Lincoln Y-Block 318 Problems

[Ratfink1973]

Hello, my Name is Dieter and i am from austria. 40 Years old and i have an Lincoln Capri from 1953. I Hope this is the Right Place for my Problems with the Motor.
The carburetor is in Bad condition.
It is the First Holley 2140 Called also teapot. The linkage from this Sicks wrong Air.Did anyone know where i could become an good Holley 2140 or what must i change wehen i want take an other carburetor?
Thanks and greetings Dieter
Sorry for my Bad english

[Dobie Gillis]

Guten Tag, Dieter, und Wilkommen! There are a couple of guys on this forum with deep knowledge of the early Holley carbs and also rebuild them. It sounds like the throttle shaft bore needs to be re-bushed or an oversize shaft installed. If you would rather use a modern carburetor you will need an adapter plate between the carb and intake manifold. These are available from many stateside performance suppliers, such as Speedway Motors, Summit and Jegs. You will also need a 1957 or later distributor since the original distributor was vacuum advance only and will not work with any other carb (look up Loadamatic for a full explanation).

I'm sure more guys will add to this discussion. Good luck with your Lincoln; the '53 is one of my favorites.

[scicala]

Originally Posted by Ratfink1973

Hello, my Name is Dieter and i am from austria. 40 Years old and i have an Lincoln Capri from 1953. I Hope this is the Right Place for my Problems with the Motor.
The carburetor is in Bad condition.
It is the First Holley 2140 Called also teapot. The linkage from this Sicks wrong Air.Did anyone know where i could become an good Holley 2140 or what must i change wehen i want take an other carburetor?
Thanks and greetings Dieter
Sorry for my Bad english

Hello Dieter,

I have rebuilt and restored quite a few of the Holley 2140 and 4000 carburetors for 1953 through 1956 Lincolns along with all other teapots and all carburetors in general. I now have two rough core carburetors that could probably be used to make one good carburetor.

It's you're choice to do something like that or if you wanted to switch to a more modern 4 barrel carburetor and try to find a 1957 or later distributor. That may be difficult to find a distributor. Not sure.

If you are interested, let me know and I can send you a personal message on Ford Barn with the details. Sal Cicala

[Bruce Compton, Canada]

Hi Dieter : I'm pretty sure that the Ford 292-312 Y Block (1957 +) distributor will fit your 317 but the drive gear will have to be changed to 15 teeth. Not sure about your oil pump drive, but if it's a flat tab you will have to deal with that too. Check with Bubbas Ignition on this site as he does what he call a "butt change" to make the '57 up distributors fit the early motors. As well, Sal knows what he is talking about and would be a good guy to help you with a carburetor selection. My car is a 1954 Mercury that has a modified '57 distributor and a Holley 390 cfm carb and it runs better than new, and although it's not totally original, I'd never go back. Good luck : Bruce

[Daves55Sedan]

In case someone did not already mention it, if you do decide to change to a '57 and later carburetor, it is a good idea to also change to the later distributor.
I believe BUBBA's Ignition has dealt with modifications to the original Lincoln 317 distributor.

[Ratfink1973]

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Hello, thanks for the answer. Did anyone know, is the Holley 2140 SG carburetor the same as the first series and could i take this one on my Motor?Could i become a new diaphragm for the distriputor?
Greetings from Austria Dieter

[Jay in Mass]

Originally Posted by Ratfink1973

Hello, thanks for the answer. Could i become a new diaphragm for the distriputor?
Greetings from Austria Dieter

Welcome Dieter
You came to the right place and will get help and good information on this site.

bekommen auf English ist to get
become auf Deutsch ist werden

I always had trouble with those two words also.

[scicala]

Originally Posted by Ratfink1973

Hello, thanks for the answer. Did anyone know, is the Holley 2140 SG carburetor the same as the first series and could i take this one on my Motor?Could i become a new diaphragm for the distriputor?
Greetings from Austria Dieter

Hi Dieter,

The Holley 2400 SG carburetor is for a heavy truck with a governor on the carb. Would not connect properly and would have low power and RPM because of the governor.
Also, changing the diaphragm on the distributor will not make a newer style carburetor work with it. The problem is no centrifugal advance in the distributor, and the Holley 2400's have the wrong vacuum signal for a 1957 and later distributor.

Sal

[Oldmics]

Dieter

If you have any interest I have a used 57 distributor that is from a 368 engine.
Its a 15 tooth drive gear so it should be correct for your needs if you decide to upgrade the carb.

I can be reached at my regular e address at

[email protected]

I can provide references to show that I am an honest car guy.You gotta be careful dealing on the web.

Best regards,Oldmics

[Ratfink1973]

Hello and thanks for the answer.
Now i have two options:
I take the Holley2140 and hope that someone could overhaul it here in Austria.
New diaphragm for the distributor

Or new distributor, Adapter plate and other carburetor
Which Carburetor is good for this motor and could i become new?
Thanks and greetings from Austria Dieter

[Dobie Gillis]

Originally Posted by Ratfink1973

Hello and thanks for the answer.
Now i have two options:
I take the Holley2140 and hope that someone could overhaul it here in Austria.
New diaphragm for the distributor

Or new distributor, Adapter plate and other carburetor
Which Carburetor is good for this motor and could i become new?
Thanks and greetings from Austria Dieter

If you are going to go with a modern carb your best options are probably the Holley 390 cfm or the Edelbrock Performer 450 cfm. Both have vacuum operated secondaries which are forgiving of slight over-carburation. The Edelbrock is easier to tune than the Holley, but both are good choices.

[Ratfink1973]

Hello, is it possibble to get a new distributor from an Ford Y Block that fits on my Lincoln?I did not find the adapter plate for a new carburator. From which company could i become this part?


Greetings Dieter

[Dobie Gillis]

This is a link to a classic Lincoln parts supplier. It is for a rebuilt distributor for a 1954 Lincoln and would likely work for your car with little or no modification. You will need to send them your old distributor or pay a core charge.

http://lincolnoldparts.com/mm5/merch...ow=&range_high=

[scicala]

Originally Posted by Dobie Gillis

This is a link to a classic Lincoln parts supplier. It is for a rebuilt distributor for a 1954 Lincoln and would likely work for your car with little or no modification. You will need to send them your old distributor or pay a core charge.

http://lincolnoldparts.com/mm5/merch...w=&range_high=

A 1954 distributor is not correct for what Dieter is talking about. He needs one with centrifugal advance if he is going to use a modern 4 barrel carburetor.

Dieter, if you are going that way, why not contact Oldmics for his 1957 distributor ?

[Oldmics]

Hi Sal

Dieter and I are in communication about the dizzy.

I did acquire that 56 setup.I"ll fill you in offline.

Oldmics

[Dobie Gillis]

Hmm, I guess I misread his post.

Dieter, the carb adapters are available online from Speedway Motors, Summit and other speed parts suppliers.

Here is a link to the Speedway Motors adapter.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Holley...pter,5551.html

It says "flathead" but also works on y-blocks.

[Ratfink1973]

Hello and thanks for the answers.
Now i wait for the answer from Oldmics about the Shopping costs to austria.with wich carburburator did you make the best experience? In Austria the Most People Take Edelbrock, because they mean they are Plug and Play in contrast to holley.
Greetings Dieter

[Dobie Gillis]

I have an Edelbrock Performer series 500 cfm and am very pleased with it. Holleys are good, too, but generally require more fiddling for optimal results.

[Ratfink1973]

Hello, is this the right distributor for my Lincoln?http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,7108
Greetings Dieter

[Dobie Gillis]

Yes, that's the one. Compare drive gear tooth count and swap the drive gears if necessary.