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Old 02-09-2014, 02:21 PM   #41
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No, never. I repeat, there can't be a worse idea for a spreader.
I respectfully disagree when it comes to using this turnbuckle and rod as a component of a spring spreader.. Even though turnbuckles are used 'in tension" it would take a tremendous amount of compression force to bend the 1 1/2 inch dia. rod. And, if the turnbuckle loop was "boxed" it would not spread, for sure. If anyone has used a Port-A-Power with a psi gauge to spread a 1940-48 car spring please let us know how much force was required Here's an interesting chart.
http://www.rigging.net/Turnbuckle.html
Here's an interesting video. Notice the small dia. of the rod where it fails. Just imagine what compressive force would be needed if that rod was 1 1/2 in. dia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMMTwL-wAc
Plus, I have also seen photos of a turnbuckle jack which incurs compression forces in it's use. For example, here''s amotorcycle jack. http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20100001239

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Old 02-09-2014, 03:19 PM   #42
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I would, a loaded spring pack stores a allot of energy. If you have a heavy piece of flat stock, angle iron. heavy walled pipe with 1 inch ID, a 1 in threaded rod, nut, heavy flat washer or thrust washer, and a welder you can make one pretty easily. Here is pic of mine.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:00 PM   #43
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ok guys go back to post #12, its by dick spadaro, one of the most talented guys on here on these old cars, he tells you how to do it with c clamps,the big american made ones, it works xlnt
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:34 PM   #44
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ok guys go back to post #12, its by dick spadaro, one of the most talented guys on here on these old cars, he tells you how to do it with c clamps,the big american made ones, it works xlnt

Yes, Amen. Don't be scared about this. C clamps work if done with equal parts caution and logic.

No don't need a spring spreader. What would you do if the main leaf was reversed? Spreader would be useless.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:55 PM   #45
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Gotta read stuff this stuff to realize how dumb you are.....I unbolted all bolts and "let her fly". Wa considerable"sprong!!!!!" but all was ok.

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Yes, Amen. Don't be scared about this. C clamps work if done with equal parts caution and logic.

No don't need a spring spreader. What would you do if the main leaf was reversed? Spreader would be useless.
Um, Tim, a spring spreader works very well with a reverse eye spring. A little mechanical ability goes a long way...
If you ever want to know how to do this operation, let me know.
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:54 PM   #47
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Let me guess...how about 16" of angle, one hack saw, a drill and four bolts? DD
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:57 PM   #48
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I disagree - it always worked for me

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dont use all thread, its not strong enough to be safe, get a long center bolt, get a center bolt an inch longer than the uncompressed spring, the center bolt keeps the spring in position and you dont have to install it when the spring is fully compressed, and please dont use cheap c clamps
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Let me guess...how about 16" of angle, one hack saw, a drill and four bolts? DD
Nope, not even close...
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Nope, not even close...
Well then, that makes at least TWO easy ways.

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Old 02-09-2014, 08:18 PM   #51
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Um, Tim, a spring spreader works very well with a reverse eye spring. A little mechanical ability goes a long way...
If you ever want to know how to do this operation, let me know.

Kube:

I am very interested in a reverse eye spreader. All of the speaders in this thread are for traditional non-reversed eyes for the tools rest on at least one of the "curls" of the eyelet.

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the c clamps will work just fine on reversed eye springs
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:51 PM   #53
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Re: Removing a reversed eye spring with a spring spreader.
Something like this will work. Just bend one leg of the angle to fit your spreader. Scroll down to post #8 and 9.
http://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/tec...40s-ford-37706
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Re: Removing a reversed eye spring with a spring spreader.
Something like this will work. Just bend one leg of the angle to fit your spreader. Scroll down to post #8 and 9.
http://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/tec...40s-ford-37706
OK Jim, there's my 16" of angle, cut into four fours, drilled with a drill and clamped with four bolts. DD

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Old 02-09-2014, 09:08 PM   #55
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Wow! I missed a bunch of good discussion today while I was out goofing off. I didn't work a lick on it today (I sure thought about it a lot), but that is only because this is the first sunny day I've seen in a week or so. So the wife and I went over to the beach for a while.

19Fordy - I would love to take some copious notes and even do some video of the gear change, but I'm actually handing this job off to someone that knows what the hell they are doing. (Unlike me.) And they are out of town so I probably won't be able to even watch the process. Actually, I'm not really afraid to tackle most jobs and I do have a pretty well equipped shop for a hobby. Unfortunately, a shop press has not found its way to my shop. Yet. I may try it when I get to the '35 truck. I really just want to get this '36 safe and sound and drive it right now.

As to the ebay spreader, I took it as just a suggestion of the things that are out there to consider.

I am interested in the reverse eye spreaders for anyone wanting to share.
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Ha! Ha! DD, you submitted that while I was typing!!
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Um, Tim, a spring spreader works very well with a reverse eye spring. A little mechanical ability goes a long way...
If you ever want to know how to do this operation, let me know.
Kube, you're either smart and/or helpful. I can't tell one without the other.

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Old 02-09-2014, 09:28 PM   #58
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OK Jim, there's my 16" of angle, cut into four fours, drilled with a drill and clamped with four bolts. DD

I think you hit the home run on this.
Kube, please post your solution as inquiring minds what to know.
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:46 PM   #59
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The same guy that sells the model A spreader also sells one for 32-48 Ford Model B 18 48 Front Rear spring spreader Lincoln Mercury Coupe Sedan. Here is the link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/150786515709...84.m1497.l2649
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:21 PM   #60
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Harms way did a tech step by step on the hamb, (think he posts here to) on taking a reverse apart to install/remove. Some good suggestions also in wrapping the spring with a chain or something if the clamps move.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=646689

Another on reverse eye spreader ideas. Go down to around post 11. I was looking for the one on the cradle adaptor version that petejoe mentions in is this thread. Maybe that was a fb post? Still looking...
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...pring+spreader
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