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Bobster · 06-09-2010, 09:49 AM

I think I have everything figured out for repair to my Roadster except how to install the inner seal in the housing. Ford Service Bulletin shows special tool to install the seal. How do I install using regular tools? The drum bearing is an easy change out. Thanks for any help. BW

Tom Wesenberg · 06-09-2010, 09:52 AM

I used a 3 foot piece of threaded rod, some washers and nuts to make a long seal driver.

Bobster · 06-09-2010, 10:48 AM

Thanks, Tom! Love all this grease!

Bruce · 06-09-2010, 01:20 PM

Not to plug Model A Times, but I understand that they ran a multi-issue piece on rearend (see Barry, you don't have to say ASS in front of the children) rebuilding this year. I'm hoping for a pass-along from one of my club members. If it helps me with the Prussian "Blues" then I may have to reup my subscription.

Ron/IA · 06-09-2010, 02:22 PM

Bruce - If I remember right, the Model A Times differential article was a reprint of Tom Endy's. It is available at this web site:

www.ocmafc.org/

Click on "Tech Articles", and then click "Differential Seminar". You will get all you ever wanted to know about rebuilding rear-ends, including installing the inner seal.

I hope it helps.

Bassman/NZ · 06-09-2010, 05:15 PM

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I just used a piece of pipe with a suitable size washer welded on the end, about 1/2" back from the end so it passes through the seal. Knocked mine in with this and a rubber hammer.

Bobster · 06-09-2010, 05:35 PM

I can see why it is necessary to allow a length of the seating tool to "center" the seal in the housing. Thanks for all the input. I will clean everything up and order parts. Got all of it broken down this afternoon. Thanks for all the help from Ford Barn. I have Les Andrews' book for reference, but little "tips" are most helpful. This is a great forum! Lots of info and good people! BW

Stinch · 06-10-2010, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Turley

MAC's sells an inexpensive tool, their part # A4246 for installing these seals. $7.95. Screw it on to a piece of 1/2" pipe. Other vendors probably have it also.
Don Turley
www.donturley.com

I bought the same tool from one of the vendors. Make the job very easy.

Brentwood Bob · 06-10-2010, 02:46 PM

Make sure you spend the time to clean the inside of the axle housings. I used a round toilet brush and lacquer thinner. Kerosene just wasn't strong enough. I used a rubber plug for the narrow end from Ace Hardware, and a plug for the grease zerk hole, and let the full housing soak. I would follow with simple green before painting the exterior. Clean is good.

MAG · 06-10-2010, 06:29 PM

I bought one of the insertion tools from a vendor. It was a 1/2" female pipe coupler welded inside a washer of appropriate inside and outside diameter. Easy to make.

Bobster · 06-11-2010, 05:02 PM

Got parts to reassemble the right rear axle of my 1928 Roadster. Some consternation as to how to put back together. Inner axle seal does not have a spring behind the rubber. There is some wear on the axle where the seal would ride if the seal was worn out. You can feel the ridges from old seal wear as it eroded to the spring. This new seal is a "made in "Taiwan" part from a source / parts provider with no spring behind the rubber. All axle seals I have looked at for years have the spring to keep the rubber seal intact. Don't want to reassemble and have the same problems exhibit themselves after all this work. Who makes the best inner axle seal to use? Thanks, BW

06-09-2010, 09:49 AM	#1
Bobster Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 52	Axle seal again I think I have everything figured out for repair to my Roadster except how to install the inner seal in the housing. Ford Service Bulletin shows special tool to install the seal. How do I install using regular tools? The drum bearing is an easy change out. Thanks for any help. BW __________________ BW in WV

06-09-2010, 09:52 AM	#2
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Axle seal again I used a 3 foot piece of threaded rod, some washers and nuts to make a long seal driver.

06-09-2010, 10:48 AM	#3
Bobster Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 52	Re: Axle seal again Thanks, Tom! Love all this grease! __________________ BW in WV

06-09-2010, 01:20 PM	#4
Bruce Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 489	Re: Axle seal again Not to plug Model A Times, but I understand that they ran a multi-issue piece on rearend (see Barry, you don't have to say ASS in front of the children) rebuilding this year. I'm hoping for a pass-along from one of my club members. If it helps me with the Prussian "Blues" then I may have to reup my subscription.

06-09-2010, 02:22 PM	#5
Ron/IA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Amana IA Posts: 527	Re: Axle seal again Bruce - If I remember right, the Model A Times differential article was a reprint of Tom Endy's. It is available at this web site: www.ocmafc.org/ Click on "Tech Articles", and then click "Differential Seminar". You will get all you ever wanted to know about rebuilding rear-ends, including installing the inner seal. I hope it helps. __________________ Ron/IA 1929 Fordor Steelback Hawk A Model A Ford Club http://hawkamodelaclub.org/

06-09-2010, 05:15 PM	#6
Bassman/NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 2,001	Re: Axle seal again Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I just used a piece of pipe with a suitable size washer welded on the end, about 1/2" back from the end so it passes through the seal. Knocked mine in with this and a rubber hammer.

06-09-2010, 05:35 PM	#7
Bobster Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 52	Re: Axle seal again I can see why it is necessary to allow a length of the seating tool to "center" the seal in the housing. Thanks for all the input. I will clean everything up and order parts. Got all of it broken down this afternoon. Thanks for all the help from Ford Barn. I have Les Andrews' book for reference, but little "tips" are most helpful. This is a great forum! Lots of info and good people! BW __________________ BW in WV

06-10-2010, 02:46 PM	#9
Brentwood Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: brentwood, ca Posts: 4,241	Re: Axle seal again Make sure you spend the time to clean the inside of the axle housings. I used a round toilet brush and lacquer thinner. Kerosene just wasn't strong enough. I used a rubber plug for the narrow end from Ace Hardware, and a plug for the grease zerk hole, and let the full housing soak. I would follow with simple green before painting the exterior. Clean is good.

06-10-2010, 06:29 PM	#10
MAG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 925	Re: Axle seal again I bought one of the insertion tools from a vendor. It was a 1/2" female pipe coupler welded inside a washer of appropriate inside and outside diameter. Easy to make.

06-11-2010, 05:02 PM	#11
Bobster Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 52	Re: Axle seal again - revisited Got parts to reassemble the right rear axle of my 1928 Roadster. Some consternation as to how to put back together. Inner axle seal does not have a spring behind the rubber. There is some wear on the axle where the seal would ride if the seal was worn out. You can feel the ridges from old seal wear as it eroded to the spring. This new seal is a "made in "Taiwan" part from a source / parts provider with no spring behind the rubber. All axle seals I have looked at for years have the spring to keep the rubber seal intact. Don't want to reassemble and have the same problems exhibit themselves after all this work. Who makes the best inner axle seal to use? Thanks, BW __________________ BW in WV