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HuntleyBill · 01-27-2018, 11:07 PM

I am starting to build the trunks for the Model A's and soon hope to be expanding this to other cars as well. I am having some difficulties finding the 1" x 72" long belts/straps that go around the trunk.

Does anyone know who makes these belts?

I see Lebarron Bonney has them but don't want to pay retail as I'd like to make these trunks as cost effective as possible.

Does anyone know where Lebarron gets their trunk hardware and belts from?

Your help is appreciated
Thank you for your time.
Bill

3.6rs · 01-28-2018, 12:04 AM

If you are building or if you want to built those trunks (and expanding!!), don't you think that it's up to you to fabricate the belts or let them make somewhere ?

Steve Plucker · 01-28-2018, 12:05 AM

Suggestion...find a local leather or saddle shop in your area and have them make them for you...it would be cheaper in the long run to do so....skip the middle man.

Pluck

Stew Masche · 01-28-2018, 12:20 AM

Google 'Antique trunk restoration hardware'

Mike V. Florida · 01-28-2018, 12:22 AM

Hows the price on this;

Tandy-Leather-Latigo-Cowhide-1x72

BILL WILLIAMSON · 01-28-2018, 08:17 AM

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burner31 · 01-28-2018, 10:25 AM

What are your trunks going for?
I'll be happy to put one on my luggage rack and advertise for you...if you would just send me one.

todd3131 · 01-28-2018, 10:41 AM

My son orders the same leather you are wanting he gets it from Springfield leather in Springfield MO.
Springfieldleather.com 800 668 8518. He uses it for straps it is 1 inch by roughly 72 but lengths vary.it is genuine leather so it is not dyed.
If you want to see what he gets I will be working with it today I can take a photo but their web site has it on there also.
Hope that helps

HuntleyBill · 01-28-2018, 11:08 AM

Thank you all for your input but
I have googled antique trunk hardware and talked with all of them.
Most all of them sell 60" straps. These trunks require 72" straps.
Someone makes them because places like Lebarron/Snyders sell them. So where do they get them from?
Yes, I can make them but by the time I buy all the parts, pay all the shipping, invest in tools to make them, not to mention all the time it takes to make them, the cost is less but not that much less. I have plenty to do already so buying a belt already done in a much better option for me.

HuntleyBill · 01-28-2018, 11:12 AM

Thank you Todd. I use Springfield Leather for all the other leather on the trunks. They are great people. Unfortunately, their quote for the straps for the trunks are higher than everyone else's retail price. Not sure why that is because all the other leather I get from them beets the crap out of every one else's prices.

todd3131 · 01-28-2018, 11:17 AM

He says he pays 7.00 each I just measured one it is 4.5 feet what did they quote you

vulture · 01-28-2018, 11:20 AM

Do you have a picture of the straps? Also where are you located ? A great local Tach saddle bike leather shop in northern IL

BILL WILLIAMSON · 01-28-2018, 11:46 AM

72" straps only come from LOOOOOOOOOOONG COWS!
Uncle Henry raises a breed called LIMOUZINE, with a LOOOOOOONG body. They came from France, in the 1500s. They bring prices, almost as high as KOBE BEEF!
Bill W.

HuntleyBill · 01-28-2018, 06:33 PM

Hi Todd.

Here is his exact quote in bold: Remember, these are complete belts with buckles, holes etc, not just the blank straps.

For the 72" × 1" finished belts... Natural veg tan we would be at $35 each and if you decided you want them stained a certain color we can do $40 each.

HuntleyBill · 01-28-2018, 06:38 PM

Hi Vulture:
I would love to find a leather shop in northern IL that has straps at a good price. I am in Clinton WI. I have attached a picture of the tan strap, but will also need this in black.

art ebeling · 01-28-2018, 06:55 PM

Around here in mid Illinois I would try the mens belt dept at Wal Mart.

Steve Plucker · 01-28-2018, 07:06 PM

Here are a couple of sites for you...check them out:

www.hideandfur.com

www.idaho-leather.com

Get some black leather dye and dye them yourself and save on the middle man.

Make sure you get the correct thickness (what ever that is for trunks) and not the thin crap.

Pluck

duke36 · 01-28-2018, 07:49 PM

We got ours from Snyders @ $30 in black. We couldn't make them or find alternates for that cost. We also found other supplies (except canvas duck with which many trunks were covered) from Antique Hardware and More. They have the 60" belts for $18 ea. and may be OK for certain trunk/rack configurations if the trunks are bolted to the rack , not relying soley on the belts..

HuntleyBill · 01-28-2018, 08:02 PM

Thanks Duke. Hmmm the price I found was 32.50 a belt. Maybe the extra 2.50 was a Wisconsin tax!

BILL WILLIAMSON · 01-28-2018, 08:19 PM

Some belts are made from Leather "GRINDINGS", with a REAL Leather facing!
Do Mens' Stores REALLY have 72" belts???
Bill Gypped

HuntleyBill · 01-28-2018, 08:47 PM

Actually Bill, a few do! Big and tall stores. Cept they want $80 a belt.I checked there too!

Mike V. Florida · 01-29-2018, 02:03 AM

What is your price point? What do you want to buy them at? Here is another 17.50;

1-x-72-natural-heavyweight-cowhide-leather-strip

Mike V. Florida · 01-29-2018, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuntleyBill

I am starting to build the trunks for the Model A's and soon hope to be expanding this to other cars as well. I am having some difficulties finding the 1" x 72" long belts/straps that go around the trunk.

Does anyone know who makes these belts?

I see Lebarron Bonney has them but don't want to pay retail as I'd like to make these trunks as cost effective as possible.

Does anyone know where Lebarron gets their trunk hardware and belts from?

Your help is appreciated
Thank you for your time.
Bill

They may not get them completed. They may buy the leather straps and stamp, punch and rivet them themselves.

The buckles are about 1.25 each.
Keepers 1.25
Leather punch, 8.00
Rivets 3.40 for 100
Rivet setter 3.30
optional, end punch 32.00
Dye and weatherproofing 10.00

Without the end punch for two straps your into the project for under 57.00, 8 dollars less than LaBaron Bonney and you have the tools to make more.

HuntleyBill · 01-30-2018, 06:11 PM

Mike...I agree. I can get the leather strips for about $7-$8. But I was hoping to NOT have to make them. I have plenty of work to do now. In fact more than I can handle. I was hoping to find the belts already done for around $20-$23.

Basically, I wanted to know who already makes them. LeBarron/Snyders have to get them from someone. See, the cheaper I can build the trunks, the better price you get.

01-27-2018, 11:07 PM	#1
HuntleyBill Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 12	Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... I am starting to build the trunks for the Model A's and soon hope to be expanding this to other cars as well. I am having some difficulties finding the 1" x 72" long belts/straps that go around the trunk. Does anyone know who makes these belts? I see Lebarron Bonney has them but don't want to pay retail as I'd like to make these trunks as cost effective as possible. Does anyone know where Lebarron gets their trunk hardware and belts from? Your help is appreciated Thank you for your time. Bill

01-28-2018, 12:04 AM	#2
3.6rs Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgistan (formerly known as Belgium) Posts: 573	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... If you are building or if you want to built those trunks (and expanding!!), don't you think that it's up to you to fabricate the belts or let them make somewhere ?

01-28-2018, 12:05 AM	#3
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Suggestion...find a local leather or saddle shop in your area and have them make them for you...it would be cheaper in the long run to do so....skip the middle man. Pluck

01-28-2018, 12:20 AM	#4
Stew Masche Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lake Mills, WI Posts: 251	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Google 'Antique trunk restoration hardware' __________________ Always one bad decision away from a good time.

01-28-2018, 12:22 AM	#5
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Hows the price on this; Tandy-Leather-Latigo-Cowhide-1x72 __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

01-28-2018, 08:17 AM	#6
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Remember, Cowboys DON'T wear RAWHIDE BELTS!!! Bill Gasping __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

01-28-2018, 10:25 AM	#7
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... What are your trunks going for? I'll be happy to put one on my luggage rack and advertise for you...if you would just send me one. __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B

01-28-2018, 10:41 AM	#8
todd3131 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: cedar rapids iowa Posts: 527	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... My son orders the same leather you are wanting he gets it from Springfield leather in Springfield MO. Springfieldleather.com 800 668 8518. He uses it for straps it is 1 inch by roughly 72 but lengths vary.it is genuine leather so it is not dyed. If you want to see what he gets I will be working with it today I can take a photo but their web site has it on there also. Hope that helps Last edited by todd3131; 01-28-2018 at 10:44 AM. Reason: Grammar

01-28-2018, 11:08 AM	#9
HuntleyBill Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 12	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Thank you all for your input but I have googled antique trunk hardware and talked with all of them. Most all of them sell 60" straps. These trunks require 72" straps. Someone makes them because places like Lebarron/Snyders sell them. So where do they get them from? Yes, I can make them but by the time I buy all the parts, pay all the shipping, invest in tools to make them, not to mention all the time it takes to make them, the cost is less but not that much less. I have plenty to do already so buying a belt already done in a much better option for me.

01-28-2018, 11:12 AM	#10
HuntleyBill Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 12	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Thank you Todd. I use Springfield Leather for all the other leather on the trunks. They are great people. Unfortunately, their quote for the straps for the trunks are higher than everyone else's retail price. Not sure why that is because all the other leather I get from them beets the crap out of every one else's prices.

01-28-2018, 11:17 AM	#11
todd3131 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: cedar rapids iowa Posts: 527	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... He says he pays 7.00 each I just measured one it is 4.5 feet what did they quote you

01-28-2018, 11:20 AM	#12
vulture Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the shop Posts: 359	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Do you have a picture of the straps? Also where are you located ? A great local Tach saddle bike leather shop in northern IL __________________ Wanted Roadster Pick up thank you COLOR]

01-28-2018, 11:46 AM	#13
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... 72" straps only come from LOOOOOOOOOOONG COWS! Uncle Henry raises a breed called LIMOUZINE, with a LOOOOOOONG body. They came from France, in the 1500s. They bring prices, almost as high as KOBE BEEF! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

01-28-2018, 06:33 PM	#14
HuntleyBill Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 12	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Hi Todd. Here is his exact quote in bold: Remember, these are complete belts with buckles, holes etc, not just the blank straps. For the 72" × 1" finished belts... Natural veg tan we would be at $35 each and if you decided you want them stained a certain color we can do $40 each.

01-28-2018, 06:55 PM	#16
art ebeling Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hillsboro IL Posts: 479	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Around here in mid Illinois I would try the mens belt dept at Wal Mart.

01-28-2018, 07:06 PM	#17
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Here are a couple of sites for you...check them out: www.hideandfur.com www.idaho-leather.com Get some black leather dye and dye them yourself and save on the middle man. Make sure you get the correct thickness (what ever that is for trunks) and not the thin crap. Pluck

01-28-2018, 07:49 PM	#18
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... We got ours from Snyders @ $30 in black. We couldn't make them or find alternates for that cost. We also found other supplies (except canvas duck with which many trunks were covered) from Antique Hardware and More. They have the 60" belts for $18 ea. and may be OK for certain trunk/rack configurations if the trunks are bolted to the rack , not relying soley on the belts.. Last edited by duke36; 01-28-2018 at 08:01 PM.

01-28-2018, 08:02 PM	#19
HuntleyBill Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 12	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Thanks Duke. Hmmm the price I found was 32.50 a belt. Maybe the extra 2.50 was a Wisconsin tax!

01-28-2018, 08:19 PM	#20
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Some belts are made from Leather "GRINDINGS", with a REAL Leather facing! Do Mens' Stores REALLY have 72" belts??? Bill Gypped __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

01-28-2018, 08:47 PM	#21
HuntleyBill Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 12	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Actually Bill, a few do! Big and tall stores. Cept they want $80 a belt.I checked there too!

01-29-2018, 02:03 AM	#22
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... What is your price point? What do you want to buy them at? Here is another 17.50; 1-x-72-natural-heavyweight-cowhide-leather-strip __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

01-30-2018, 06:11 PM	#24
HuntleyBill Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 12	Re: Building Trunks for Model A's Need Venders Please... Mike...I agree. I can get the leather strips for about $7-$8. But I was hoping to NOT have to make them. I have plenty of work to do now. In fact more than I can handle. I was hoping to find the belts already done for around $20-$23. Basically, I wanted to know who already makes them. LeBarron/Snyders have to get them from someone. See, the cheaper I can build the trunks, the better price you get.