Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2016, 10:59 AM   #21
flatheadmurre
Senior Member
 
flatheadmurre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3,045
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Just put it in rewerse when you park and it locks out the freewheel.
flatheadmurre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 11:24 AM   #22
Kahuna
Senior Member
 
Kahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NorCal
Posts: 2,617
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

NEVER reverse with the O/D engaged.
Kahuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 01-25-2016, 12:06 PM   #23
blucar
Senior Member
 
blucar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ventura, CA
Posts: 2,464
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

The installation of an OD in a torque tube type of drive-line is a pretty rare application.
I knew a man in Idaho in 1950 that had one in a '41 Chevy coupe, the OD was in the car when he bought it.
About two years ago I saw a '50 Chevy for sale at the Pomona Swap Meet. The car was a mess, needing a complete restoration, however, the OD unit was complete, installed in the drive-line close to the differential..
I would make a guess that BW had an installation kit available to install the OD's in torque tube drive-lines, thereby making the application user friendly.
__________________
Bill.... 36 5 win cpe
blucar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 01:44 PM   #24
rotorwrench
Senior Member
 
rotorwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 16,420
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Quote:
Originally Posted by flatheadmurre View Post
Just put it in rewerse when you park and it locks out the freewheel.
The reverse lock out only works when the linkage is in there between the transmission and the overdrive housing. These drive shaft units don't have any of that in there.
rotorwrench is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 02:15 PM   #25
flatheadmurre
Senior Member
 
flatheadmurre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3,045
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Quote:
Originally Posted by rotorwrench View Post
The reverse lock out only works when the linkage is in there between the transmission and the overdrive housing. These drive shaft units don't have any of that in there.
Yep...will take a long rod down to the torqtube...my bad.
flatheadmurre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 08:04 AM   #26
Automotive Stud
Senior Member
 
Automotive Stud's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 832
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
I have one of these units in my '40. I know not to operate the unit in reverse in overdrive, but if the solenoid is off and one forgets to pull the lockout handle before reverse, what would happen? I'm assuming the unit would just freewheel and not damage anything but I'd like to be sure before I start driving with it.
Automotive Stud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 08:48 AM   #27
TJ
Senior Member
 
TJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Napa,California
Posts: 6,028
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

With a 2.87 overdrive I would think you would need some really good brakes to get stopped in an emergency.
TJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 09:12 AM   #28
jetmek
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: albany
Posts: 465
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Quote:
Originally Posted by Automotive Stud View Post
I have one of these units in my '40. I know not to operate the unit in reverse in overdrive, but if the solenoid is off and one forgets to pull the lockout handle before reverse, what would happen? I'm assuming the unit would just freewheel and not damage anything but I'd like to be sure before I start driving with it.
It will grenade the sprag assembly
__________________
engine and component overhauls my specialty!
Website- www.godevilgarage.com
jetmek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 09:18 AM   #29
jetmek
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: albany
Posts: 465
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

I built a bunch if these years back for model a’s. I have some cores, a bunch of partially machined parts and raw end castings and tooling that I would consider selling if anyone is interested. Im not building any more of them. Email for info
__________________
engine and component overhauls my specialty!
Website- www.godevilgarage.com
jetmek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 09:25 AM   #30
Automotive Stud
Senior Member
 
Automotive Stud's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 832
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Quote:
Originally Posted by jetmek View Post
It will grenade the sprag assembly
Even with the solenoid disengaged? How would that differ from freewheeling?
Automotive Stud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 09:48 AM   #31
rotorwrench
Senior Member
 
rotorwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 16,420
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

It would only freewheel if the unit is not locked out. The problems would happen if it actually shifted into OD while freewheeling in reverse.
rotorwrench is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 10:13 AM   #32
Automotive Stud
Senior Member
 
Automotive Stud's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 832
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Quote:
Originally Posted by rotorwrench View Post
It would only freewheel if the unit is not locked out. The problems would happen if it actually shifted into OD while freewheeling in reverse.
That's what I was thinking. Thanks!
Automotive Stud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 10:17 AM   #33
CaliforniaBorn36
Senior Member
 
CaliforniaBorn36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 427
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

I see there is some new activity here. I am attaching a document I came across in my research that will hopefully answer a lot of the questions in this thread...

It shows pictures of an entire enclosed drive shaft installation broken down to its component parts and how to repair. quite detailed.

I also have a document that I cannot seem to upload that is named "1C-Borg-Warner-OD-Restorer-Mar-Apr-2005" maybe people can search and find that one if interested, more about operating the units. (I think it is to big to upload) I can also email directly if someone is interested.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Borg-Warner-Repair.pdf (948.7 KB, 26 views)
CaliforniaBorn36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 11:18 AM   #34
Automotive Stud
Senior Member
 
Automotive Stud's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 832
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

That's a good link that explains everything very easily. A must read for anybody with a BW overdrive, torque tube mounted or not.
Automotive Stud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2020, 07:09 PM   #35
rotorwrench
Senior Member
 
rotorwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 16,420
Default Re: What'this overdrive 1934

Lincolns were the first Ford made cars to use the BW electric OD. Those early ones were torque tube.
rotorwrench is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53 AM.