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Old 02-09-2020, 12:56 AM   #41
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Brian I thought of doing just that but that bearing has the wrong size ID for my application. I have a T5 trans that uses a 15MM ID bearing


Oh, ok, try a 6303 2RS, sizes 42 x 15 x 13
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Old 02-09-2020, 06:27 AM   #42
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You could always go with a bushing. A lot of people prefer the bushing anyway.
J, I think I'll have the same problem with the size I need. Unless, there's a bushing that has a little bigger OD
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Old 02-09-2020, 06:40 AM   #43
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As long as the input shaft is in good shape and wonīt chew upp the bronze a bushing goes a long way...and they never fail locking up destroying the surface of the shaft.
Get a piece of bronze and make it what size you need.
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:12 AM   #44
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Brian I thought of doing just that but that bearing has the wrong size ID for my application. I have a T5 trans that uses a 15MM ID bearing


Oh, ok, try a 6303 2RS, sizes 42 x 15 x 13
Brian, the 13mm will not be flush on the flywheel.
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:16 AM   #45
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As long as the input shaft is in good shape and wonīt chew upp the bronze a bushing goes a long way...and they never fail locking up destroying the surface of the shaft.
Get a piece of bronze and make it what size you need.
Flat, that's a great idea! I found a piece of stock on McMaster Carr that's made of 841 self lubricating bronze. There's lots of different materials to choose from.
Is the 841 the best choice or should I be looking at something different? While I'm not capable of making this myself, I have a good friend that's a machinist.
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:36 AM   #46
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The bushing only "slips" when clutch is used so just about any oilbronze will probably work fine...think about how abused that bushing must have been in a heavy truck jumping gears trying to haul rock...and they survived.
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Old 02-09-2020, 11:20 AM   #47
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Get a piece of bronze and make it what size you need.
Yes, I was assuming you would be making it. Sorry I wasn't clear about that!

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Old 02-09-2020, 03:06 PM   #48
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ford wanted to make sure the dowles in the crank did not come out that,s why the plate is there
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Old 02-10-2020, 07:56 AM   #49
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Flat, that's a great idea! I found a piece of stock on McMaster Carr that's made of 841 self lubricating bronze. There's lots of different materials to choose from.
Is the 841 the best choice or should I be looking at something different? While I'm not capable of making this myself, I have a good friend that's a machinist.
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https://www.verntardel.com/store/p34...t_Bushing.html

No need to go that far. Vern Tardel sells the bronze pilot bushing from those French flatheads for $8.00.
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https://www.verntardel.com/store/p34...t_Bushing.html

No need to go that far. Vern Tardel sells the bronze pilot bushing from those French flatheads for $8.00.
You would have to know the dimensions to know if it would work.
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Old 02-10-2020, 08:56 AM   #51
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Same as the standard ball bearing.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:01 AM   #52
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Same as the standard ball bearing.
Ya, I assumed it was, it needs to matching up with the T5 input shaft and aluminum flywheel dimensions.

Per the dimensions being posted in this thread, Ronnie measured a bronze bushing at 1.573 which is smaller than the flywheel being used at 1.574 (needs to be a press fit). Also the stock Ford bushing ID is .669 and the T5 input shaft is .590. That leads to the need to machine a bushing vs purchasing an original Ford bushing.

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Old 02-10-2020, 09:14 AM   #53
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You would have to know the dimensions to know if it would work.
True. I have one at home and will try to measure it.
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Old 02-10-2020, 02:27 PM   #54
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Making the bushing out of oil-lite bronze bearing stock would be the easiest solution to the problem. While I personally would never run a bronze bushing in this situation its really the best way to go. My personal experience that being extremely high mileage using a pilot bearing I have never experienced any bearing failures. I wonder if it would also help with fuel economy due to less friction compared to a bushing.
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Making the bushing out of oil-lite bronze bearing stock would be the easiest solution to the problem. While I personally would never run a bronze bushing in this situation its really the best way to go. My personal experience that being extremely high mileage using a pilot bearing I have never experienced any bearing failures. I wonder if it would also help with fuel economy due to less friction compared to a bushing.
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The bushing/bearing never rotates unless clutchpedal is down...so canīt affect fueleconomy in any measurable way.
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making the bushing out of oil-lite bronze bearing stock would be the easiest solution to the problem. While i personally would never run a bronze bushing in this situation its really the best way to go. My personal experience that being extremely high mileage using a pilot bearing i have never experienced any bearing failures. I wonder if it would also help with fuel economy due to less friction compared to a bushing.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:56 PM   #57
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Ram Clutch responded to me today and told me the hole in the flywheel is 1.575.
I ordered another pilot bearing to check the size. Maybe the first one I received was a little small (1.572). If not, I'll have my buddy make me an oilite bushing.
Thank you to everyone that responded and I'll check back when the new bearing arrives.
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Old 02-10-2020, 07:06 PM   #58
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Making the bushing out of oil-lite bronze bearing stock would be the easiest solution to the problem. While I personally would never run a bronze bushing in this situation its really the best way to go. My personal experience that being extremely high mileage using a pilot bearing I have never experienced any bearing failures. I wonder if it would also help with fuel economy due to less friction compared to a bushing.
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Maybe it would sound like a 'gear drive' when you have the clutch in? All those ball bearings knocking around . . . has to be cool doesn't it?
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:26 AM   #59
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Just measured Tardel's bronze bushing and it came to 1.577" on the nose.
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Just measured Tardel's bronze bushing and it came to 1.577" on the nose.
With a Ford T5 you would be in business, the pilot bearing size of the input shaft is .668 and believe the original Ford is around .669. But the S10 input shaft pilot bearing requires about .590 I think, so it would still require some type of reducer bushing.
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