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Old 02-19-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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I recently purchased this 1937 Ford DeLuxe Fordor. The car appears to have been purchased from Wright Motors (Ford-Lincoln), Evanston, Illinois. The car was apparently traded in and was purchased by the second owner in December 1939. The car was driven until 1959 when it was put into storage. The car was purchased by the third owner in April of 1990, who drove it briefly around his company yard. The car was put in storage again until late 2010. The third owner's family got the car prepared for sale and it went on the market.

The seller almost completed a deal but discovered that the buyer was planning on customizing the car and selling off the original pieces. He pulled the plug on the sale. He sold it to me confident that the car would remain unmolested and appreciated as the survivor that it is.

I am totally happy with the car. My friend is letting me store the car at his boat garage for now at no cost. I hope to get it running this summer. I'm sure I'll be asking questions.

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Old 02-19-2012, 09:51 PM   #2
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Wow Tony!! I really like those happy ending survivor stories. Unfortunately, in many cases they end up the other way, street rodded and original unused parts on eBay. That little '37 looks really nice in the pictures and I'm betting it just needs some TLC to get it road worthy again. Are you possibly in the EFV8C/A? That car looks as though it would/could easily win a Rouge Class award in all three categories from the get go. I would love to see that car someday at a future National Meet. Keep us posted on what you will need to do to get it back on the road, ask plenty of questions here, and Good Luck!!
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:51 PM   #3
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congratulations on a great buy....enjoy....Mike
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:18 PM   #4
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My high school typing teacher, Mr Baskins, had one just like it. Brings back a lot of memories. Glad to see the last owner wisely refused to sell it to a street rodder, who would have ruined it, and sold it to you. Beautiful condition for a 74 year old car. Great find.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:22 PM   #5
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Hi Tony, That is a nice find, I hope you keep it original. Is that the one you have been after for awile? Randy
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:42 PM   #6
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That's a dream come true!
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:48 PM   #7
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TonyM ...........................
What a great car and in a very rare condition ! Sure glad that you are going to keep it that way !
Congratulations !
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:07 PM   #8
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Thanks all.

John, I am a member of the EFV-8 C/A.

Randy, Yes, this is the car I was talking about earlier.

As an historian, I certainly do appreciate the "Time Capsule" quality of this car. It is old. It is a little rougher in some spots than the photos indicate and there has been some repaint.

It is an early production car with the early fuel tank filler neck, no radiator see-through shield and 12-36 glass. There are no 78-6050 Aluminum heads; the left one appears to be the 77-6050A type and the right one does not have any Ford script but does have the engine firing order cast on it. It has sealed beams which will be converted back to the 1937 type headlights. The windshield is heavily frosted and not usable as is. I found one to replace it from a Ford Barner in Muncie, Indiana. I reckon I'll be getting out there to get the windshield in the future.

I'm looking forward to getting the car running and safe to operate.

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Old 02-19-2012, 11:09 PM   #9
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Looks like an absolute gem. Pleased to hear it's remaining original too.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:28 AM   #10
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That is a great true 37 deluxe with the correct accessories and added SW gas heater. I would recommend replacing both the headlight wiring harness and dash harness, the insulation will ementually crumble if under normal stress. I believe Ted has a brake floater kit that works on 37's also and those are the two items that give trouble if not corrected in a driver.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:49 AM   #11
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Nice find, you can have your local glass shop cut that glass for you, I have done 3 vehicles that way & it is very reasonable. Is it a 60 hp ? I believe that was the 1st year for the 60 hp ( not sure).
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:05 AM   #12
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:25 AM   #13
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Congratulations, great find, and I like that it will remain mostly like it is.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:33 AM   #14
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Is it perhaps sporting the V-8 60 hp? Not too many of them...slim
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Nice car! Is that the original interior? What a find! Glad it will be kept stock.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:45 AM   #16
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Is it perhaps sporting the V-8 60 hp? Not too many of them...slim
Thanks all.

The car is a DeLuxe, 85 hp.
If I remember correctly, 60 hp is not availiable on the DeLuxe, only Standard.


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Old 02-20-2012, 09:52 AM   #17
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Nice find, you can have your local glass shop cut that glass for you, I have done 3 vehicles that way & it is very reasonable. Is it a 60 hp ? I believe that was the 1st year for the 60 hp ( not sure).
Gary.
1937 is the first year for the 60 hp in the US.
It had been sold in Europe a year earlier.
Anyways, I am very happy it is an 85hp.
That is the engine I wanted.

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Old 02-20-2012, 10:04 AM   #18
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Kool car, it's good to hear that it went to a good home! i would be happy to drive it.
if you wont to bring it to a worm place you can leave it at my house for free and i will drive it for you!...LOL
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:28 AM   #19
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Nice car Tony! I'm glad it went to a owner that it is going to keep it original. Enclosed is a photo of my all original '37 fordor.
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NICE find & enjoy .
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Very nice,

I had one like it in high school, sold it for a motorcycle. Found out it was gutted and turned into a rod that year. Wish I had it back.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:55 PM   #22
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Nice car Tony! I'm glad it went to a owner that it is going to keep it original. Enclosed is a photo of my all original '37 fordor.

Thanks to all for the great comments.

Don, that sedan is sweet. Thanks for the photo.

I'm sure I'll be asking plenty of questions this summer.


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Old 03-25-2012, 12:40 PM   #24
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Here is my 1937 Ford in my friend Tom's boat garage waiting for some attention.

Need to drop the fuel tank and clean it out good.

Need to purchase a new battery and new tires.

My club president suggested that it might fire right up.

We'll try and I hope it will run, but will it stop?

Not afraid to spend the money to get it going (and stopping).

And those sealed beams got to go--I can't wait to get the correct 1937 headlights on this car.

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Nice!!
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:09 PM   #26
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Very nice 1937 Fordor. The English Ford Pilots have the firing order cast on their 21 stud heads.
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I will admit that I do prefer hotrods but finding a gem like this, there's no way in heck I would rod it, survivor cars like this are just plain cool and ought to be left as is period! Good score
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Nice find! Good luck on getting it on the road.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:06 PM   #29
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I recently changed the headlights on my 1937 Ford Fordor, replacing the sealed beam gear with original style teardrop lense. The stainless rings are original FoMoCo purchased from a FordBarner in Tennessee. These appear to be the original buckets but altered for the sealed beam convert. I have decided that I will restore these original buckets and re-install them on the car some day (plus keep my eyes open for some original lenses). For now, I'll use the repro.

Here is the threaded sleeve that holds the fuel tank neck to the tank. I will be attempting to get this off without damage. I will try to get it off--if I can not, I will cut it off and put on a new one when I am done restoring the tank.

This windshield needs attention. I purchased a replacement from a FordBarner in Indiana. It is not FoMoCo glass but it will do.

I have a lot of work ahead of me to get this car going. No big deal because that is what I signed up for--to get this old car running and back on the road. I have been accumulating boxes of parts and look forward to learning about Ford Flatheads and solving the problems.

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Old 07-12-2012, 12:35 PM   #30
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Beautiful car and a great find ! Dave
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NICE! I love 37 slant backs, treat it well
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:36 PM   #32
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Thanks All.

After cleaning away the grime, I was able to get down to the original paint on the inner front fenders and engine shields.


This 1937 engine will eventually be restored with correct 1937 parts.


This 1937 aluminum intake manifold was purchased from a guy on Fordbarn.



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that is a great find! I've always loved these Fordors. i can never get enough of them! haha!
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Tony: Thank you for keeping it original. Sounds like you and the car deserve each other.....

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As a kid in 1950 my farmer boss had a car like yours. All his other power had 4 hooves. It sat outside and the blue paint was very oxidized. If we were good workers he would take us down to the hiway for a soda (tonic). That car probably was the reason for my lifelong love of Ford V8s of which I've owned many but never a 37. Good luck with your beauty. .
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It is a cutie .
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Well done to both you and the seller for preserving this car.

Couldn't help but think while looking at the photos...Frosted glass, radio, heater, heck all you need is the girl.
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A couple Fridays ago I was able to get the 1937 Ford Fuel Filler Neck to break loose from the fuel tank with a spanner. Took six months of Liquid Wrench and PB Blaster and cleaning the void between neck and tank. Could not get the the threaded sleeve to break loose of the fuel filler neck. So I cut it off.

I disconnected the exhaust brackets and I moved the tail pipe out of the way. Took the fuel tank bolts off--which were still safety wired to the frame-- then I slid the tank a few inches to the passenger side and it came out of the frame rails easy. The tank is in excellent shape on the inside. Couldn't believe it. Probably could have been used it as is. But how was I to know until I took a look? The sender looks to be in very good shape. I put it back on for now.

I am going to restore the tank with the POR15 kit. Should I treat the sender mechanism with anything? Or just leave it alone? How should I cover the sender hole when I use the solutions and sealer? I was thinking of making something. Any ideas?

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looks like you are haveing fun!
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looks like you are haveing fun!
It's fun learning about old Fords. I could have saved for another year, spent another $10K and purchased an old Ford that didn't need much but I am learning so much about old Fords by doing a lot of this work myself.

I found these Acorn Nuts in the engine compartment; they don't appear in the Ford Chassis Parts and Accessories Catalogue.

This mouse skeleton fell out of the back of the front seat recently. I did find an intact dead mouse the first day. It was a white/brown mouse--freshly dead. The tramatic flatbed ride probably stressed him to death. Wish I had a photo--I never had seen a brown and white mouse before.

I feel like I am starting to get somewhere. I have been rewiring the car little by little. Getting my Optima 6V battery soon for the first start up. Those tires look good, but in reality they need to be replaced. They are old. Rolled the car down my friend's driveway and stepped on the brakes--the car stopped. That is good.

Learning something new about old Fords nearly every day.
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Tony, Nice car! Glad you are keeping it original. I think those nuts were optional in 37. Found a handful of them in my 2011 Pilot recently, mine are definately repops, yours might be NORS (Nuts, Old Rodent Supplied)...
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Back to the original questions: The sender unit mechanism looks good--should I treat the sender unit with anything or just leave it alone? Also, what should I use to cover the sender hole when I treat the tank with the solution and sealer? I was thinking of making something. Any ideas?

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A couple Fridays ago I was able to get the 1937 Ford Fuel Filler Neck to break loose from the fuel tank with a spanner. Took six months of Liquid Wrench and PB Blaster and cleaning the void between neck and tank. Could not get the the threaded sleeve to break loose of the fuel filler neck. So I cut it off.

I disconnected the exhaust brackets and I moved the tail pipe out of the way. Took the fuel tank bolts off--which were still safety wired to the frame-- then I slid the tank a few inches to the passenger side and it came out of the frame rails easy. The tank is in excellent shape on the inside. Couldn't believe it. Probably could have been used it as is. But how was I to know until I took a look? The sender looks to be in very good shape. I put it back on for now.

I am going to restore the tank with the POR15 kit. Should I treat the sender mechanism with anything? Or just leave it alone? How should I cover the sender hole when I use the solutions and sealer? I was thinking of making something. Any ideas?

Here are some recent photos.
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You gotta love the banjo wheel and the radio. Good luck with it.
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If the tanks in good shape then don't add any pour 15 just run it .Fit a filter for the first few 100 miles .
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I recently changed the headlights on my 1937 Ford Fordor, replacing the sealed beam gear with original style teardrop lense.
Excellent choice!!!!!

I just bought a '37 Tudor in May. Same sealed beam conversion on mine. I unloaded the car from the trailer, pushed it into the garage, ..... and tore those SB conversions off.
Within a week I had the stock lenses and rings back on the car. (Probably going with H4 conversions since I plan to DRIVE this car.)
I understand why they added the SBs back then, but the teardrop headlights define the face of a '37.

Great car you have there. I'll be watching your progress.
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I rode in a 37 slant back std. 60 for the first 7 years of my life. My Dad drove it during the war said it got good gas mileage but as soon as the war was over (blacked out lights) he put on sealed beams.
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Great looking Ford Glad you plan to keep it original . Dave
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Optima 6V Battery has been ordered and is on the way for the Gas Can Start Up next week.
First start (hopefully) since 1990/1991. We'll see.
Thanks to all for the great comments.
Thanks DavidJ and Alan for your help.
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My friend Mitch and I tried to start this 1937 Fordor today. The engine turned over nice, compression in all eight cylinders, the oil looked good (it was drained and replaced), the starter turned strong, the fuel pump pumped, but there was no spark from the spark plug wires. Took off the coil and will get it checked out and go from there.

I have new spark plugs and spark plug wires which I will install; I have replaced the battery wires, ground wires, solenoid/starter wiring. I will continue to replace the wiring all the way back to the tail lights as all of it is very deteriorated and waiting to cause trouble.

Looking forward to finding the problems and solving them.

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WOW, what a sweetheart! I love 37s Ken
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Sweet little V-8 Ford. Lucky too..... it got a good "daddy".
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Back to your sending unit and tank questions. I made a disk the same size hole pattern as the fuel sender flange of 1/8" hardboard. It was mounted in the same way as the sender, gasketed and screwed down. In my case it was put there only for a clean out process. I did not coat the inside of the tank.
If you wire up the sender and power the gauges you should see the gauge move with the position of the sender arm. Be sure to ground the sender flange. Check the float for leaks. Put it in hot water and look for bubbles. If bubbles are seen replace it. Floats are available as well as complete senders.
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Finally getting around to cleaning this fuel tank using the POR 15 method. Real life interferes sometimes.

Check out my Fuel Tank Agitation Machine.

I thought that I was a genius and invented this method myself but I am told that others had used the two tires in this fashion. I'll bet the guy who threw the tires away had no idea that they had some more miles left on them. Looking forward to getting this done.

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Great find and glad things are coming along so well for you..
Back to some of the original comments about hot rodders,hot rodding such a survivor and then selling off the parts..

A lot of us are very thankful for those parts.. Just like an organ donor they help bring life to many an old timer..

Still glad to see you have it and fixing what needs to be fixed.
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Great find and glad things are coming along so well for you..
Back to some of the original comments about hot rodders,hot rodding such a survivor and then selling off the parts..

A lot of us are very thankful for those parts.. Just like an organ donor they help bring life to many an old timer..

Still glad to see you have it and fixing what needs to be fixed.
Any further progress on this car? I love the survivor look. Can't get better than that. Just buff it to shiny and go!

As for the "organ donor" parts...something this complete and in such a good shape should be preserved. It should not be parted out just to turn it into another ridiculously colored "kustom". These are nice looking cars and turning them some wild tropical color, putting the "oh so common" Chevy 350 in it and nasty chrome wheels is awful. There are plenty in worse shape to do that to. Don't take something this nice and ruin it.

I would love to find a 36-39 Tudor (or Fordor) without a hump back! They're awesome!
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Any further progress on this car?
Waiting for my distributor from Bubba's; just got my coil back from Skip; my new wiring harness came today from Narragansette Reproductions; and my new hoses and exhaust pieces came from Joe's the other day. Looking forward to putting all the new stuff on and getting the car going.
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I had not looked at this key wallet since the day I purchased this 1937 Ford and had removed the Hurd keys. Recently I opened the wallet up and discovered the original key code tabs that came with the car in 1937. Wow.

On a related note: I locked my right hand door with the key but to my horror I could not unlock the door. After about 20 minutes of gentle jiggling, I managed to get the key to work. I won't be trying that again.
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I have never seen "original" spark plug wires on an early engine-they appear to be color coded-is that correct?
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I have never seen "original" spark plug wires on an early engine-they appear to be color coded-is that correct?
I have not seen "original" 1937 spark plug wires either but an illustration in the November 1936 Ford Service Bulletin indicate that they were color coded: Cylinders 1 & 5 = Black/Red; Cylinders 2 & 6 = Black/Blue; Cylinders 3 & 7 = Black/Green; Cylinders 4 & 8 = Black/Yellow. Good Luck. TM
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Tony, spray some "Lock-Ease" into your door locks. The old lube in the locks has probably caused the tumblers to stick. You can get "Lock-Ease" at any hardware store.
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I had the same problem with my door lock. I used PB Blaster. Shot it directly into the key slot and gently worked the key for a couple of days. As with the Ignition/Column lock, it freed up and works like new now. Just take it slow and easy. You don't wanna twist the key or break it in the lock.
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This spider held up my fuel tank install for two hours on Saturday. He was spotted during a last minute check prior to install. I could see him way back there with my mini mag light. He would not shake loose so I poured a small amount of gasoline (about a shot glass full) in the tank and sealed up the holes. I drank a beer while waiting. Drained out the gas and hoped for the best. I spotted the spider on the wall baffle close to the filler hole. He was dead and stuck to the tank. I tried to vaccume him out but he stayed fixed. I found a long twig and put some electrical tape on the end. I looked in and he had fallen to the floor of the tank. I poked my spider extracting tool into the tank and got him.

This tank is now in brand new condition and installed on my 1937 Ford.
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Got this old Ford running today at last!!!

Runs strong, sounds good, real good.

Got a small fuel leak problem at the carb and the car did quit on both rides it went on but was easily restarted. Have a bunch of new parts and all new wires that will be installed this winter. Need to get some new tires for the upcoming car season.

Thanks to my old friend Tom Starcevich and special thanks to my friend and old car mechanic pal Mitch Markese who has taught me a lot. Thanks to you all on FordBarn who helped me, especially Alan and DavidJ.

Here is a photo of Mitch doing some work.

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A couple Fridays ago I was able to get the 1937 Ford Fuel Filler Neck to break loose from the fuel tank with a spanner. Took six months of Liquid Wrench and PB Blaster and cleaning the void between neck and tank. Could not get the the threaded sleeve to break loose of the fuel filler neck. So I cut it off.

I disconnected the exhaust brackets and I moved the tail pipe out of the way. Took the fuel tank bolts off--which were still safety wired to the frame-- then I slid the tank a few inches to the passenger side and it came out of the frame rails easy. The tank is in excellent shape on the inside. Couldn't believe it. Probably could have been used it as is. But how was I to know until I took a look? The sender looks to be in very good shape. I put it back on for now.

I am going to restore the tank with the POR15 kit. Should I treat the sender mechanism with anything? Or just leave it alone? How should I cover the sender hole when I use the solutions and sealer? I was thinking of making something. Any ideas?

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Not sure I understand how you handled the gas tank filler tube. Did you cut it off before you removed the tank? If so, did you have any trouble getting the tank out with part of the filler tube attached? I'm having trouble getting my filler tube off and will probably have to cut it off.
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Not sure I understand how you handled the gas tank filler tube. Did you cut it off before you removed the tank? If so, did you have any trouble getting the tank out with part of the filler tube attached? I'm having trouble getting my filler tube off and will probably have to cut it off.
Thanks, Royal Ryser

I cut off the fuel filler neck from the threaded sleeve before I removed the fuel tank. I was able to get the threaded sleeve to move but it would not break free of the fuel filler neck. I took precautions and sawed the fuel filler neck beyond the threaded sleeve. Once the fuel filler neck was removed, the threaded sleeve came off very easy. Once the threaded sleeve was removed from the tank it was fairly easy to get the fuel tank to come down and off. TM
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Installed this very nice robe cord that I purchased from a FordBarner named Vince.
Looks like it was always there.
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Makes it all worth it doesn't it !!!! NICE car and congrats .
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Makes it all worth it doesn't it !!!! NICE car and congrats .

Thanks DavidJ!!!
Thanks for all of your help.

Glad to have it running and driving. Going to rewire the entire car, replace windshield glass and install new tires.

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Went for three rides today (50 degrees F in the Chicago area on January 19). The third ride turned into a "push." The type 59 carb failed and is leaking badly from the body and base. The carb is bolted to the later type intake manifold by a stud that is welded into place (the corner where the stud goes in apparently broke off). The "repair" is very poor.

Lucky for me I have a reconditioned 1937 aluminum intake with all studs and gaskets, a new fuel pump and a usable Stromberg 97 that I got from a fellow EFV-8 club member.

Took the windshield out today and replaced it with a spare from a standard that I bought from a Ford Barn guy last year. The standard windshield and frame will remain in place while I am restoring my DeLuxe Windshield and frame.

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The carb is probably flooding due to either a problem with the float or a non sealing needle valve. As you have had the tank out and back in, the needle valve is favourite. A 94 will only leak if the float level is too high (bad float or needle valve) or the power valve is bad.

It might be worth fitting a filter between the fuel pipe and pump for a while until things settle down.

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Thanks Mart. Not going to worry about rebuilding the "59" -- will install all my new stuff when the weather breaks; 49-50 degrees F yesterday--12 degrees F today.

Also discovered that the car slips out of second gear on occasion.

Thanks to all who troubled to respond.

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Slipping out of second is a traditional issue, I am told, especially when going downhill without acceleration. Before our tranny rebuild I learnt to keep yer' hand pressing forward on the shifter when in second.

Love the robe cord, we put one into the Phaeton. For a while I had a blanket with a Ford logo hanging there that I got from KenCT at the Auburn CNM 2012. (Ken treated me well and let me keep almost all my limbs. I think I did him a favor because he said he'd hauled that blanket ten thousand miles around the country before I got my wallet out.)

Did the fuel sender work out okay? I've had to fiddle with ours (and the gauge) quite a bit. Was working fine for a year then it developed a leak in the float so it read empty all the time. It was replaced with a float from a new gauge, refitted into our old sender.

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Did the fuel sender work out okay? I've had to fiddle with ours (and the gauge) quite a bit. Was working fine for a year then it developed a leak in the float so it read empty all the time. It was replaced with a float from a new gauge, refitted into our old sender.

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Jeff, Have not reconnected the sender wire because the wire is so deteriorated. I have a complete harness from Narrangansette Reproductions for a complete re-wire.
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1937 Ford Aluminum Intake, Stromberg 97, new fuel pump and fuel line to be installed soon; re-wired tail lights, crossover harness, body harness and fuel sender up to the front--here are the old wires, which were found to be in very poor condition; these tail light looms look good but in reality are really breaking down. I put in new harness from Narrangansette Reproductions.

I will be taking out the front seat so that I can rewire under the instrument panel and through the dash; have new fuse block/resisting unit. Rewired headlights and horns; headlight harness is ready to install up to the switch body. Stop light switch had about a quarter inch of grime and grease encasing it. Cleaned it up and re-installed--hope it works; if not I have a new one. Looking forward to finishing up the rewire and manifold install. The weather is breaking so the unheated garage won't be so unheated.
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Looks like you're really taking care of things.

Nice shiney new parts. Mmmmmmmm

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After thinking about it for many months, I decided to try and stabilize this headliner by adding really stiff (but thin) cardboard to hold the headliner in place and prevent it from flapping around. It looks like it will work. I am even thinking of mixing some paint for the airbrush and paint the cardboard to match the color of the headliner.
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That looks like it will work well. Since you are going to paint to match the headliner, what would you think about making it one peice cardboard frfom front to rear and matching the contour of the car and headliner and mounting it like you have with stainless screws. Marv
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That looks like it will work well. Since you are going to paint to match the headliner, what would you think about making it one peice cardboard frfom front to rear and matching the contour of the car and headliner and mounting it like you have with stainless screws. Marv
Marv, Thanks for the comments.

That was the plan at first, one continuous piece. If I can find suitable material of the correct length, I will go that route. Thanks.

New Tires next month and the car should be ready for the season. I have black walls on there now and I do like the way they look. When I first got the car I fully intended to get white walls. But the blackwalls look pretty dog gone good too and I really like the look. So I began to wrestle with the problem of Whitewalls vs. Blackwalls. But a few weeks ago, with no prompting from me, my wife said she wanted me to buy whitewalls when I buy the tires. What a dilema. I guess I will have to go with the whitewalls.
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When I removed the intake manifold I found this oil-soaked shop rag in the valley. Wow. I wonder how long it had been in there?
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Nice car-


the interior has stood the test of time and looks comfortable!

Have Fun with it!
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Tony, You should be able to find the correct fuel pump stand easily. Let me do some digging after work.
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Tony, You should be able to find the correct fuel pump stand easily. Let me do some digging after work.
Thanks Seth. I appreciate the help.

I think I solved this problem. Thanks.

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Old 05-03-2013, 02:04 PM   #86
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Hooray for you and hooray for the guy that sold it to you! That is a great find!
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Thanks Gumpy and Thanks Shadetree.

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Old 05-05-2013, 11:26 PM   #88
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Today I installed Restored Aluminum Intake Manifold, rebuilt Stromberg 97 Carburetor, New Fuel Pump, New Radiator Hoses and Themostats, New Fan Belt and New Fuel line. This car is running real good now. Need to have my new muffler installed. Will be getting some new tires soon. Here is a photo of what the engine compartment looked like when I purchased the car and what it looks like now.
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Back on the road.
Need to finish the re-wire job, install my new windshield and get new tires.
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Great work, would look good with red highlights on the rims and some whitewalls
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:37 PM   #91
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Looks great Tony!
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Thanks Chad. Good to see you back on FordBarn.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:55 AM   #93
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I finally got my windshield back together--it took three tries. I had to go with thinner glass setting tape. I thought I measured it right but it turned out that I needed 3/64ths instead of 1/16th setting tape. I cut pie cuts around the bends. I would like to thank Chris Blattie for his advice. I looked up Chris Blattie on H.A.M.B., messaged him and read his threads. He was a tremendous help. It turned out great. I will put in the windshield seal and re-install the windshield on the car this week.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:59 AM   #94
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Hi Tony M,
my 1st time at this so dont know how I will go.
Take a look at WWW.CARS FOR WEDDINGS.CO.NZ
and see my 37s.
My knowledge is not up to posting photos.
You have got yourself a very nice unit there.
Good it is 85HP.
Once ugly and not wanted 37 is these days very popular.
Enjoy your Model 78.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:59 PM   #95
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New Patent Plate installed. The old one was just a piece of blank aluminum. New generator wiring with ground. Need to take out the front seat to finish the dash through firewall wiring. New starter solenoid; the other one worked, but the threads were real bad on one connector. 1937 Ford DeLuxe Fordor at 156th Place and Henry Street.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:20 AM   #96
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Awesome find! What a great reference for one who is trying to restore their interior. I really like the condition of that deluxe steering wheel!
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Thanks Felix.

I was investigating a clutch chatter problem and discovered that the left hand side "Engine Radius Rod" , also known as an anti-chatter rod, was not even connected to the frame. The special bolt with square hole was found resting in the frame hole. One good bump and it would have been lost forever. I removed the chatter rod and discovered that it was bent. I researched the piece and found that it should be straight. I bent the chatter rod back to straight and it fit perfect.

It took a long time to thread the special recessed threaded bolt with flat head/square hole through the frame and the chatter rod because of limited space for tool or hands/fingers. I made a special lug to help out. Took 3.5 hours to thread that bolt through the frame and piece; boy was it a tight squeeze--about 1.5 inches between frame and floor. Plus stop light switch and other stuff in the way. Had to thread over half way with greasy fingers before I could get a tool on it. Then I kept knocking the lug off. After two thirds of threads, I got the tool on it sure and it tightened down real nice.

Changed the trans oil and checked engine mounts for tightness. All good. Weather might not cooperate for the test drive. Hope the Clutch Chatter is gone. New tires from Coker arrived yesterday.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:14 PM   #98
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Sounds like you're really making progress. You will like those new tires & your ride.
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Success! Solved the problem. The Clutch Chatter is gone.
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New Whitewalls.
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:35 PM   #101
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The car started up on the first try after my dash rewire job. Always good. I guess I can re-install the front seat. Now working on the headlight switch body rewiring and soldering.

The Narrangansette Wiring Harness' good so far. Only one problem: the starter button wire should be a male end and not a ring end. I changed it out and it works.

Not many comments on my new whitewalls when I posted the photos last week, but then again my car ain't a red convertible.



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Old 06-03-2013, 06:35 PM   #102
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Tony - Great looking car! Seems like you're really going about "reviving" it the right way. For the record, love the whitewalls. Got 'em on my black '46 Tudor. Just right with the beauty rings. Good luck.
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Yes, the whitewalls look great on the black car.

I wonder about the guy that scribbled the "33 W 80" on the bottom of that seat.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:44 PM   #104
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Cool car!!!!!!
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Thanks guys.


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Old 06-08-2013, 10:46 AM   #106
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If you need help with the wood graining in the interior, let me know!
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:18 PM   #107
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Finally was able to install my newly restored 1937 DeLuxe Windshield. Still need some slight tweeking out with the adjustment screws but I am totally happy with how it came out. I had the 11-36 Windshield Glass reproduced by Saunders Restorations. A standard frame windshield with non Ford glass stood in while I restored my original windshield and frame.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:48 AM   #108
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Tony, what is to the left of the starter solenoid? Looks like the remnant of a "Sunday heater." I have the same "vent" on the passenger side of my 36 fordoor and was told at one time there was a heater but all the parts on the engine side are gone. I will try to attach a photo.
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Second photo is with the vent moved to show the ring which is for a cable attachment to pull the spring loaded door open. The views are from the interior side in both of my posts.
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Tim, yes, that is part of the old Southwind Heater set up that I disconnected.
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New muffler and hardware installed on Saturday by Ranshell's Automotive in Burnham, Illinois. I installed the tip.
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First event with my 1937 Ford--Lansing Cruise Night (Ridge Road, Lansing, Illinois, 07-13-13). Not enough Fords for me. This white 1939 Ford Panel Truck was interesting. I learned later on that it took the guy months to pound his grill back into shape. There was a fake body 1937 Ford Replicar there (I don't think the car had one part that was real 1937 Ford). There was a 1935 Coupe, a 1949 Coupe, a 1950 Coupe and a chopped 1940 Tudor. There were some kit 1932 highboys there too.

My brother won another trophy with his 1941 Buick Series 90 Limited. But he wins all the time. We'll see what kind of chops he really has when I take his car to the Big Buick National Meet at South Bend, Indiana, next week (he can't go). Believe it or not his car needs some more detail work (I will be over there doing it for him) and then maybe he will win a real trophy at a judged Buick event. All 60 or so of his bullshit cruise night trophies could not equal one Buick Club of America trophy.

I was happy to finally get my car out to an event. I am not sure I am of cruise night fiber. I like looking at other people's cars more than I like talking about my own. Since my car is an original condition 85hp Ford, I doubt it will win any cruise night trophies. Not a big deal to me. That is not why I am in the old car hobby. What I love most about my 1937 Ford is when it is driving down the road at 45mph with me behind the wheel.

Phase one complete.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:40 AM   #114
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DITTO on this as my main pleasure is actually driving mine around also . Way too much BS and huge egos for me at most car shows . Took the 33 5w to a little local town thing and got to listen to the " experts " telling their attending flock about my car . Best part was listening to all the INACCURATE info spewing from the " experts " . Some actually called it a 34 and told the followers that 33's are way rarer . I of course had no info sheet BUT the 1933 California plates SHOULD have been a clue Kinda fun in a detached way as they didn't know the guy in the worn looking work clothes standing by the next car was the owner = me . That said lookin good Tony and enjoy driving it . Bet you get lotsa phones pointed at it going down the road !!!!!!
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First event with my 1937 Ford--Lansing Cruise Night (Ridge Road, Lansing, Illinois, 07-13-13). Not enough Fords for me. I am not sure I am of cruise night fiber. I like looking at other people's cars more than I like talking about my own. Since my car is an original condition 85hp Ford, I doubt it will any cruise night trophies. Not a big deal to me. That is not why I am in the old car hobby. What I love most about my 1937 Ford is when it is driving down the road at 45mph with me behind the wheel.

Phase one complete.
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Old 09-20-2014, 09:23 PM   #115
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This car got a lot of attention at the Hammond Lion's Club 1st Annual Car Show at Hammond, Indiana, today. It was the oldest car there. The folks there really dug the story of the car being in storage for 50 years and how I brought it back to life.

I don't do many shows, but my wife wanted me to go to this one. Her friend's father was in it (the maroon Chevy in the background). It was the Lion's Club's first car show. Proud to have been part of it. The rain came and chased everyone off a couple of hours early.
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Old 09-20-2014, 10:54 PM   #116
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Tony,

Haven't seen this thread before so I just read the whole thing. Great car! Glad you kept it original. What is prompting me to post is that I have the same piston key chain you show on page 4 for my '51. I stopped at a local bar on my way back from my shop a couple of years ago, and the gal behind the bar said "You like old cars don't you? Someone left this here a couple of years ago and I am tired of moving it around!" I really liked it so I took it and used it. Glad I'm not alone!

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Old 10-27-2014, 11:22 PM   #118
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New Hinge Pin Mirror.

I have another--Should I do the other side?
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