Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-14-2016, 08:07 PM   #1
ItsA31
Member
 
ItsA31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 77
Default Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

I recently bought a Model A and it came with 17 inch rims and tires. The tires are near new and the rims are very straight. The tires are Lucas brand. Four rims are made by Ford, and one is made by Kelsey Hayes (I think).

I want to sell this set but I have no idea what its worth. What is the value of this set?

Thank you!


Please, no spamers or resellers.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN5843.jpg (79.7 KB, 46 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5841.jpg (48.5 KB, 39 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5830.jpg (74.3 KB, 39 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5831.jpg (57.4 KB, 35 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5832.jpg (68.2 KB, 40 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5833.jpg (59.9 KB, 39 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5834.jpg (71.3 KB, 43 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5835.jpg (63.6 KB, 37 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5836.jpg (67.7 KB, 30 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5837.jpg (70.7 KB, 25 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5838.jpg (63.8 KB, 28 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5839.jpg (66.6 KB, 23 views)
__________________
G. Alexander (Alex) Chompff
Fervently Maintaining a 'State of Arrested Decay'
ItsA31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2016, 08:57 PM   #2
ronn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,763
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

I would say 100.-125. a wheel

16's are a little more popular, but the new tires make a real nice set.

I have seen them listed for more, but they generally dont sell.
ronn is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 09-14-2016, 09:56 PM   #3
JM 35 Sedan
Senior Member
 
JM 35 Sedan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland
Posts: 9,999
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

Maybe approach this by determining the value of the wheels and tires separately, then combine those total's to determine a final total value.
Good straight/true, non rust damaged 17" wire wheels should be worth ~ $50.00 each. The tires could be appraised by prorating their value now based on age and % of wear considering the value of 5 of these same tires when new. Taking a wild guess saying ~ $50.00 each as an example. So, the final value for these five tires and wheels might be ~ $500.00.
__________________
John

"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein
JM 35 Sedan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2016, 10:13 PM   #4
DavidG
Senior Member
 
DavidG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 6,627
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

These days, for reasons that seemingly aren't self-evident, it's the 18" wheels that are the most in demand and therefore the highest priced of the three sizes of '32-'35 welded spoke wheels. Given that, it's the tires that have the greater part of the value of this set. $500 is about right if not a bit high.
DavidG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2016, 11:45 PM   #5
Fred A
Senior Member
 
Fred A's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Encino California, near Burbank
Posts: 667
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

Where was ronn when I was selling my 17"s? Campaigned the wheels out west and finally got $25 ea for select wheels in different colors because of the selection. Only reason they have any value at all is they look like other Ford sizes. The tire availability for the 17"s is not too good around here and if not outdated. If a guy can use 3.5" wide wheels it better be 18". The Lucas tires are a great value! As for the 16"s, if it were not for the 4.5" bent spoke Kelsey 40 spoke, a specific description, I will not use 16"s for anything these days where larger diameter is trending strongly. WWII was a long time back where 16"s were most available. All this opinion does not apply to restorations. Good Luck: Fred A
Fred A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 12:09 AM   #6
Marvin/TN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chattanooga, TN area
Posts: 820
Send a message via AIM to Marvin/TN
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

I would think it would depend on how old the tires are. I have some tires on my 30 Coupe that are over 50 years old but they don't add a nickle to the value of the 17" wheels on it. Most tire stores around here won't even fix a flat if the tire is more than 3 years old
Marvin/TN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 07:14 AM   #7
ronn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,763
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

Where was ronn when I was selling my 17"s? Campaigned the wheels out west and finally got $25 ea for select wheels in different colors because of the selection. Only reason they have any value at all is they look like other Ford sizes. The tire availability for the 17"s is not too good around here and if not outdated. If a guy can use 3.5" wide wheels it better be 18". The Lucas tires are a great value! As for the 16"s, if it were not for the 4.5" bent spoke Kelsey 40 spoke, a specific description, I will not use 16"s for anything these days where larger diameter is trending strongly. WWII was a long time back where 16"s were most available. All this opinion does not apply to restorations. Good Luck: Fred A

Fred, have sold many 16's with roller tires for 100. a rim-they go pretty well here in the east. sent a set of 4 to Russia 3 years ago for 440. and mind you, the tires were worthless-just good 16 rims.

regarding the 18 inch rims being the most in demand- have a great set here for 100. a rim. I find nobody but me likes the 18's where Im at-all about 16's!

guess it all depends how long you want to sit on them.............
ronn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 07:30 AM   #8
scooder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,573
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

"I will not use 16"s for anything these days where larger diameter is trending strongly."
What does this statement mean? I honestly don't know what "trending strongly" means, and how does it effect what size wheels and tires a guy can use, and the value of the 17" wheels and tires?
Martin.
scooder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 08:29 AM   #9
ronn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,763
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

Martin,
every other model A today has 16" wheels-think that is what is meant by trending strongly..............

just take a look on ebay!
ronn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 09:32 AM   #10
Fred A
Senior Member
 
Fred A's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Encino California, near Burbank
Posts: 667
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

Beyond quotes, clearly 16"s were king of the refit for many decades when the size of new car wheels was shrinking to as little as 14" in the mid 1950s. Now the "trend" is toward increasingly taller wheels among the new and restyled cars. The march toward 18" wheels is a reflection of this style although not well supported in the historical record it has a familiar look to many of those building their 21st century cars. We were discussing 17" wheels. 16's can come in many wider forms, the ronn deflects to the irrelevant. In the east parts markets can vary wildly and my California selling experience must be considered a local phenomenon but still remains a useful comparison. When discussing the values of old Ford parts this regional difference shows itself. The comparison of wheels and wheels with roller tires needs a warning that old tires commonly mask rough and rusty secrets, destroying the true value of the wheel. Good Luck: Fred A
Fred A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 12:13 PM   #11
ronn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,763
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

the ronn deflects to the irrelevant-sorry I offended you big guy!

chow............
ronn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 01:19 PM   #12
Charlie Stephens
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,363
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

I would start by checking the date codes on the tires, from what I have read if they are over 10 years old they a only good for rollers so you can zero out their value. The Kelsey wheel might bring $200 (that is just a rough guess, you need to research it). I agree with post #3 when he says about $50 for the Ford wheels. Be sure to advertise them in the newsletters of your local Early Ford V8 Clubs as shipping could be more than the wheels tires are worth.

Charlie Stephens
Charlie Stephens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 01:37 PM   #13
Minnepiper
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Twin Cities
Posts: 2
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

I sure see a lot of old rims like that on home made hay wagons.
Minnepiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 02:14 PM   #14
Barn Junk
Senior Member
 
Barn Junk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: WA state
Posts: 764
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

QUOTE "I recently bought a Model A and it came with 17 inch rims and tires. The tires are near new and the rims are very straight. The tires are Lucas brand. Four rims are made by Ford, and one is made by Kelsey Hayes (I think). "
________________________________________________

The one different one looks like a "MOTOR WHEEL CO" replacement for a 1933-34 Ford. They are riveted together and have their logo on the inside of the rim. They are somewhat rare but only valued somewhat more than the stock Ford wheels and not usually in the KH class.
Barn Junk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 02:54 PM   #15
Detonator
Senior Member
 
Detonator's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Santa Cruz
Posts: 275
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

A nice 17 inch, K-H Bent-Spoke, single wheel was on eBay a week or so ago. Buy-it-Now was $95. Lugs were a little sloppy. It didn't sell.
__________________
Seabright Hot Rods
Detonator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 03:11 PM   #16
rockfla
Senior Member
 
rockfla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 1,535
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

I'm trying to figure out is it a set of 5 that he has OR 15 that he has pictured or some iteration there of????? I see regular spoke, bent spoke, cream, red, black tires, grey tires exactly what does he have he's wanting to sell????
rockfla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 03:35 PM   #17
39topless
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,027
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

He is showing five tires /wheels for sale. His has photos of the front and back of each ( 5 X 2 =10) along with a close up of the tire treads.
39topless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 03:36 PM   #18
ronn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,763
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

5 wheels-showing you both sides-new tires, so have no idea why people are suggesting the tires are no good/old?

question was pretty clear to me......
ronn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 03:50 PM   #19
rockfla
Senior Member
 
rockfla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 1,535
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

Look at the picture. The 5 tires together are nice and black, the tires on the red rims are grey/weathered looking and why cream and red wheels???? The 5 in the first picture are all cream, the tires are all black including the second picture of just the tread...if those are the wheels, why or whats with the reds ones???? I might be interested in them BUT getting them from Cal to Fla would be a costly bit!!!! ANd what exactly is he trying to sell???

Last edited by rockfla; 09-15-2016 at 03:53 PM. Reason: added to it
rockfla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2016, 04:13 PM   #20
ItsA31
Member
 
ItsA31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 77
Default Re: Help with value of 17 inch rims (1933-1934)

Want to sell five wheels.
All tires are the same.
Looks like someone painted the rims yellow a long time ago, but didn't necessarily paint the backs (hence, red paint).
The back side of the tires are dirty from driving (isn't everyone's?).
Pretty simple really...
__________________
G. Alexander (Alex) Chompff
Fervently Maintaining a 'State of Arrested Decay'
ItsA31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:57 AM.