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Steve Plucker · 05-07-2010, 09:22 AM

Can someone explain the 1931 restamped firewalls to me.

Do show cars have these?

Which gastanks were they designed for?

Thanks.

Pluck

JoeWay · 05-07-2010, 10:12 AM

Congratulations to Steve for the first actual Model A related post!!!

Jason in TX · 05-07-2010, 01:02 PM

The 1931 restamped firewalls were flat 1930 firewalls that Ford had left over when they went to the indented firewall.

You will occasionally see an indented firewall that has the flat firewall raised bead smooshed in the indented area.

These restamped firewalls were originally intended to be used with gas tanks with cabin side shut off valve, but after restamping them with the indention, they will be used with the tanks that have the fuel shut off valve in the engine compartment.

Ford was just using up existing materials before switching over to the ones designed to be indented.

Mike V. Florida · 05-07-2010, 03:53 PM

Restamped firewalls are accepted for fine point.

Bjerg_Menneskene · 05-25-2010, 09:16 PM

Here are a couple of shots of the firewall of my Dad's sedan -- you can easily see the "plug" welded in to fill the old hole for the gas line and the flattening of the ribs

Jeff P. / MN · 05-25-2010, 10:05 PM

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Elrod has it historically right. There were about 5000 restamped firewalls. My S/W 4dr. (#4521989) had one, I didn't realize it until I restored the car. See the book "Henry's Fabulous Model A Ford" by Les Henry. There is a good explaination and a picture of a stack of firewalls. I have posted this info at least three times in the past 6 months!

Steve, please PM me for contact info, I have two early '29's with firewall dates etc. that I want to discuss with you

jw hash · 05-26-2010, 07:54 AM

Steve Barb Birt`s show phone truck has a restamped fire wall and they had even put the holes in it for the data plate, the judges at last years NWR in cottage grove dock it points for having the holes in it. I have pictures of it but I don`t know how to post them here but I can send them to you. John

Jeff P. / MN · 05-26-2010, 08:23 AM

I found a picture of my restamped firewall on my '31 Town Sedan. The reproduction patent plate was installed in the same 4 holes that the original was in.

foxfire42 · 05-26-2010, 10:27 AM

My restamped firewall is on a late 31 (Sept 1931 engine #) truck which further enforces the the fact that trucks got the left overs. Assuming the truck was actually assembled in Nov or Dec 31 (it had the Dec. version of the engine pans) they must have had a lot of early restamped firewalls laying around late in the year. Seems 5000 of them would have been used up long before the end of 31. Barb Birt

msmaron · 05-26-2010, 10:34 AM

OK now i am couious... How can you tell if if is Re Stamped. What are the tell tale signs. Here is my firewall picture?
Mark

Marco Tahtaras · 05-26-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by msmaron

OK now i am couious... How can you tell if if is Re Stamped. What are the tell tale signs. Here is my firewall picture?
Mark

There are excellent photos already posted showing the traces of the flat firewall ribs.

msmaron · 05-26-2010, 12:28 PM

Ok thank and i see now the photos and ribs... Mine is NOT a restamp

05-07-2010, 09:22 AM	#1
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	1931 RE-stamped firewalls... Can someone explain the 1931 restamped firewalls to me. Do show cars have these? Which gastanks were they designed for? Thanks. Pluck

05-07-2010, 10:12 AM	#2
JoeWay Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Quincy CA Posts: 752	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... Congratulations to Steve for the first actual Model A related post!!! __________________ 1929 Tudor since 1962 Feather River A's

05-07-2010, 01:02 PM	#3
Jason in TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ Posts: 2,047	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... The 1931 restamped firewalls were flat 1930 firewalls that Ford had left over when they went to the indented firewall. You will occasionally see an indented firewall that has the flat firewall raised bead smooshed in the indented area. These restamped firewalls were originally intended to be used with gas tanks with cabin side shut off valve, but after restamping them with the indention, they will be used with the tanks that have the fuel shut off valve in the engine compartment. Ford was just using up existing materials before switching over to the ones designed to be indented. __________________ -------------- Drive it like you know how to fix it! DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC

05-25-2010, 09:16 PM	#5
Bjerg_Menneskene Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 15	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... Here are a couple of shots of the firewall of my Dad's sedan -- you can easily see the "plug" welded in to fill the old hole for the gas line and the flattening of the ribs

05-25-2010, 10:05 PM	#6
Jeff P. / MN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeland, MN Posts: 310	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Elrod has it historically right. There were about 5000 restamped firewalls. My S/W 4dr. (#4521989) had one, I didn't realize it until I restored the car. See the book "Henry's Fabulous Model A Ford" by Les Henry. There is a good explaination and a picture of a stack of firewalls. I have posted this info at least three times in the past 6 months! Steve, please PM me for contact info, I have two early '29's with firewall dates etc. that I want to discuss with you

05-07-2010, 03:53 PM	#4
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... Restamped firewalls are accepted for fine point. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

05-26-2010, 07:54 AM	#7
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... Steve Barb Birt`s show phone truck has a restamped fire wall and they had even put the holes in it for the data plate, the judges at last years NWR in cottage grove dock it points for having the holes in it. I have pictures of it but I don`t know how to post them here but I can send them to you. John

05-26-2010, 10:27 AM	#9
foxfire42 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ and WA Posts: 764	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... My restamped firewall is on a late 31 (Sept 1931 engine #) truck which further enforces the the fact that trucks got the left overs. Assuming the truck was actually assembled in Nov or Dec 31 (it had the Dec. version of the engine pans) they must have had a lot of early restamped firewalls laying around late in the year. Seems 5000 of them would have been used up long before the end of 31. Barb Birt

05-26-2010, 12:28 PM	#12
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: 1931 RE-stamped firewalls... Ok thank and i see now the photos and ribs... Mine is NOT a restamp __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe