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Old 10-12-2017, 02:31 AM   #1
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Default camshaft nut problems

Good morning from the Baltic Sea,

Gertrude also (like grandmother) has problems with his teeth,
some are powdered others are missing, I want to miss her the third:
ASK:
1. Nut thread right, loosen normal anti clock wise?
2. Torque lbf ft / Nm x 1.356 ?
3. Have your tips to block the camshaft?

Mother glow, or should I reflex?

Guten Morgen von der Ostsee,
Gertrud hat ebenfalls (wie Großmutter), Probleme mit den Zähnen,
einige sind pulverisiert andere fehlen, ich will ihr die Dritten verpassen:
FRAGEN:
1. Mutter Gewinde rechts, Lösen normal anti clock wise?
2. Drehmoment lbf ft/Nm x 1,356
3. Habt Ihr Tipps die camshaft zu blockieren?

Mutter glühen, oder soll ich die Abflexen?
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:54 AM   #2
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1) It is a standard right hand thread ( Clockwise to tighten , counter clockwise to loosen)
2) Brattons catalog suggests 100 ft lbs ( which I reckon is very very tight!)
3) A popular method is to jam a old cloth rag in the teeth ( or a piece of wood has been suggested)
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:45 AM   #3
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1) It is a standard right hand thread ( Clockwise to tighten , counter clockwise to loosen)
2) Brattons catalog suggests 100 ft lbs ( which I reckon is very very tight!)
3) A popular method is to jam a old cloth rag in the teeth ( or a piece of wood has been suggested)
thanks for your help!!

the nut is too tight - other tipps ?
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:12 AM   #4
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a)If the nut is the stock camshaft nut ( eg brattons 8770) you need the special fitting to go on it ( but you might get away with a good girder spanner)
b)If you have the modern hex nut then a good fitting socket

C) then select good fitting wrench/spanner to fit and bash the spanner with a hammer? I take no responsibilty!
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:58 AM   #5
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Smile Re: camshaft nut problems -finished-

fini finished its over

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:22 AM   #6
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Well that did the job!!! 2 thumbs up.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:04 AM   #7
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I once had a 24 inch breaker bar on that darned nut, pulling for all my life to loosen it. When it finally let go, I ended up doing a backward somersault!
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:12 AM   #8
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"Mutter gluehen". Yes, I have had to heat those darned nuts in the past to get them loose. Lord only knows what gorilla had tightened them in the past, but it was definitely overkill. The main problem with heating those nuts is that the fiber timing gear usually catches fire or at least gets hot enough to smoke. It's going to be replaced anyway, but who needs a fire here? Follow the advice of others and install the hex-headed nut. It will make life easier on the next guy, who has to change timing gears beside a lonely back road.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:21 AM   #9
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Most people that I know use a chisel and hammer to loosen that nut. They also tighten it in the same manner, which is why the nuts are so buggered up in the first place. Just place the chisel towards the outside edge of the flat side of the nut and hit it well with the hammer. It works, but is not kind to the nut.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:46 AM   #10
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see my thread and pic at 07:58 // high noon in Germany
its over fini fin end of my sorrows I cut the nut



that nut must be a torque 100 ft lbs will be 133 Newtonmeter

- absolut no posibility to become a loosen nut !!

many thanks to all of you
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:22 PM   #11
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Post-successful operation comments and suggestions are also for the benefit of other readers, who may be facing the same problem or for future reference for still other readers. More than one way to skin a cat, if that's what has to be done.
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:10 PM   #12
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Use a air ratchet
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:26 PM   #13
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fini finished its over

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I use 2 slats of wood 3/8 x 1-1/2 inches about 2-1/2 inches long. Place the slats on both sides of the timing gear and secure them with a "C" clamp. The bottom of the inside slat will come to rest on the pan and stop the timing gear from turning. I use an air impact wrench on the real tight cam nuts. This is a last resort, however, it always works for me.
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:41 AM   #15
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I use 2 slats of wood 3/8 x 1-1/2 inches about 2-1/2 inches long. Place the slats on both sides of the timing gear and secure them with a "C" clamp. The bottom of the inside slat will come to rest on the pan and stop the timing gear from turning. I use an air impact wrench on the real tight cam nuts. This is a last resort, however, it always works for me.
Dick, I agree with your method 100%
The" rag stuffed between the teeth " is a great way to damage the gear as it puts stress on the cam gear teeth and on the camshaft /oil pump drive gears. Yours is the only method that DAN McEACHERN, the manufacturer of the best quality Model A Ford timing gears recommends.

Brattons offers this modern cam nut.
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