The Ford Barn

John Butts in CT · 07-12-2016, 03:11 PM

The attached image appeared recently on the HAMB historic photos thread. I believe it's a shot of a 1928 Tudor being removed from a hotel ballroom after the "New Ford's" introduction gala. I say "after" because the Tudor is not under wraps. The men's clothing and the radiator cover on the vehicle on the right are consistent with cold weather... not LA or any other southern US city. The Beardmore truck, the vehicle on the right, and the Tudor are all LH drive (and, yes, some poor soul is steering the Tudor!). I can find no reference anywhere to a Beardmore firm of truckers/riggers. Here's the rub... that's not the Waldorf Hotel, so it's not NY. Where is it?

Special Coupe Frank · 07-12-2016, 03:25 PM

Can't Id the location, but as a bit of irony, that Tudor is being loaded onto the back of a GMC.

31 Model A · 07-12-2016, 03:46 PM

Looks like the old Beardmore Hotel, Clydebank, Scotland UK but not consistent with the LH drive.

31 Model A · 07-12-2016, 03:55 PM

How about Idaho?

https://buildingdata.energy.gov/proj...dmore-building

NOPE Too small for that.

Michael M · 07-12-2016, 07:47 PM

It may be the original Astor Hotel, which was coupled with the adjacent Waldorf Hotel. It occupied the site of the current Empire State Building until 1929 when the current Waldorf Astoria was built.

Special Coupe Frank · 07-12-2016, 09:01 PM

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How about Detroit or Chicago ?

One of the architectural details on the building are repeating rams' heads above/in-between the windows on that second story (where the car is coming out)...

eagle · 07-12-2016, 09:38 PM

Truck could be from Beardmore Chev in Omaha NE. They have been in business since 1919.

31 Model A · 07-12-2016, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Special Coupe Frank

How about Detroit or Chicago ?

One of the architectural details on the building are repeating rams' heads above/in-between the windows on that second story (where the car is coming out)...

First two cities I did searches on....looked at every bld on every site that I brought up, with those architectural items ...... nothing.

Eyes are hurting, hope someone finds it.

al's28/33 · 07-12-2016, 10:14 PM

Get your safety checklist out, how many violations can you guys spot ???

31 Model A · 07-12-2016, 11:05 PM

"In late November came the announcement that Americans had been waiting for: on December 2, 1927, the still-unnamed Ford automobile would be shown to the public, at locations revealed to each and every Ford dealer".

Special Coupe Frank · 07-13-2016, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by al's28/33

Get your safety checklist out, how many violations can you guys spot ???

I don't think "safety" had been invented yet...

Special Coupe Frank · 07-13-2016, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

"In late November came the announcement that Americans had been waiting for: on December 2, 1927, the still-unnamed Ford automobile would be shown to the public, at locations revealed to each and every Ford dealer".

Does there exist a list of these exhibition sites ?

31 Model A · 07-13-2016, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Special Coupe Frank

Does there exist a list of these exhibition sites ?

I didn't come across one. I was up til 1am and searched vintage photos from all the major cities from that time. Quite a few were taken from a far distance and some were on postcards. None jived with the thread photo.

I searched every avenue of subjects.

I wish good luck to the person who finds it. I think it will come down to someone actually knowing the bld and where it is.

Tom Wesenberg · 07-13-2016, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Special Coupe Frank

I don't think "safety" had been invented yet...

Common sense trumped OSHA.

bobbycoke · 07-13-2016, 07:48 AM

I do not know where this is but fyi in new york new Ford's were introduced at the Parklane Hotel as my Dad was the ford motor company's man on the job there. bcoke

31 Model A · 07-13-2016, 08:15 AM

Roosevelt Hotel, Manhattan!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From photos, it has change it's outward appearance some but......it looks like the real deal.

Midwest Tin · 07-13-2016, 08:54 AM

If you zoom in it appears to have the open end front bumpers. Any other very early items? Jim

Special Coupe Frank · 07-13-2016, 09:28 AM

What's the prize for correct ID of building and location ?

31 Model A · 07-13-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Special Coupe Frank

What's the prize for correct ID of building and location ?

SLEEP!!!!!

I have sent out a contact form to a person that has old hotels as his hobby. We'll see.............

Special Coupe Frank · 07-13-2016, 10:35 AM

How about this: ( the Rams head "gargoyles" were the key... )

07-12-2016, 03:11 PM	#1
John Butts in CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southeastern Connecticut Posts: 464	December, 1927 Introduction Mystery The attached image appeared recently on the HAMB historic photos thread. I believe it's a shot of a 1928 Tudor being removed from a hotel ballroom after the "New Ford's" introduction gala. I say "after" because the Tudor is not under wraps. The men's clothing and the radiator cover on the vehicle on the right are consistent with cold weather... not LA or any other southern US city. The Beardmore truck, the vehicle on the right, and the Tudor are all LH drive (and, yes, some poor soul is steering the Tudor!). I can find no reference anywhere to a Beardmore firm of truckers/riggers. Here's the rub... that's not the Waldorf Hotel, so it's not NY. Where is it?

07-12-2016, 03:25 PM	#2
Special Coupe Frank Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Penna Posts: 2,108	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery Can't Id the location, but as a bit of irony, that Tudor is being loaded onto the back of a GMC.

07-12-2016, 03:46 PM	#3
31 Model A Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Here I am in front of Todd's Grocery in 1931 selling Grit newspapers Posts: 2,548	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery Looks like the old Beardmore Hotel, Clydebank, Scotland UK but not consistent with the LH drive. __________________ "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience" "Hey Lady, ya wanna buy a Grit?" "If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you're old" Will Rogers

07-12-2016, 03:55 PM	#4
31 Model A Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Here I am in front of Todd's Grocery in 1931 selling Grit newspapers Posts: 2,548	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery How about Idaho? https://buildingdata.energy.gov/proj...dmore-building NOPE Too small for that. __________________ "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience" "Hey Lady, ya wanna buy a Grit?" "If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you're old" Will Rogers

07-12-2016, 09:01 PM	#6
Special Coupe Frank Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Penna Posts: 2,108	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) How about Detroit or Chicago ? One of the architectural details on the building are repeating rams' heads above/in-between the windows on that second story (where the car is coming out)...

07-12-2016, 09:38 PM	#7
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,025	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery Truck could be from Beardmore Chev in Omaha NE. They have been in business since 1919. __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."

07-12-2016, 10:14 PM	#9
al's28/33 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 1,591	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery Get your safety checklist out, how many violations can you guys spot ??? __________________ 1928 "A" Phaeton (mid year with many early features) 1933 "V8" Closed-Cab Pickup Truck (originally a Model B, 4 Cylinder dating to May, 1933)

07-12-2016, 11:05 PM	#10
31 Model A Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Here I am in front of Todd's Grocery in 1931 selling Grit newspapers Posts: 2,548	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery "In late November came the announcement that Americans had been waiting for: on December 2, 1927, the still-unnamed Ford automobile would be shown to the public, at locations revealed to each and every Ford dealer". __________________ "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience" "Hey Lady, ya wanna buy a Grit?" "If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you're old" Will Rogers

07-13-2016, 07:48 AM	#15
bobbycoke Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: pawlet vt/ port jefferson sta. ny Posts: 183	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery I do not know where this is but fyi in new york new Ford's were introduced at the Parklane Hotel as my Dad was the ford motor company's man on the job there. bcoke

07-13-2016, 08:15 AM	#16
31 Model A Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Here I am in front of Todd's Grocery in 1931 selling Grit newspapers Posts: 2,548	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery Roosevelt Hotel, Manhattan!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From photos, it has change it's outward appearance some but......it looks like the real deal. __________________ "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience" "Hey Lady, ya wanna buy a Grit?" "If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you're old" Will Rogers

07-13-2016, 08:54 AM	#17
Midwest Tin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kenosha, WI Posts: 1,001	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery If you zoom in it appears to have the open end front bumpers. Any other very early items? Jim

07-13-2016, 09:28 AM	#18
Special Coupe Frank Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Penna Posts: 2,108	Re: December, 1927 Introduction Mystery What's the prize for correct ID of building and location ?