Awwe Crap!

[Capt Kirk]

I will try to get some better pictures of the ring gear when I get home.
Kirk

[JM 35 Sedan]

Maybe a good closeup shot of the pinion gear teeth as well, unless it's already posted, and I just missed it.

[Capt Kirk]

It's hard getting the right angle on these. They look ok to me...the wear appears to be in the center of the teeth with unworn tooth all around it.

[Capt Kirk]

Gaskets, seals and brake shoes ordered today. Still searching for the elusive axle shaft.

[Paul Dobbin]

Same thing happened yesterday to a friends 35 Ford Fordor. Broke the left axle and was lucky enough to not have the wheel come off. I and a couple friends went and towed him home, 1/2 mile. Lucky again.
Anybody have a good 35 Ford rear axle for sale or know somebody near Atlanta or Knoxville who will install it?
[email protected]

[mhaim]

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This is on eBay right now. Search his listing heading. Been for sale for quite a while. His shipping is worst than Mac's.

[Capt Kirk]

Originally Posted by Paul Dobbin

Same thing happened yesterday to a friends 35 Ford Fordor. Broke the left axle and was lucky enough to not have the wheel come off. I and a couple friends went and towed him home, 1/2 mile. Lucky again.
Anybody have a good 35 Ford rear axle for sale or know somebody near Atlanta or Knoxville who will install it?
[email protected]

I've got a 40 axle in mine. I think installing the shaft is going to be the easy part. Diff comes out easy and comes apart easy. Finding a reasonably priced axle is going to be the hard part.

[Capt Kirk]

Originally Posted by Paul Dobbin

Same thing happened yesterday to a friends 35 Ford Fordor. Broke the left axle and was lucky enough to not have the wheel come off. I and a couple friends went and towed him home, 1/2 mile. Lucky again.
Anybody have a good 35 Ford rear axle for sale or know somebody near Atlanta or Knoxville who will install it?
[email protected]

Call this place. I've never done business with them but asked them if they had my axle and they didn't. Was told that they get parts every week and to keep calling. They might have the axle you're looking for.

http://lbcunited.com/earlyford2/inde...f0094c995cd508

[Paul Dobbin]

OK thanks! Next question is should 3 old guys do this ourselves, even without all the speciaity tools the books say we'll need?

[Capt Kirk]

Originally Posted by Paul Dobbin

OK thanks! Next question is should 3 old guys do this ourselves, even without all the speciaity tools the books say we'll need?

I guess it depends on the extent of the rebuild. If you're changing gears then things get a bit more complicated. I'm changing an axle...not pulling the pinion gear and am using the same ring gear. Axle housing gasket thicknesses are critical for carrier bearing pre-load. My bearings are in great condition so I'm just changing seals and the axle and replacing the gasket with the same thickness that I removed. I haven't done a full gear change on a banjo but have done a lot of research. I'd do a banjo all day long as opposed to a modern diff!

[Talkwrench]

Three old brains will work out fine on building a diff, and that's the hardest tool.
You really don't need anything major, maybe a dial gauge the best thing is an engineers vice so you can turn it whichever way as your building..

[Capt Kirk]

Originally Posted by Talkwrench

Three old brains will work out fine on building a diff, and that's the hardest tool.
You really don't need anything major, maybe a dial gauge the best thing is an engineers vice so you can turn it whichever way as your building..

Three old brains is two old brains more than it took back in the 30's and 40's.
These old cars aren't princesses...It seems like some are making them princesses when they don't need to be. Farmer John worked on these cars without "knats ass" instrumentation. I respect that history.

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by Paul Dobbin

OK thanks! Next question is should 3 old guys do this ourselves, even without all the speciaity tools the books say we'll need?

As the others have said, work smart and work safe. Good friends, ingenuity, a few common tools, a well stocked garage refrigerator, what more do you want? ...Oh, well, of course the dancing girls!

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by Paul Dobbin

OK thanks! Next question is should 3 old guys do this ourselves, even without all the speciaity tools the books say we'll need?

Three old guys might work a lot better than this one old guy who rebuilt a '35 rear alone this past May, but in all fairness to some friends, I turned down offers from two good helpers because of the confined work area, and I wanted to take this at a slow pace, covering every detail, and documenting each step with pictures..

[KGS]

Originally Posted by Capt Kirk

Call this place. I've never done business with them but asked them if they had my axle and they didn't. Was told that they get parts every week and to keep calling. They might have the axle you're looking for.

http://lbcunited.com/earlyford2/inde...f0094c995cd508

Capt Kirk, Did you try Third Gen as suggested in post 162?
Paul, you should try him as well.
Ken

[Capt Kirk]

I found an axle. Thanks to all the Barners who helped me in my quest. Will spend the weekend cleaning the parts and getting it ready to reassemble when the parts arrive.

[V8COOPMAN]

Where did ya find the axle, and does the story behind it give you a warm-'n-fuzzy as to it's "health"? DD

[Capt Kirk]

Coop, I had several responses to my want AD here and they were in a wide variety of conditions. I went with the one that appeared in the best condition. I have some dye penetrant and will check the new and existing axles for cracks. I also have those drum clips here as insurance. Still waiting on my gaskets and seals. I need to devise a seal installer for the seals in the bells. Will work on that tomorrow. I noticed a big blob of "Mississippi Crude" in one of the bells that I'll need to clean out. I got my Vern Tardel's Banjo book the other day...helpful information for someone who has never been into one before. I'm in a holding pattern for now while I wait for all the parts to arrive. Weather seems to be holding for now.

[Capt Kirk]

Got most of the parts cleaned off today. Rainy, blah day today. The parts look like they've got some use but to my eye, they look serviceable. I took some pics but the pics make things look worse than they are. I also took the rear wheel seals and bearings out and the hub races and rollers look good. I read a post where someone used lapping compound on the taper and hub to get things mated. I tried that and it works great! I was given a recommendation from a very knowledgeable person here that I should remove the torque tube and driveline and pinion. I don't particularly want to remove the pinion but am now leaning toward taking off the torque tube and driveline just so I can check if I need to add some more preload to the pinion bearings. Is that driveline pin a single use item or can it be driven out and reused??

[Capt Kirk]

Here's some pics of the clean parts and the taper after lapping. Again, the photos make things look worse than they are.