybe mine's not a maverick. that why I just say 8 inch and the width. I wonder why ford felt the need to have the two sizes of register hubs. I read one article that showed axles just like mine and said they were 63 galaxy. that doesn't sound right to me.

[George/Maine]

If you had 63 axles they would stick out 2" on each side.
Do you know if the axles fit the chuck and are you sure its a 8"
Put the axles in and measure see if 57.250
You may have 1957 to 1959 and that's a 9"
Lets see pic of chuck

[JSeery]

What the hell is a chuck? Been rebuilding rear ends most of my life and never heard that term.

[donald1950]

40cpe is correct. had i used the axles and drums with the stock 50 wheels would not fit. as you show in your pictures the smaller hole of the brake drum would not clear the register of the axle. so i got the correct size drums and machined the axle. the 8" came in all kinds and years of different cars. the Maverick had the correct wheel spacing for my 50 passenger car. only after relocating the spring pads and a new ring and pinion did i find out about the difference with the axles and did not want to change the wheels to match the axles, so that was the simplest fix. when i did an 8" for a 53 car did i get the correct differential the first time.

when i did the T5 transmission on my 41 pick up i used the stock differential and just converted it to open drive with the transverse stock spring. if i had to do that over again i would use an 8" or 9" and use a Chassis Engineering parallel spring kit. would have made that swap much simpler....

[ford nut]

8 inch! i'll sing it from the mountain! 8 inch! here's pics of thee axle project i'm work on.

[Ford Freak]

Originally Posted by JSeery

What the hell is a chuck? Been rebuilding rear ends most of my life and never heard that term.

I believe he means the 3rd member . I have heard of them reffered to as a "chunk" . Oh well........F F

[ford nut]

Originally Posted by JSeery

What the hell is a chuck? Been rebuilding rear ends most of my life and never heard that term.

3rd member, or pumpkin. I've heard some call it chunk. .and I have a friend named chuck, but I don't think he knows that.

[JSeery]

Well, learned something new! Never heard a third member called a chunk.

[George/Maine]

Its like soda or pop 8 or 9 should have tipped you off.
Its 1965 1966 Mustang But its all apart do axles fit.
You need the CE kit do that first.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by George/Maine

Its like soda or pop 8 or 9 should have tipped you off.
Its 1965 1966 Mustang But its all apart do axles fit.
You need the CE kit do that first.

Clear as mud, now! This explains everything!! DD

[ford nut]

Originally Posted by George/Maine

Its like soda or pop 8 or 9 should have tipped you off.
Its 1965 1966 Mustang But its all apart do axles fit.
You need the CE kit do that first.

this had never been apart. it was missing the drums, but I knew I had some. but the holes to small, or the axles too big. as far as the kit from CE, I know I need to have it here, someone had said they didn't have to move his perch's , so I thought maybe i'll be lucky too.

[cas3]

i've been standing outside for an hour, still dont hear you singing, so, i think its a 9"

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by cas3

i've been standing outside for an hour, still dont hear you singing, so, i think its a 9"

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Not sure I follow you here, but as far as the pumpkin go's, I believe it is an 8"

Be nice to see a better picture of the bottom of the pumpkin tho.




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[cas3]

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Lanny, he said he was gonna sing from the mountain top," its an 8"...but i never heard it. just trying to inject a little humor in the barn

[ford nut]

it was more of a hill, but we set up a p.a. it was loud, the cops came and told me to shut up.

[Lanny]

OK, now it all makes sense. i think.






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[Lanny]

Oh, and just to help clear things up, I found a picture of Chuck the Chunk

[cas3]

smiles are good for your health

[George/Maine]

Yogis May still have CE kits They didn't stop me if I were to buy.

AS-2016CG
1936-40 Ford Dual Leaf Rear Spring Kit $570
CE They are good kits.
I think you have a Mustang 1965 1966 Rear end .
I was stationed in Kansas and they called soda - pop Call them and ask. Maybe DD and fly and pick it up for you and do some crop dusting.

[ford nut]

yogi's are out of the kit, but they have the springs. I was going to order them and make the rest, when the order taker said he heard CE was about a month off from re-starting under the new owners. he also said he had three orders already and would I like to get on the list. yep. so now we wait. I've got a guy who wants the banjo rear but I said I might need to move it around, so he's waiting to.

[BUBBAS IGNITION]

And the moral of this story?????

NEVER,NEVER buy a rear axle unit thats not complete !!!!!!!

I usually call "Curry" and they can walk ya thru the many Ford drum and axle posibilitys...

https://www.currieenterprises.com/

[JM 35 Sedan]

Maybe another moral to this story might be..... just keep strumming on the old banjo, and let chubby chunky chuck have the 8 or 9 inch rear

[Bored&Stroked]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Well, learned something new! Never heard a third member called a chunk.

Not a CHUNK (though when they're broken, might be an appropriate term) . . . a CHUCK!

D

[JSeery]

Wouldn't it be much simpler to just get the drums that fit your axle? No need for all the drama.

Look in a supplier catalog, such as Bendix, they list all of the specifications for each drum including the center diameter. Just start searching various possibilities for the origin of your axle and see if that is the drum you need. It will also allow you to ID potential axle sources.

http://www.bendix-brakes.com/product...rigin=redirect

As an example, say you think it is from a 70 Maverick. This is a 10" drum with a 2.437 center hole. A 65 Mustang would be the same. A 70 Custom has a center hole of 2.778, but is an 11" drum. You would need to check all of the specs to see if any drum fits your axle.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

Not a CHUNK (though when they're broken, might be an appropriate term) . . . a CHUCK!

D

Through all my years messin' with this old junk I've heard 'em called center sections, third members and also CHUNKS (usually by the guys missing a tooth or two), but never heard any reference to a CHUCK. DD

[George/Maine]

Thanks Guys for the tip. I have been calling it a chuck.
No wonder I can't sell it on Ebay Now I can get $150 more.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by George/Maine

Thanks Guys for the tip. I have been calling it a chuck.
No wonder I can't sell it on Ebay Now I can get $150 more.

Shipping on that should be interesting!

[flatjack9]

Makes sense to me.

[rich b]

Came across the 8" drum center register difference before, found there were
two sizes out there and confusion on the years used also. Thought I had made some notes; but?

Learned a long time ago that unless you pulled the rear end out of the car yourself; the sellers identification may prove to be faulty.

Do both your axle ends look like the one you pictured?

All the 8" axle ends I have seen have an oblong recess in the center.

(sorry about the metric ruler, took these picture when I was setting up some brakes for a guy in Italy and wanted to make sure the drums matched his axles)

[JSeery]

The drum specs are listed in mm.

[George/Maine]

When you buy cheap this is what you could have bought.
The only drum for a 65 mustang shows 2.441" But for a MII 1976 shows 2.537"
So being MII they could have giving you shorted axles.
When I did my 39 I used CE kit and 1977 to 1981 Granada rear its just drops.
NO thinking at all. If I were you trash or chuck that rear end.

[ford nut]

I think the best comment was to "keep strummin' the ol' banjo" what was that communist measurement device I saw? mm?

[ford nut]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Wouldn't it be much simpler to just get the drums that fit your axle? No need for all the drama.

this is what I did. autozone 39.95@ I don't get to use my NOS 8" drums, oh well.

[JSeery]

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Yep, but a fairly cheap solution in the overall scheme of things.

[cas3]

thats ok, you can never have enough crap around the shop that will never be used. i could send pics if you're confused by this

[ford nut]

Originally Posted by cas3

thats ok, you can never have enough crap around the shop that will never be used. i could send pics if you're confused by this

no-no-no, I fully understand this condition. I don't ever want to get caught in my shop during an earthquake. I don't think I would make it out.