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Old 09-14-2016, 08:07 PM   #1
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Default Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

I recently bought a Model A and it came with 17 inch rims and tires. The tires are near new and the rims are very straight. The tires are Lucas brand. Four rims are made by Ford, and one is made by Kelsey Hayes (I think).

I want to sell this set but I have no idea what its worth. What is the value of this set?

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Old 09-14-2016, 08:57 PM   #2
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I would say 100.-125. a wheel

16's are a little more popular, but the new tires make a real nice set.

I have seen them listed for more, but they generally dont sell.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:56 PM   #3
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Maybe approach this by determining the value of the wheels and tires separately, then combine those total's to determine a final total value.
Good straight/true, non rust damaged 17" wire wheels should be worth ~ $50.00 each. The tires could be appraised by prorating their value now based on age and % of wear considering the value of 5 of these same tires when new. Taking a wild guess saying ~ $50.00 each as an example. So, the final value for these five tires and wheels might be ~ $500.00.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:13 PM   #4
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These days, for reasons that seemingly aren't self-evident, it's the 18" wheels that are the most in demand and therefore the highest priced of the three sizes of '32-'35 welded spoke wheels. Given that, it's the tires that have the greater part of the value of this set. $500 is about right if not a bit high.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:45 PM   #5
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Where was ronn when I was selling my 17"s? Campaigned the wheels out west and finally got $25 ea for select wheels in different colors because of the selection. Only reason they have any value at all is they look like other Ford sizes. The tire availability for the 17"s is not too good around here and if not outdated. If a guy can use 3.5" wide wheels it better be 18". The Lucas tires are a great value! As for the 16"s, if it were not for the 4.5" bent spoke Kelsey 40 spoke, a specific description, I will not use 16"s for anything these days where larger diameter is trending strongly. WWII was a long time back where 16"s were most available. All this opinion does not apply to restorations. Good Luck: Fred A
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I would think it would depend on how old the tires are. I have some tires on my 30 Coupe that are over 50 years old but they don't add a nickle to the value of the 17" wheels on it. Most tire stores around here won't even fix a flat if the tire is more than 3 years old
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Where was ronn when I was selling my 17"s? Campaigned the wheels out west and finally got $25 ea for select wheels in different colors because of the selection. Only reason they have any value at all is they look like other Ford sizes. The tire availability for the 17"s is not too good around here and if not outdated. If a guy can use 3.5" wide wheels it better be 18". The Lucas tires are a great value! As for the 16"s, if it were not for the 4.5" bent spoke Kelsey 40 spoke, a specific description, I will not use 16"s for anything these days where larger diameter is trending strongly. WWII was a long time back where 16"s were most available. All this opinion does not apply to restorations. Good Luck: Fred A

Fred, have sold many 16's with roller tires for 100. a rim-they go pretty well here in the east. sent a set of 4 to Russia 3 years ago for 440. and mind you, the tires were worthless-just good 16 rims.

regarding the 18 inch rims being the most in demand- have a great set here for 100. a rim. I find nobody but me likes the 18's where Im at-all about 16's!

guess it all depends how long you want to sit on them.............
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:30 AM   #8
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"I will not use 16"s for anything these days where larger diameter is trending strongly."
What does this statement mean? I honestly don't know what "trending strongly" means, and how does it effect what size wheels and tires a guy can use, and the value of the 17" wheels and tires?
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:29 AM   #9
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Martin,
every other model A today has 16" wheels-think that is what is meant by trending strongly..............

just take a look on ebay!
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Old 09-15-2016, 09:32 AM   #10
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Beyond quotes, clearly 16"s were king of the refit for many decades when the size of new car wheels was shrinking to as little as 14" in the mid 1950s. Now the "trend" is toward increasingly taller wheels among the new and restyled cars. The march toward 18" wheels is a reflection of this style although not well supported in the historical record it has a familiar look to many of those building their 21st century cars. We were discussing 17" wheels. 16's can come in many wider forms, the ronn deflects to the irrelevant. In the east parts markets can vary wildly and my California selling experience must be considered a local phenomenon but still remains a useful comparison. When discussing the values of old Ford parts this regional difference shows itself. The comparison of wheels and wheels with roller tires needs a warning that old tires commonly mask rough and rusty secrets, destroying the true value of the wheel. Good Luck: Fred A
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:13 PM   #11
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the ronn deflects to the irrelevant-sorry I offended you big guy!

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Old 09-15-2016, 01:19 PM   #12
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I would start by checking the date codes on the tires, from what I have read if they are over 10 years old they a only good for rollers so you can zero out their value. The Kelsey wheel might bring $200 (that is just a rough guess, you need to research it). I agree with post #3 when he says about $50 for the Ford wheels. Be sure to advertise them in the newsletters of your local Early Ford V8 Clubs as shipping could be more than the wheels tires are worth.

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Old 09-15-2016, 01:37 PM   #13
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I sure see a lot of old rims like that on home made hay wagons.
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QUOTE "I recently bought a Model A and it came with 17 inch rims and tires. The tires are near new and the rims are very straight. The tires are Lucas brand. Four rims are made by Ford, and one is made by Kelsey Hayes (I think). "
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The one different one looks like a "MOTOR WHEEL CO" replacement for a 1933-34 Ford. They are riveted together and have their logo on the inside of the rim. They are somewhat rare but only valued somewhat more than the stock Ford wheels and not usually in the KH class.
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A nice 17 inch, K-H Bent-Spoke, single wheel was on eBay a week or so ago. Buy-it-Now was $95. Lugs were a little sloppy. It didn't sell.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:11 PM   #16
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I'm trying to figure out is it a set of 5 that he has OR 15 that he has pictured or some iteration there of????? I see regular spoke, bent spoke, cream, red, black tires, grey tires exactly what does he have he's wanting to sell????
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He is showing five tires /wheels for sale. His has photos of the front and back of each ( 5 X 2 =10) along with a close up of the tire treads.
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5 wheels-showing you both sides-new tires, so have no idea why people are suggesting the tires are no good/old?

question was pretty clear to me......
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Look at the picture. The 5 tires together are nice and black, the tires on the red rims are grey/weathered looking and why cream and red wheels???? The 5 in the first picture are all cream, the tires are all black including the second picture of just the tread...if those are the wheels, why or whats with the reds ones???? I might be interested in them BUT getting them from Cal to Fla would be a costly bit!!!! ANd what exactly is he trying to sell???

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Want to sell five wheels.
All tires are the same.
Looks like someone painted the rims yellow a long time ago, but didn't necessarily paint the backs (hence, red paint).
The back side of the tires are dirty from driving (isn't everyone's?).
Pretty simple really...
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