King Pins

[Sod Buster]

Originally Posted by JSeery

If you are looking for a dropped axle check with Sid's.

https://www.droppedaxles.com/

The four inch drop axle states "1946-48 Dropped Axles are $250 plus shipping to drop yours" what does to drop yours mean?

So is a dropped axle $250.00 and shipping.

[rich b]

The $250 is Sid's charge to drop your axle; plus return shipping. Problem is your axle is cracked. Might give him a call to see if he has an axle he will sell outright.

You will have to heat and bend your steering arms to clear a dropped axle, or Sid can bend your arms if the spindles are sent with the axle.

[Sod Buster]

Originally Posted by rich b

The $250 is Sid's charge to drop your axle; plus return shipping. Problem is your axle is cracked. Might give him a call to see if he has an axle he will sell outright.

You will have to heat and bend your steering arms to clear a dropped axle, or Sid can bend your arms if the spindles are sent with the axle.

I called them and sent photos of the ugly, I am doubting if its a good core, Sid was not there but was supposed to take a look and let me know, its only a two hour drive so I will probably just haul it over myself, I wonder if they can remove the perch? The perch worries me, lol.

[JSeery]

I enjoy visiting them, I think that is the way to go.

[Sod Buster]

Well, two bolts left in the disassembly of my king pin job, lol, I still haven't decided if I'm going to try this in the garage, I'm going to sleep on it and hope it falls apart on its own tonight.

[Andy]

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Years ago, I bought a 32 axle at Pate. Someone had cut the ends off and welded on shoebox uprights. Terrible. I had some axle ends that came with some brakes. I made S shaped parts and welded the whole thing up. I made a weld jig. It turned out great.I ended up with a dropped and filled heavy 32 axle for the cost of some welding rod and the $10 for the axle. You can gouge the hell out of that crack and weld it back. I used 7018 and cleaned between passes.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by Sod Buster

Well, two bolts left in the disassembly of my king pin job, lol, I still haven't decided if I'm going to try this in the garage, I'm going to sleep on it and hope it falls apart on its own tonight.

Might want to just take the whole assembly to Sid's and let them show you how to go it.

[Tinker]

Take your time on the perches. Heat them then add some pm blaster / kroll. repeat.


After a couple heats and cool downs, put a big wrench on the upper part of the perch and see if it will turn. (nut off). If it does, wiggle it some, then add some heat and penetrating oil. It will loosen up.


If you get impatient. make sure at least the perch nut is on when you pound on it. Easy to smash it.




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[Tinker]

Originally Posted by Sod Buster

The four inch drop axle states "1946-48 Dropped Axles are $250 plus shipping to drop yours" what does to drop yours mean?

So is a dropped axle $250.00 and shipping.

I believe a 4" will only drop it a couple inches. As they are already dropped from factory 2" give or take.

As mentioned you send him an axle he drops it and sends it back.


Or just find a good stock axle and use it. No issues with stock. Will most likely need to bend spindle arms and messing with tie rods if you go dropped. I just added Sids as an option, not the only road. Driving is sometimes more fun then spending money and time for small cosmetics.

[Sod Buster]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Might want to just take the whole assembly to Sid's and let them show you how to go it.

If they don't fall out on their own tonight and Sid's will remove them that sounds like a plan, I have not heard back from them yet, the gal I talked to said he might have to check salvage yards if he didn't have one. I want a way back machine to the salvage yards they use, lol.

[Tinker]

Might be expensive to ship the whole front end off.


You can do it.

[tubman]

I remember seeing a thread on the H.A.M.B. about removing perch bolts. Basically, the guy who posted it made a very sturdy fixture that fit on the bolts and pulled them out. Pounding on them can make them "mushroom" and wedge them even more tightly in the axle. The "SEARCH" function over there is pretty good, so you may want to find it and take a look at it.

It is a smart move to let it sit upside down overnite; you may get lucky and they'll fall out by themselves. Gravity is your friend.

[Tinker]

This one tubman?


https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...damage.649367/

[Tinker]

Heat, oil, time, and getting it to turn with a wrench will work.


see post 7# 16#, worth a try. worked for me.

https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42660

I've popped a few with a press and the nut level too. I've also mushroomed one by smacking the sh!t out of it too.

Heat, time, and penetrating oil never has hurt no matter the method.


Good luck! Let us know what you did.

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[tubman]

That's it!

[Andy]

That was my thread. I would pull them for you if I was close. I can fix the threads if you damage them. I have not fixed any since I posted the thread!

[Sod Buster]

Since it was upside down I got a good light and could find no crack on the bottom side so I spent an hour crack filing, and do believe I managed to remove the crack I almost think it was a void in the iron, I had to go fairly deep but I do not think I removed to much meat as to make the axle unusable.
Some pics of it, tell me what you think.



I had to take some of the top ridge.





From the bottom. I'm thinking 1947 iron has to be over engineered to where with no sharp edges around the file location, the axle should be sound, what does everyone else think?

[Tinker]

maybe another run with the tig.

[cas3]

the civilized way to remove perch bolts is with a press. i made a chunk of heavy wall pipe ground at the correct angle to hold the pin vertical, and clamp a 2x6 over the top of the press to hold the whole axle and wishbone level with ratchet straps. then press, if it dont move with big pressure, heat the axle a little bit and wait for the BANG, then it commin out. two people is a plus, but i am usually too impatient to wait for help. this process is the results of the progression from wrecking parts in my youth by hammering, then when affluent enough to own an air hammer to wreck them even worse, to finally using a press. every growing boy should have one, or at least a good neighbor . sid and his pa, okie joe place a core charge of only 50 bucks i believe on your axle as its not s much in demand as the narrower 28 to 36 types on most "project builds". i'm sure they will do it for you at a price, but find a press and go for it

[Tinker]

just for fun... make sure when pressing the pins out run the nut up flush to the pin. adds surface area and support to the pin. It'll pop. Slow as you go, let the pressure settle. Don't crank the crap out of it.


harbor freight sells a okay starter 12 ton press for around 150$