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Old 12-24-2014, 07:45 PM   #1
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Default 4 Years, finished the '34 Three Window

Merry Christmas to all Barners! I have finished the 34 Three Window, here is a bunch of info on it below.

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Ask if you want the full photo slide show highlighting the entire Three Window build and final results.Nearly every single item mentioned below is documented with detailed photos.

Documented History
In 2006, Pete Hansen of Cupertino, CA, a member of the Mission Trail Early Ford V8 Club, and in his 90's, wanted to own and restore his dream car: a 1934 Ford Deluxe Three Window Coupe.A friend of his, Mike Sanders of Morgan Hill, CA, also a member of Mission Trail, (and current President) was given the task of finding Pete his Three Window.

In 2007, Mike found a Three Window in Daly City, CA.The owner was Robert Anduha, who first acquired the car in 1957.I spoke to Robert a few years ago.He was a dirt track racer from the area in the 1950s.A friend of his needed money to get back into the dirt track racing hobby, so he sold the Three Window to Robert.Since Robert was not into all stock vehicles, he simply stored it away.(See the CA DMV registration with the 1957 date.)

It remained in storage for 50 years!Oddly enough, it resided about a mile away from the house in Daly City where I was born and raised.I was not into the old Fords as a kid, not knowing this amazing Three Window was a mile away, and in my future!

As of May of 2007, Pete Hansen bought the Three Window. It was transported to Mike Sanders place so the restoration could begin.Below is the only existing photo of Pete and the Three Window at Mike's place the day it arrived.

Pete and Mike sorted through the car, and myriad original parts that came with it. They got the chassis completed to the point of a running chassis and drive train.They also ordered the LeBaron Bonney interior, new glass, had the grille restored, and a few other items.

By 2011, Pete's project was no longer feasible for him. Mike was aware I was looking to buy a 1934 Three Window, so he gave me ring.In January of 2011, I acquired the car.

The Build
For this Three Window, I wanted to take time to restore it in a way that would show off all the originality, simplicity and styling, as well as fine tune the details to make the overall restoration really stand out.

Upon inspection and purchase of the car, I was amazed at the fantastic condition the sheet metal was in.The metal is where most of the prestige and value lay with these Three Windows.The body was excellent, near perfect.The bolt-on items such as fenders, doors and door tins, rumble lid, hood, were also absolutely great!

I could now begin the restoration process on the perfect-find Three Window.Through the four years of work, I kept an extensive photo history and receipts documenting the build.

Sheet Metal
The sheet metal on this coupe is in premiere original condition, just as a collector would like it to be.
Exceptions to this are:
12" vertical cut in the passenger side of the firewall, that has been repaired
Each lower quarter panel has a small patch at the bottom, approximately 7" x 3"
Aftermarket running boards are on the car, but the originals are included
Aftermarket gas tank cover, but the original is included
The rear window drip pan is an aftermarket

Other than these items, ALL the metal is excellent.This includes the body, floors, four fenders, the hood, doors, the rumble lid and all the panels such as the 2 lower radiator/grille pans, interior front fender panels, differential cover, door tins, transmission cover, everything. (Pete painted the front fenders on his own, way before the build; he just could not wait to tinker around with them!)

Exterior
Body and paint were done by Jesse Cruz, of Salinas, CA.Jesse has painted several cars that have won awards on the 18th Lawn at the Pebble Beach Concour D'Elegance.The deep black mirror finish is really impressive.The body and sheet metal parts came together as they should, with smooth closing doors, correct fitting panels, etc.

The Three Window was originally a trunk car, but I prefer a rumble seat, so I converted it over, with the spring loaded interior release handle.
As we view the exterior of the car, here is a list of unrestored original 1934 Ford items:
Blue ovalFord emblem on the top of the grille.I feel this is a signature of my build, an 80 year old original emblem that is not restored, but instead stating this car is the real deal.

Outside door handles
Outside door lock and key (not working)
Hub caps with proper blue logo paint
Tail light stanchions
Spare tire lock and key
Roof tack strips, very hard to find
Set of four 17" trim rings, ultra rare

Here is a list of exterior restored original1934 Ford items:
Fully restored grille and its original V8 emblem
Pair of bumpers
Pair of stainless headlamps
Pair of stainless cowl lights
Pair of horns
Windshield frame
Five powder coated 17" Kelsey Hayes bent spoke rims
The rumble seat was ordered, and built at the LeBaron Bonney factory
Rumble seat spring release mechanisms
Rumble seat tool pouch on passenger side
Proper triple pin striping on the body belt line, and on the hood louvers, by Frank Signs, of Seaside, CA

Proper features that I have added to the exterior of car:
Original restored 1933 spare tire cover, I like prefer the look of the '33 cover
Luggage rack with leather straps
JD made greyhound hood ornament radiator cap
Five Brand new Firestone Deluxe Champion wide white walls
Blue dot tail light lenses
Ford Script locking gas cap with working key
All new glass with proper July of 1934 Safety bugs.Driver and passenger windows execute the correct horizontal vent motion when rolled down, since the Three Window has its original window regulators.

Interior
A full, new LeBaron Bonney interior kit was expertly installed by Andy & Me Interiors of Sand City, CA.
For the interior of the car, here is a list of unrestoredoriginal1934 Ford items:
Fully operational dual fuel/temp gauge
Fully operational dual amp meter, ON/OFF gauge
Fully operational vacuum wiper
Fully operational cigar lighter
mirror bracket
fully operational dome light
1934 Chicago World's Fair Century of Progress soybean gear shift knob

Here is a list of interior restored original1934 Ford items:
Front seat frame, back rest and seat.The Three Window still had its original seat soft goods, really not usable, but still intact!

All interior handles and escutcheons are excellent originals that were re-nickel plated by Van Nuys Plating, and have 80 year old marble ends
Dash board, window & windshield garnish moldings wood grained by Nick Cassero of Hayward, CA
Steering wheel and horn button
1934 Ford ash tray radio
Speedometer/odometer.It took about a week sitting in the living room with a portable drill, zeroing the speedometer.Check it out!When I got to 00000, look at where the trip odometer ended up!1934!!!What are the mathematical odds of that happening?Wow!
Sun visors with single hinge, which was an early 1934 feature and very hard to find.The hinges have been re-nickel plated, and the passenger side still continually swings forward into the passenger, just like it did in the day.That is why Ford went to a dual hinge visor, but I left it like this on purpose to keep its originality.

Proper restored features for the interior:
New door sill plates
New floor mat
Pine floor board & battery cover stained with clear high gloss
Chromed transmission shifter handle

Chassis and Mechanics
A top priority of the restoration was excellent mechanics and drivability. I also wanted to make the engine/compartment and undercarriage as impressive and restored as the top side.Mike Sanders had already restored the chassis, rebuilding the steering components, brakes, suspension, etc, but I took it all apart again to personally restore each item. I took the car down to the bare frame, painted it with gloss black, along with each and every individual piece.

The underside of the body, fenders and entire gas tank were painted & detailed just like the topside, in gleaming black mirror paint.

Many chassis parts were sand blasted and powder coated in gloss black or 60% semi-gloss black by Monterey Peninsula Power Coating.Here is a list of the major components done:

Oil PanOriginal ShocksFront AxleBacking Plates
Brake DrumsSpark Plug TubesRadiator PanShock Links

Fan Brake RodsWishboneOil Filler Cap

SpindlesFront Springand many other components

The striking look of the black powder coating was further highlighted with the use of white cad plated fasteners.

I did this where the fastening details would stand out, such as on the rear end, the oil pan, backing plates, brake pins, cotter pins, etc.Of course this means this Three Window cannot win a Dearborn, but this over-the-top detailing is not only unique, but allows the hobbyist to observe the Three Window's components like no other.

The Engine
Is a true 1936 LB motor.In other words, it has insert bearings rather than babbitt bearings.Back in the day, dealerships very often replaced 1934 original motors with 1936 motors.
See photo of the LB stamping on the top of the block, and photos of the inside
The motor was rebuilt by Norm Fontaine, of Campbell, CA and runs very strong and reliable.It fires right up, and tics at a very low RPM like a vintage sewing machine.When standing next to it, you can barely tell it is running.
The motor was fully detailed, as the photos depict, and dressed with 1934 components such as the aluminum heads, intake manifold, oil intake, etc.
Brand new gloss black British made Stromberg 97 carb
Original radiator re-cored by Monterey Radiator
Rebuilt original generator, fuel pump, and distributor, brand new starter, rebuilt water pumps by Skip Haney, Ford Script hoses, cad plated hose clamps
Ultra rare 3 piece Champion X spark plugs
Correct brass Siamese fuel line for gasoline and fuel gauge
Added a glass fuel filter in between the fuel pump and carb so you can see the gasoline flowing

Drive Train
The transmission is a 1934 rebuilt by Norm Fontaine, and at the request of Pete Hansen, contains Zephyr gears.

The rear end is a 3:54, for highway cruising, the way Pete wanted it done.
This combination lends to very high first gear, but by the time you get to third, the Three Window is cruising as a high clip with no whining of drive train parts.
All the brakes have been rebuilt, new shoes, new bearings, all 4 original shocks in place.
Steering box rebuilt and filled with John Deere corn head grease for smooth operation and leak prevention
All new 6 volt, positive ground wiring, and added a hidden battery cut off switch underneath on the driver side, just past the running board

Drivability
The Three Window starts right up, idles perfect and drives down the road as expected.It is geared for highway driving, rather than around town 4:11 style, but that was Pete's intention.The brakes and electrical work great, no overheating, smooth turning, all the electrical works as it should, so overall, a fantastic build.

The Matching Trailer
I took the trailer completely apart, rebuilt the mechanics, had an interior carpet made, and of course, had Jesse Cruz paint it to match The Three Window.Added a set of powder coated red 17" Kelsey Hayes bent spoke rims, with rare 17" trim rings, and brand new Firestone Deluxe Champion tires.It also has:

1937 Ford Script handle with key (does not lock)
1934 Ford V8 logo, new set of 1934 hub caps
California BIG SUR 1970's copy license plate
New trailer parts such as hitch ball and safety chains
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:48 PM   #2
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Absolutely stunning - speechless as to the perfection this restoration represents .. Congratulations ... Wow .. no words
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Old 12-24-2014, 08:13 PM   #3
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Is this a build thread or prelude to a sale?

Awesome car, but was wondering?
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Old 12-24-2014, 08:27 PM   #4
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Great documentation!! You really stuck with it!!

Congrats on a beauty!
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very nice, love the story/write up.
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Old 12-24-2014, 09:03 PM   #6
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WOW!! Very nicely done. What are your plans for this car? Will it be driven or will it be kept as a show car?
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Absolutely beautiful. Yes, what are you going to do with it??
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beautiful for sure
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Outstanding - best of luck!
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I admit, I have more obsession than sense, so first off I like to go out into the shop and stare at it from every angle. As of yet, I have not shown it anywhere, as we have Jalopies & Java every other Saturday at the Warf, but the last two have been rained out.

This is the first car I have had or done at this level, so it is new to me. After driving it around, I do wipe down both the top and underneath. I have other driver level cars which, honestly, are more fun, and less work, to take out. So as spring comes, I will take it and the trailer to local shows, keep it close to home.
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A knockout that's for sure! Congrats!
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In a word, awesome.
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Nice. Thanks for posting.
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wow nice job!
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2 x all above ! Your dedication in accomplishing this project is greatly appreciated.
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Great Job!!!!! It takes a lot of patiance.
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Old 12-25-2014, 12:34 AM   #17
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very nice , enjoy showing it off
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Fantastic job, Digger. I can never get past the "get it running and driving" state, but I can appreciate the hard work, time and money it must take to do that standard of a job.

Well done, give yourself a pat on the back.

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As remarkable and stunning as this car is in every aspect, the skirts are the signature touch that knocked it out of the park.........absolutely gorgeous! DD

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Absolutely stunning. Congratulations.
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Your car is a "jewel on wheels". Congratulations many times over.
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John what a bueatiful restoration and I'd love to see your full photo slide show.
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Hello Steve, give me your email address. I will send you an email with a drop box folder with the slide show I'm it.
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B E A U T I F U L !!!!! I would be afraid to take it out in open traffic now..........BUT........you need to SHOW IT OFF!!!
Congratulations and Merry Christmas you got a great present. (to yourself)
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A few people would not agree with skirts but to me it's out of the park for beauty with those. I can certainly relate to the amount of hrs. invested in a project like that. Wonderful job.
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Just purely stunning!!!
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Fantastic Restoration, Beautiful work and assembly. My Hat is off to you! Good Luck with your new 1934 3 window.

PS I like the Skirts shows well
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Excellent attention to detail and workmanship. Thanks so much for sharing it's story. I could only hope for my cabriolet to look as nice.
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Beautiful job ,I like the skirts a factory option. Ted
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:24 PM   #32
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My 34 3w looked just like that when I bought it 14 yrs ago, it still looks great but has a few stone chips on top and under neath,we use it,but not as often as the 33,
but it is very nice to drive and looks just like new,it has aged better than our modern car ,the headlining for that fell out just sitting in the shed.
You have done a great job,
Love the spats ,
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Gorgeous Car!!!
Love all the details.

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wow...what an awsome build!! congratulations!
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YES - YES, a beautiful 1934 Ford. A credit to your workmanship. They are all beautiful, 33s & 34s . The skirts are nice but they don't really need them to look good. In Australia we call the "skirts", "spats". Not sure why but probably a take off of spats which covered shoes. Regards, Kevin.
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WOW, Absolutely beautiful. You should be justifiably proud. Masterpiece.
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That's a stunner.

I see that you've used a luggage rack at the rear. Could you or someone please post pics on how and where you attach it on the car? I have short bumper braces so would those interfere in assembling a luggage rack?
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Thanks for not chopping it and making another hotrod out of it. Very nice.
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Fiver, I will create a post with photos of the luggage rack install. Deuce - yes, I would never personally butcher one of these cars. Not too many left with metal this good. I understand everyone likes what they like, but stock is for me.
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Fiver, I will create a post with photos of the luggage rack install. Deuce - yes, I would never personally butcher one of these cars. Not too many left with metal this good. I understand everyone likes what they like, but stock is for me.
Believe me, the '34 is absolutely gorgeous......AS IS! But then again, that lowered-lid on the 3-window in your avatar ain't too shabby, either. DD
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yes, the story on that 32 was really interesting. It had a huge blown motor, in the 70's, while under full pedal, the frame twisted, it crashed on a bridge, and was totaled. A '32 collector from the Central Valley got it, and slowly tapped out the metal by hand into what you see there, with an original mint 25 louver hood. I have a bunch of photos somewhere...
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:36 PM   #43
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Very very nice. I love the skirts. I love the whole car!
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Would love to see 'em! DD
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Here are some more photos
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Beautiful! What brand and type of paint was used on the body? Slug
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I believe it was Sherwin Williams, I will ask Jesse for more details.
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Old 01-09-2015, 07:42 PM   #48
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That is really nice. Even the floor is perfect.
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Old 01-14-2015, 05:53 PM   #49
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WOW, what attention to detail, the fender skirts are the cherry on top, i have been trying to find a set for over a year now without luck. The glove box door clock is also a lovely detail. What an exceptional car.
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Fiver, I will create a post with photos of the luggage rack install. Deuce - yes, I would never personally butcher one of these cars. Not too many left with metal this good. I understand everyone likes what they like, but stock is for me.
I'am really glad you said that Digger. Thats a beautiful Ford you
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Great car.
Great documentation.
Great job.
You should be proud of your work.
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:25 AM   #52
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Great story I love the originality of the car and attention to detail!
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yes, the story on that 32 was really interesting. It had a huge blown motor, in the 70's, while under full pedal, the frame twisted, it crashed on a bridge, and was totaled. A '32 collector from the Central Valley got it, and slowly tapped out the metal by hand into what you see there, with an original mint 25 louver hood. I have a bunch of photos somewhere...
Would love to see the photos of your 32, and hear the story. Is the the
coupe that three brothers rolled in Madera years ago? Rich
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Nice work , well done!
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Wow. Nice job!
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Guys, just putting the word out that I will be selling this 34 Three Window. The skirts are not included, but the matching teardrop trailer is. throwing it out there for 125k. The thrill of aquiro g the car, researching and finding all the NOS parts, restoring them , and documenting the whole car has been the thrill for me. hopefully the next owner will enjoy it. Thank you
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:54 PM   #57
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That car is incredibly beautiful!
I am getting ready to start a 33 3 window project myself. Question,
Where did the skirts come from? I have been searching for some for my 33.

Thanks and congratulations!
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I bought the skirts about 10 years ago while buying a '34. They are in fantastic shape, a vet dents that I had repaired, and redone when restoring this car. I have been asked to sell them often but have declined. I think the most amazing part of them is the strange non-Ford designed chrome V8 emblem.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:18 PM   #59
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Just getting started on my '31 town sedan, hope it takes me four years to get her done (don't want it to end to soon) also hope it looks half as nice as your beauty.
Congrats good job.........now go out and drive her.
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Jeez......It just don't get no better! I have to keep coming back here to take another peek. DD

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Old 01-26-2015, 06:41 PM   #61
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Today I took the skirts off and took some photos to post, also have a few from underneath. One touch item I still have to do is repairing two relatively deep scratches on the back window glass that happened upon install. I will try a few methods on a piece of test glass, but any suggestions are appreciated.....thanks !!
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Beautiful job, but if you show it in an EFV8National Meet, you will be gigged for all of those cadmium bolts.
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To answer your question go to a glass shop and ask for some scratch removal powder. Mix the power with water to form a paste. Apply this to the scratches and use a 4 inch foam pad on a angle air grinder to polish the scratches out. You may need to repeat this a couple of times until the scratches are gone.
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Yes, skirt free! This ain't no '39 Lincoln.
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I could see that car with a long legged women stepping out and ZZ TOPS song legs playing.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:33 AM   #66
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Jeez......It just don't get no better! I have to keep coming back here to take another peek. DD

Comparison......I vote SKIRTS! DD

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Old 01-27-2015, 11:41 AM   #67
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I like it better without the skirts.
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beautiful car. do you have any pictures showing the trunk hinge support at the leading edge of them. A friend is putting a rust bucket together and the hinges had been cut out.

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Well done it is gorgeous
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