The Ford Barn

Charlie ny · 08-18-2017, 06:33 AM

Pete F a newer member here ( I think ) has a cool web site, pandpvintagerepair.com , pretty cool. Pete is in Bloomfield N Y about
70 miles from me, I gottra go visit him.
Charlie ny

VeryTangled · 08-18-2017, 06:44 AM

Hi Charlie, This qualifies as pretty cool in my book!

Original, then rotated. No info on what it's from, but Cadillac made a V-16, right?

tubman · 08-18-2017, 08:47 AM

Cadillac made two different versions; an overhead valve version in the early thirties and a flathead(!) from 1937 to 1940. Marmon also made a V16.

Charlie ny · 08-19-2017, 06:28 PM

Duesenburg
Charlie ny

jrvariel48 · 08-20-2017, 05:37 AM

Very cool! Pete gave me some great direction and tips for tuning my blown flathead.

Pete F · 08-20-2017, 06:02 AM

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The V16 Caddy engines I build I have designed those pistons to raise the compression from 6:1 up to 8:1 and Jerry at Schneider Cams cam up with a different grind along with Manley stainless steel valves.
I do all the mods so they run better and are more reliable on today's gas.
Thanks Charlie for the kind words.

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deuce lover · 08-20-2017, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie ny

Duesenburg
Charlie ny

Duesenberg's were straight 8's

glennsanders · 08-20-2017, 07:20 AM

What's going on Charlie,had a guy here yesterday buying parts . Said he was sending carburator out to be fixed somewhere.I gave him your number.I know he will be happy with your work.

larry butcher · 08-20-2017, 08:25 AM

"Peerless" also made a V16

tubman · 08-20-2017, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by larry butcher

"Peerless" also made a V16

Quite right, but they only made one prototype, so it wasn't a production engine.

Ol' Ron · 08-20-2017, 09:00 AM

Be nice to hear that run. Had a friend that had a V12 Caddy, can't remember if it was a flatty or oHV.

Charlie ny · 08-20-2017, 10:12 AM

Guys,
If you check Pete's web site you'll also see a Duesenburg double overhead cam cyl head he brought back into life. At a quick glance I mistakenly thought that was what Jeff posted.
Gotta met this Pete guy.
Charlie ny

VeryTangled · 08-20-2017, 11:30 AM

Charlie, I'm with you. The green on that engine stand had me thinking Duesenberg straight-eight until I looked a third time then I noticed a whole other cylinder bank!

Pete F · 08-20-2017, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie ny

Guys,
If you check Pete's web site you'll also see a Duesenburg double overhead cam cyl head he brought back into life. At a quick glance I mistakenly thought that was what Jeff posted.
Gotta met this Pete guy.
Charlie ny

Next time you are coming through let me know I'll give you the nickel tour and we can break bread.

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Pete F · 08-20-2017, 05:27 PM

Hey guys
I know it's a Ford site but here is a little info on Duesenberg.
They were made in Auburn Indiana, they were 430 cubic inch ,they were four valves a cylinder and weighed 1200lbs.
And the biggest thing I think.
When Fords were $800 Duesenberg's were $40,000.
Today when our classics are worth $20-$80,000
Duesenberg engines in rebuildable shape are in the range of $120,000.00 and the cars are a$700,000 up.
Just for the record I would never trade my 34 Ford for one but I would take the money!!

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Ol' Ron · 08-20-2017, 07:45 PM

I Think Jay Leno has re popped the Duzy cyl head, as they were a weak link casting. Be interesting to see one.

Pete F · 08-20-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

I Think Jay Leno has re popped the Duzy cyl head, as they were a weak link casting. Be interesting to see one.

He did come up with his own casting but I haven't seen one.
These head are a lot of work ,hours to set valve lash.

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VeryTangled · 08-20-2017, 08:30 PM

Okay Pete, your fault for letting us peek in your garage...

What details can you share about the powerplant in that hot little roadster (correction: coupe) trying to hide in the background?

Pete F · 08-20-2017, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryTangled

Okay Pete, your fault for letting us peek in your garage...

What details can you share about the powerplant in that hot little roadster trying to hide in the background?

Are you asking about my 34 or the Austin Healey.
The 34 is my baby that I have been building for the last 10 years,
It a .060 over 239 with Schneider 270-f cam , 1.5 & 1.6 Manley valves ,Vertex mag, Halibrand quick change and 4 Holley 94's.
The body,engine and drivetrain are done I,m just waiting for my brother the engineer to finish reprofiling the heads. We are doing some chamber mods.
And of course since I'm the carb guy my car must have 4-2 barrels that work.
The Healey is a clients that was in for service work.

tubman · 08-20-2017, 08:59 PM

I'm impressed; it takes a hell of a carb guy to make 4 94's work on a 248" engine.

08-18-2017, 06:33 AM	#1
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Check out Pete F's web site Pete F a newer member here ( I think ) has a cool web site, pandpvintagerepair.com , pretty cool. Pete is in Bloomfield N Y about 70 miles from me, I gottra go visit him. Charlie ny Last edited by Charlie ny; 08-18-2017 at 06:34 AM. Reason: respell repair

08-18-2017, 08:47 AM	#3
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,316	Re: Check out Pete F's web site Cadillac made two different versions; an overhead valve version in the early thirties and a flathead(!) from 1937 to 1940. Marmon also made a V16.

08-19-2017, 06:28 PM	#4
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: Check out Pete F's web site Duesenburg Charlie ny

08-20-2017, 05:37 AM	#5
jrvariel48 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,425	Re: Check out Pete F's web site Very cool! Pete gave me some great direction and tips for tuning my blown flathead.

08-20-2017, 06:02 AM	#6
Pete F Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bloomfield,ny Posts: 130	Check out Pete F's web site Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The V16 Caddy engines I build I have designed those pistons to raise the compression from 6:1 up to 8:1 and Jerry at Schneider Cams cam up with a different grind along with Manley stainless steel valves. I do all the mods so they run better and are more reliable on today's gas. Thanks Charlie for the kind words. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

08-20-2017, 07:20 AM	#8
glennsanders Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Sharpsburg md Posts: 480	Re: Check out Pete F's web site What's going on Charlie,had a guy here yesterday buying parts . Said he was sending carburator out to be fixed somewhere.I gave him your number.I know he will be happy with your work.

08-20-2017, 08:25 AM	#9
larry butcher Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: taneytown Md Posts: 92	Re: Check out Pete F's web site "Peerless" also made a V16

08-20-2017, 09:00 AM	#11
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: Check out Pete F's web site Be nice to hear that run. Had a friend that had a V12 Caddy, can't remember if it was a flatty or oHV.

08-20-2017, 10:12 AM	#12
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: Check out Pete F's web site Guys, If you check Pete's web site you'll also see a Duesenburg double overhead cam cyl head he brought back into life. At a quick glance I mistakenly thought that was what Jeff posted. Gotta met this Pete guy. Charlie ny

08-20-2017, 11:30 AM	#13
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: Check out Pete F's web site Charlie, I'm with you. The green on that engine stand had me thinking Duesenberg straight-eight until I looked a third time then I noticed a whole other cylinder bank! __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?

08-20-2017, 05:27 PM	#15
Pete F Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bloomfield,ny Posts: 130	Re: Check out Pete F's web site Hey guys I know it's a Ford site but here is a little info on Duesenberg. They were made in Auburn Indiana, they were 430 cubic inch ,they were four valves a cylinder and weighed 1200lbs. And the biggest thing I think. When Fords were $800 Duesenberg's were $40,000. Today when our classics are worth $20-$80,000 Duesenberg engines in rebuildable shape are in the range of $120,000.00 and the cars are a$700,000 up. Just for the record I would never trade my 34 Ford for one but I would take the money!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

08-20-2017, 07:45 PM	#16
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: Check out Pete F's web site I Think Jay Leno has re popped the Duzy cyl head, as they were a weak link casting. Be interesting to see one.

08-20-2017, 08:59 PM	#20
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,316	Re: Check out Pete F's web site I'm impressed; it takes a hell of a carb guy to make 4 94's work on a 248" engine.